Why not to send people to labour camps instead of executing them? - General

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571707]Who cares what some dumb men did a long time ago?[/QUOTE] Again, you don't do much thinking.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571707]Who cares what some dumb men did a long time ago?[/QUOTE] so i guess we should throw out our constitution huh. [editline]04:44PM[/editline] [QUOTE=yuki;24571694]Your point? We had this neat thing called the "Civil War" over the concept of slavery. We concluded it was unjust and outlawed it after beating the shit out of the southern states. You can't force someone to work, it's simply not ethically correct.[/QUOTE] civil war wasn't about slavery but i get your point.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571707]Who cares what some dumb men did a long time ago?[/QUOTE] OP is 12. On another note, Slavery is wrong and outlawed across the globe. And like I said before; if you killed my family, I'm watching you fry.

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24571734] civil war wasn't about slavery but i get your point.[/QUOTE] No, but the split was between the south, who supported slavery, and the north, who opposed it.

The 13th amendment actually allows forced penal labor, labor camps are messed up though. Fun fact: slavery isn't illegal provided it's as punishment for a crime. I personally don't think it's right unless you voluntarily chose between hard labor and a longer period of incarceration. It's also used in the military: [url]http://www.military.com/news/article/malingerer-gets-90-days-hard-labor.html[/url]

[QUOTE=yuki;24571733]Again, you don't do much thinking.[/QUOTE] I don't obey retarded founding fathers, so I MUST BE DUMB! Oh no! If I try to challenge the established rules I'm a sick and crazy person! Please cure me!

[QUOTE=yuki;24571763]No, but the split was between the south, who supported slavery, and the north, who opposed it.[/QUOTE] The Civil War was about the tariff taxes, not slavery.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571771]I don't obey retarded founding fathers[/QUOTE] There is a reason that we are still following their ideas today... They obviously weren't retarded.

[QUOTE=L'ordinateur;24571802]There is a reason that we are still following their ideas today... They obviously weren't retarded.[/QUOTE] Because a large portion of people is retarded and can't think for themselves.

[QUOTE=Grahamcracker;24571784]The Civil War was about the tariff taxes, not slavery.[/QUOTE] That's the revolutionary war. [QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571771]I don't obey retarded founding fathers, so I MUST BE DUMB! Oh no! If I try to allenge the established rules I'm a sick and crazy person! Please cure me![/QUOTE] Yeah, you're like 11.

[QUOTE=Grahamcracker;24571784]The Civil War was about the tariff taxes, not slavery.[/QUOTE] To the North it was about state's right to secede or not. To the South, it was about state's rights to own slaves. Do you think it's a coincidence that the South seceded right after the abolitionist party came into power?

[QUOTE=Grahamcracker;24571753]OP is 12. On another note, Slavery is wrong and outlawed across the globe. And like I said before; if you killed my family, I'm watching you fry.[/QUOTE] No I'm not. I'm obviously young if I try to challenge authority. :downs:

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571808]Because the people are retarded and can't think for themselves.[/QUOTE] Because America isn't a powerful, if not the most powerful, country in the world today.. because of them.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571808]Because a large portion of people is retarded and can't think for themselves.[/QUOTE] You are clearly one of them. You sound like an aspie with a superiority complex. Let me guess you should be the supreme dictator :downs: Maybe if you had friends you would realize everyone isn't more retarded than you are.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571883]No I'm not. I'm obviously young if I try to challenge authority. :downs:[/QUOTE] You're not challenging authority, you're trolling around trying to argue a viewpoint that is comprised of arrogance and ignorance.

[QUOTE=L'ordinateur;24571884]Because America isn't a powerful, if not the most powerful, country in the world today.. because of them.[/QUOTE] So? They were wrong in many things, so it needs correcting and should not be conservated. [editline]08:52PM[/editline] [QUOTE=yuki;24571902]You're not challenging authority, you're trolling around trying to argue a viewpoint that is comprised of arrogance and ignorance.[/QUOTE] How exactly? [editline]08:53PM[/editline] [QUOTE=RBM11;24571897]You are clearly one of them. You sound like an aspie with a superiority complex. Let me guess you should be the supreme dictator :downs: Maybe if you had friends you would realize everyone isn't more retarded than you are.[/QUOTE] How exactly?

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571919]So? They were wrong in many things, so it needs correcting and should not be conservated.[/QUOTE] Give me examples.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571919] How exactly?[/QUOTE] Firstoff, you're ignoring history, important events that have defined the timeline we live in and has set precedents that helped to build and improve the society we live in today. If everyone thought like you and ignored the hundreds and thousands of years of history, we'd still be in the fucking stone age. That's like grabbing an electrical wire, getting shocked, then doing it again every 5 minutes because you obviously haven't learned that you shouldn't grab the goddamned wire.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571919]So? They were wrong in many things, so it needs correcting and should not be conservated. [editline]08:52PM[/editline] How exactly? [editline]08:53PM[/editline] How exactly?[/QUOTE] Well first of all you said most people are retarded right after making an extremely retarded statement about the founding fathers and history in general. Also, the fact you called yourself "Free Thinker" when you clearly didn't "think" about the importance of history obviously alludes to your massive ego.

[QUOTE=yuki;24571986]Firstoff, you're ignoring history, important events that have defined the timeline we live in and has set precedents that helped to build and improve the society we live in today. If everyone thought like you and ignored the hundreds and thousands of years of history, we'd still be in the fucking stone age.[/QUOTE] I'm not ignoring these events, I just think that some of what the founding fathers said is stupid.

OP just wants people to be slaves again.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24572013]I'm not ignoring these events, I just think that some of what the founding fathers said is stupid.[/QUOTE] Provide examples, cite quotations. Do something other than sling shit and yell "DATS STOOPID", at least [i]try[/i] to create an argument.

[QUOTE=RBM11;24571992]Well first of all you said most people are retarded right after making an extremely retarded statement about the founding fathers and history in general. Also, the fact you called yourself "Free Thinker" when you clearly didn't "think" about the importance of history obviously alludes to your massive ego.[/QUOTE] I think some of what the founding fathers said is wrong. The rules need to be updated and not conserved.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24572013]I'm not ignoring these events, I just think that some of what the founding fathers said is stupid.[/QUOTE] You literally called them retarded and said you didn't care what "some dumb old men did a long time ago." [editline]04:58PM[/editline] [QUOTE=FreeThinker;24572050]I think some of what the founding fathers said is wrong. The rules need to be updated and not conserved.[/QUOTE] You haven't given any examples yet.

[QUOTE=RBM11;24572057] You haven't given any examples yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RBM11;24572057]You haven't given any examples yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571274]Why not to send people to labour camps instead of executing them? If they were sent to labour camps, they would do a lot of benefit to the society. Labour would make enough profit to cover the cost of labour camps and produce additional profit. Death penalty seems dumb and irrational to me. INB4: Forced labour is worse than forced execution because the retarded founding fathers said so.[/QUOTE] I think the same sort of thing too, not just with death penalty prisoners, I think they should be forced to work in line production factorys making Cars, electronics and all sorts of other stuff. I think this would benefit society more instead of letting people go insane in jail, I also think that undiscovered talent "could" be found. Like a guy that stole and burnt down a car, is forced to build car parts on an assembley line and realises that he enjoys what he is doing, He quits the life of crime and sets up a famous car building firm 40 years later. *Don't Knock it, anything is possible*

So they can escape and kill 22 more babies?

Their opinions on the death penalty are plain retarded.

[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24572119]Their opinions on the death penalty are plain retarded.[/QUOTE] You're still not citing, more information pulled out of your ass is not an argument.