Chivalry in the 21st Century - Relevant or Archaic?
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[QUOTE=Symmetry;18638205]None of us have implied that we're unflawed. What we're trying to say is that there's nothing flawed about being polite, and that these self-righteous feminist types have no right to feel offended by some mild every day "chivalry".
I admit that I did generalise women in my post, but it's pretty well implied by the thread that I'm only generalising a certain type of woman.[/QUOTE]
What I'm trying to say is, you don't really know what you are talking about.
[QUOTE=thisispain;18638195]I go by what I see. Having Mark Twain in your avatar though makes me believe you are a bit smarter than that.[/QUOTE]
What I meant was that the people the post above mine talks about(scrupulous feminists) think men are either insensitive or sexist.
Assuming ofcourse that he isn't generalising...
[QUOTE=Virtanen;18638236]What I meant was that the people the post above mine talks about(scrupulous feminists) think men are either insensitive or sexist.
Assuming ofcourse that he isn't generalising...[/QUOTE]
Which is why they go out with men obviously.
It's the idea of it all, some people are different and view things different. Unless you have a giant sign above you citing your attentions, it's impossible to know what someone thinks.
It's like if someone said to a black person standing in line "Is the chicken good here?", however ridiculous of a question it is, that black dude has to think to himself and ask "Racist joke? Or simple question?"
People in this thread however way overextend their knowledge of humans or even the female sex in general which is what makes it so funny to read and so funny to take the piss out of.
My grandfather was pretty big on chivalry, and he speaks with enough conviction for him to garner one's respect.
I'm chivalrous because it's fun. It's fun to overdo it and watch people laugh. It gets pretty entertaining. The older teachers really appreciate it, too.
[QUOTE=Ickylevel;18638162]Let me laught. Chivalry is about ridding a horse on the battlefield.[/QUOTE]
No it isn't, although the word is derived from Chevalrie which comes from chevalier, meaning knight.
Though if someone were to complain about me being chivalrous to them (read: mostly plain politeness) I'd tell them to fuck off.
Then again, I won't pick up the full tab, just split it equally even if i didn't eat or drink as much as I'd pay for.
It's also simple courteousness that if you reach a door first and there's someone behind you or close to you also going through the same door to just simply hold it open for them.
OP Is such a badass.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18632240]
Let's use dating as an example. When I take a woman out on a date, I help her out of the car, I hold doors open for her, and I insist on picking up the tab at the end of the night. I was recently surprised to discover that a small percentage of women actually find this sort of behavior offensive.
In hindsight, that particular incident may have had something to do with the fact that the lady I'd been dining was one of those radical feminists.
I thought I'd make a post about it on FP and see what people who had been raised from birth in Western countries thought of chivalry.[/QUOTE]
More than that, most women these days find that the opposite of sexually attractive.
I'd have to say I'm a very chilavrous. I was always raised to be respectful towards women. When you see kids these days (10, 11, 12. That sort of age), and they have no respect for not only women, but anyone in general, it really makes me wonder just how much things have changed in a decade, when I was that age.
Hm, this thread makes me want to play Age of Chivalry again.
Living in Alabama teaches you some things; if you don't hold open the door for any elderly ladies you get some pretty dirty looks (from personal experience).
[QUOTE=archangel125;18632240]For those unfamiliar with the word, Chivalry was originally the name for the gentlemanly code of conduct observed by knights in medieval times. Today, it instead refers to small acts of respect by men toward women.
The postmodern human being is raised from a young age to understand that men and women are equal in all ways, and that the ideas of traditional gender roles are outdated and bigoted. While I agree completely with this philosophy, I often still find myself, as a male, acting in accordance with my upbringing. I'm Indian by birth, and I was raised in the Middle East. My family is Catholic (Though I am not) and they're still quite traditional in many ways. I was not taught that being a male gave me any extra rights. On the contrary, I was raised to take on additional responsibility and to be strong both physically and emotionally. This strength, my father said, was never to be used for personal gain, but instead to protect and provide for those who needed it.
I've been in Canada for six years now, and I've developed the larger part of my identity and worldview here. I suffer under no bigoted delusions (Or so I like to think) and I have always seen women as equals. Do not get me wrong.
Let's use dating as an example. When I take a woman out on a date, I help her out of the car, I hold doors open for her, and I insist on picking up the tab at the end of the night. I was recently surprised to discover that a small percentage of women actually find this sort of behavior offensive.
In hindsight, that particular incident may have had something to do with the fact that the lady I'd been dining was one of those radical feminists.
I thought I'd make a post about it on FP and see what people who had been raised from birth in Western countries thought of chivalry.[/QUOTE]
Women that find chivalry offensive are uber-feminists and need to be sent to a mental hospital.
I just call it common courtesy.
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