Is the general Dislike of Anime unwarranted? - General

I stick to manga. And rarely read it. Ruined in part by the internet.

no

[QUOTE=Scientwist;34383337]I'm wondering, what exactly [i]IS[/i] "kawaii~~~" anyway? And don't give me that whole "kawaii desu desu uguu ^_^" crap, that's excessive generalization, I want to know what it really is and how to identify it.[/QUOTE] Kawaii means "cute" in Japanese. How I used it, they're trying to act like the little cute chicks in anime, but end up being annoying as fuck.

[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;34383716]It looks exactly like that in the series[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJl0V7GWRqc[/media] yep, i sure can't spot the difference

I don't necessarily "dislike" anime. I just don't see what all the hype is about.

[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;34383716]It looks exactly like that in the series[/QUOTE] It does not. There are slight similarities, kind of like how Sgt Pepper is similar to Pet Sounds. Similar does not mean appears to be the same. I can say this with absolute certainty because I've seen the series and all of the films associated with it and read all of its manga. There are many subtle nuances about that fan art that separate it completely from the reference material. It's someone's interpretation of it. It's a fact that there are a lot of series with very similar art styles and that it definitely gets repetitive. There's a mountain of 'me-too' shows that all look the same, but that's just not what the show or the movies from the 90's look like and really it's not even that similar to the style of the new movies.

[QUOTE=Dr. Evilcop;34383485]Kawaii means "cute" in Japanese. How I used it, they're trying to act like the little cute chicks in anime, but end up being annoying as fuck.[/QUOTE] I see.... I know a girl similar to such a thing, she almost hits the annoying mark. Shes also one of the few remaining Florida species of "Raver", very weird girl that one.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;34376875] is it just me or do you people get really weird whenever sexuality comes up i mean yeah that ero shit is fucking stupid 99 times out of 100 but it's not like it's any more stupid than Transformers or any of that schlock, and not any more pandering or offensive. it's just pandering to a different audience. fucking ignore it and move on, it's just a show jesus christ.[/QUOTE] Its not getting weird. Its how every anime must have, in any way, someone with huge boobs (usually more than 1 person) and how their clothes somehow are ripped apart. I've watched a few animes and they always end up having something of the sort for no reason other than... who knows who the hell wants thousands of animes filled with teens with huge fucking boobs involved in anything that can and seemingly couldn't get them naked doing anything perverted and stupid stories.

Well then you've been watching the wrong shows because I just got done watching two which both had a girl with big boobs but there was no scene with ripped or minimal clothing

[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;34382668]yeah well you be the judge [img]http://www.figure.fm/cgm/ecommerce/figure/images/large/a426ab7448fbc32c51c1b2bfeeb08069.jpg?1259261033[/img][/QUOTE] I judge that Shinji looks like a badass. Like in the Evangelion remake.

[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;34383716]It looks exactly like that in the series[/QUOTE] What? Shinji and Kaworu look NOTHING like that. And Asuka doesn't look that cutesy either.

She only looks big-breasted because she is wearing a plug suit. They're supposed to be skin-tight. Her breasts don't stand out when she's wearing normal clothes.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;34385742]Well then you've been watching the wrong shows because I just got done watching two which both had a girl with big boobs but there was no scene with ripped or minimal clothing[/QUOTE] Its not every show that has it, its just a fairly ammount of them that have it for no reason at all.

[QUOTE=dass;34389854]Its not every show that has it, its just a fairly ammount of them that have it for no reason at all.[/QUOTE] well then why do you write all these long winded rambling posts about them

The dislike of anime is bullshit. Anime is just Japs interpretation of cartoons. But I can truly understand and support the hatred on weaboo fags. Which can be defined by preffering a perverted cliche of what they believe to be asian-culture and are traitors to their own. Both anime-haters(western cartoon prefering) and weaboos(asian cartoon prefering) are shitheads who have to be stabbed with a good piece of reality. It is just fiction- in general ment for children or teenies. The best way to cure such decadent over-overestimate of childish fiction is to be German, by the way : D For educational porpuse; that my children is the typical weeaboo: [IMG]http://www.forevergeek.com/wp-content/media/2010/02/weeaboo.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Kellerbewohner;34392229]The dislike of anime is bullshit. Anime is just Japs interpretation of cartoons. But I can truly understand and support the hatred on weaboo fags. Which can be defined by preffering a perverted cliche of what they believe to be asian-culture and are traitors to their own. Both anime-haters(western cartoon prefering) and weaboos(asian cartoon prefering) are shitheads who have to be stabbed with a good piece of reality. It is just fiction- in general ment for children or teenies. The best way to cure such decadent over-overestimate of childish fiction is to be German, by the way : D For educational porpuse; that my children is the typical weeaboo: [IMG]http://www.forevergeek.com/wp-content/media/2010/02/weeaboo.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Hardly typical. Most people grow out of it.

[QUOTE]Hardly typical. Most people grow out of it.[/QUOTE] Unproofed statement. By the way the point of interest of me was NOT the age. That doesn't matter to me because all who are in their mid 20s(25 to 30) and still have video-games, cartoons and such stuff as their hobbies [sic!] are men/woman-children in my opinion or just retarded on welfare or just have no work and no friends. I am mainly enraged by all those guys who cling to such "activities"; just 2 decades ago in the 90s anime was mainly gurls stuff, as fiction should be. The only fiction acceptable for males is science-fiction, but not all that fairy-ass-fantasy-bullshit of nowadays. It is just a close step from Harry Potter to Twilight. I guess it must be a result of the over-feminisation through leftist sexual-agenda in western states...

