Why not to send people to labour camps instead of executing them?
172 replies, posted
It isn't as simple as "Oh just put them in a labour camp and they will pay fro themselves", there are too many other factors. You have to build the camp, employ people to keep the workers under control, employ people to keep the people who keep the workers under control under control, transport costs, food, water, training (for the employees), equipment to name but a few.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;24632692]kill senior citizens because they are nothing but a detriment to society.
[B]But they paid for their treatment.[/B]
seriously, you're going to kill people because they don't contribute to society? what the fuck is wrong with you?
[B]No, just someone who is a serious detriment.[/B]
and? they have rights too. isn't the government taking away THEIR right to live? welcome to the paradox of the death penalty.
[B]I think it's an issue of morality here[/B]
lol that's not how rights work.
[B]Uhhh, I'd check up on laws in the US again.[/B]
[/QUOTE]
In essence a lot of prisons are labour camps, in the US 100% of helmets and body armours used by the military are produced by inmates and I forget the exact number but there's something like 60% of licence plates too.
Zombiefreak is Hitler.
:godwin::godwin::godwin:
:godwin::godwin::godwin:
:godwin::godwin::godwin:
all up in here
[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24571336]Actually, it would be profitable. You seem pretty dull to me.[/QUOTE]
He's a french calculator what do you expect
We are not monsters.
/thread
[QUOTE=RacistRace;24641146]We are not monsters.
/thread[/QUOTE]
But child molesters are. So they should be sentenced to eternal labor.
It's concentration camps all over again.
In the news: Oh my god! Horrible murderer should die a slow painful death!
General Discussion: Killing people is wrong! No one deserves to die!
Slavery seems pretty dumb and irrational to me.
[QUOTE=GoldenGnome;24658508]Slavery seems pretty dumb and irrational to me.[/QUOTE]
Anyone who thinks otherwise of this is either a psychopath, a child, or a very ignorant person.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;24658599]Anyone who thinks otherwise of this is either a psychopath, a child, or a very ignorant person.[/QUOTE]
I'm the first one, and the third. Slavery is awesome--Oh you mean like...OHHHHHH....*puts his whips and chains away and shooes off the drunk 20-year-old with self-image problems*.
I think this whole "work instead of death thing" has been done before...have you ever heard of this really cool prison called Auschwitz?
OP is a retarded and prepubescent Hitler that will never amount to anything that Hitler did.
[QUOTE=TamTamJam;24659037]OP is a retarded and prepubescent Hitler that will never amount to anything that Hitler did.[/QUOTE]
never trust art students.
To the people saying that the benefit of labour would not outway the cost of labour, how on earth can someone live off the land then? If one person cannot gather enough resources to keep themselves alive, how do we exist as a race?
[QUOTE=flyboy95;24659097]To the people saying that the benefit of labour would not outway the cost of labour, how on earth can someone live off the land then? If one person cannot gather enough resources to keep themselves alive, how do we exist as a race?[/QUOTE]
death row people are lazy?
[QUOTE=TamTamJam;24659037]OP is a retarded and prepubescent Hitler that will never amount to anything that Hitler did.[/QUOTE]
Throwing baseless assumptions? Nice
[editline]06:07AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;24658599]Anyone who thinks otherwise of this is either a psychopath, a child, or a very ignorant person.[/QUOTE]
You're so funny, you made your post ironic. Don't you know that enslaving people who are supposed to be executed would make far more benefit to the society?
[editline]06:13AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Callius;24614411]Fordced labour wouldn't work in the modern world because if a criminal knows he's going to spend all of enternity working in a labour camp then he won't bother, he'll be sloppy and make whatever they're producing in poor quality, meaning you waste the resources used to build and those used to clothe, feed and house the criminal.
I mean what punishment can you offer to a life sentance convict to promote them to work well?[/QUOTE]
Then he will get an electric shock and be forced to work.
You probably think this idea is 'insane' because slavery was rejected by the society. But it could still be used with benefit and be more humane in some cases.
Many prisons already have voluntary labor programs that allow inmates to work outside the prison walls under guard, doing community services such as litter pickup, recycling operations, and even some manufacturing and construction jobs. I fully support voluntary labor programs, and many prisoners would even jump on an opportunity to go work somewhere if for no other reason than to get off of prison grounds for a while-- to feel normal again.
However, forcing a man into hard labor without benefit strips him of the very things that make him a human, and that is simply not acceptable. Though a murderer may be a wretched and dangerous man, nobody deserves to have his rights and his humanity stripped out from under him. The question of whether or not capital punishment is morally acceptable has been hotly debated for much longer than you or I were even capable of voicing an opinion, but the issue of slavery, and where humanity as a whole should stand on the subject, has been dusty for generations, and for good reason. No man, regardless of circumstance, deserves to be made a slave. People may lock a man up to protect the rest of the world, and some would even argue that you can kill him for that same purpose, but dehumanizing another person is something that no conscionable man should even consider.
[QUOTE=OvB;24571503]I'm waiting for Zeke, JDK, and pain to show up in this thread. Then it will get good.[/QUOTE]
all annoying dicks
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;24661030]smart shit[/QUOTE]
Holy fuck. The big dumb american--literally--actually was the smart one. What is this, 1950?
"Why not throw prisoners into an arena and let them fight to death on TV?"
It just don't work with society. Labour camps are gonna be escaped from, its gonna be too expensive. Its basically slavery. And that doesnt work with mankind anymore, just like gladiator figths and public executions.
Isn't this what the Nazis did?
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.