[QUOTE=wraithcat;34361243] Compare Nier - the Western version had a grizzled middle aged former soldier as the protagonist searching for his daughter. While the japanese version had a young pretty boy looking for a sister. Overall to most people this really hurt narrative.[/QUOTE] The original difference was that the 360 version was supposed to have the middle aged man, while the PS3 version had the pretty teen boy. I'm pretty sure this only applied to the Japanese versions, as it was probably a waste of money to translate small lines and have a different voice actor for a PS3 version.

[QUOTE=Kellerbewohner;34392420]I am mainly enraged by all those guys who cling to such "activities"; just 2 decades ago in the 90s anime was mainly gurls stuff, as fiction should be. The only fiction acceptable for males is science-fiction, but not all that fairy-ass-fantasy-bullshit of nowadays. It is just a close step from Harry Potter to Twilight. I guess it must be a result of the over-feminisation through leftist sexual-agenda in western states...[/QUOTE] This is literally just rambling. Men can only like science fiction, males watching anime is the result of a leftist sexual agenda? ...What?

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;34392702]The original difference was that the 360 version was supposed to have the middle aged man, while the PS3 version had the pretty teen boy. I'm pretty sure this only applied to the Japanese versions, as it was probably a waste of money to translate small lines and have a different voice actor for a PS3 version.[/QUOTE] But that's Squeenix, their good sense jumped ship years ago. [editline]25th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Megafanx13;34392724]This is literally just rambling. Men can only like science fiction, males watching anime is the result of a leftist sexual agenda? ...What?[/QUOTE] [img]http://katawa-shoujo.com/res/char/char_kenji.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;34392725] [img]http://katawa-shoujo.com/res/char/char_kenji.png[/img][/QUOTE] Stop thinking what I'm thinking.

It has the same problems as reality tv. 1) It's cheap to produce. 2) It's susceptible to use of cliche stories and cookie cutter characters because of the above fact. That being said not all anime is like this. I have enjoyed a fair many decent story arches which were well thought out and animated. Anime in general just leans to the faults mentioned above.

I do not like how they completely ignore the laws of gravity and such half the time. Not say there are none that do, but I dislike the ones that go from unrealistic to what the fuck am I watching. Especially the ones that are about real events.

[QUOTE=Kellerbewohner;34392229]The dislike of anime is bullshit. Anime is just Japs interpretation of cartoons. But I can truly understand and support the hatred on weaboo fags. Which can be defined by preffering a perverted cliche of what they believe to be asian-culture and are traitors to their own. Both anime-haters(western cartoon prefering) and weaboos(asian cartoon prefering) are shitheads who have to be stabbed with a good piece of reality. It is just fiction- in general ment for children or teenies. The best way to cure such decadent over-overestimate of childish fiction is to be German, by the way : D For educational porpuse; that my children is the typical weeaboo: [IMG]http://www.forevergeek.com/wp-content/media/2010/02/weeaboo.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] No that guy looks to cool to be your average weaboo. I would actually be willing to talk to him.

Anime seems to receive special treatment because it's culturally exotic. It's a medium that's important to a different culture that's found its way elsewhere and has been judged under cultural prejudice. It sucks for trying to expand in certain foreign countries (read: USA), but that's not its fault. I would talk about the cartoon ghetto but I'd be beating a dead horse. The arguments that people make about its content -- indistinguishable art style and plot -- could be applied to any other area, like film. Common ideas of aesthetic style and common plot elements are called genres, and genres are pervasive through all forms of entertainment. The hardcore anime fan is fundamentally identical to hardcore movie buffs or bookworms, but the stereotype is that they're obnoxious weaboos. I think the agenda for hating anime comes from hating the stereotypical fan. Prejudice not entirely in the sense of being unfamiliar, but sticking to a faulty opinion in spite of learning new information. Hating a few annoying people shouldn't poison the well for you. I hate with a fiery passion douchey film critics who cast aside Inception 'because an art house flick did it first', but they don't ruin movies for me as a whole. In my eyes it's just another medium so it should be regarded as such. I don't think people should write it off entirely without exploring it a little -- if the entertainment doesn't entertain you, what have you lost from trying? What I'm trying to say is yes; the general dislike of anime is unwarranted. [B]Edit: [/B]Also Sailor Bubba is a special case.

not to mention anime has some badass music [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZoAOkRYJ0M[/media]

I'm probably going to get my head chewed off for this, but I'm a big fan of Naruto Shippuden. Yeah yeah, I know, "HURR DURR BELIEVE IT PLOT NO JUTSU FLASHBACKS ERRYWHERE". As ridiculous as an anime/manga it can be, it was one of the first ones I really got into when I was younger. All of the dialogue and lack of fighting can be annoying sometimes, but it can be worth it when you finally get to see some action. I'm not some crazy kawaii desu~~~ weaboo for watching a ridiculous anime, I'm still a regular guy. So yes, a lot of the dislike is unwarranted. Some of it is justified, even I find stuff like Lucky Star annoying and stupid, but a lot of the hatred isn't necessary.

I think a big problem with anime is the impenetrable Japanese-yness of it. Created by Japanese for Japanese, it's the exception when something can resonate with the West. This is compounded by recent anime catering to very specific niches - who will consistently pay good money for something they may have seen many times before. If you don't like an anime then it's probably not intended for you. If you like when you're not the intended audince, more power to ya. Of course, the often poor animation and writing - largely due to constrained budgets and historically getting away with it - may put people off.

American TV is too stable, Anime breaks boundary's and actually have good stories.

Personally, I just dislike the drawing and general style of animes/mangas. I just don't dig the style in which characters are presented. Except for a few mangas that I found quite good. But I often associate Mangas/Animes with stupid memeshit and other fucked up pictures, which is a fault from my part. Besides I do not like the plots, although some are bloody brilliant. But there are many stupid ones.