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[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29328852]Interesting bit of information: the first treaty between the United States Government and an alien race was conceived in the late 1950's. It's terms were simple: in exchange for technological advancement, we allowed them to abduct individuals on the basis that every human abducted was reported to the government and returned unharmed with their memory erased. Let's just say that in hindsight, it wasn't a good idea to think they were trustworthy. I'm just gonna leave it at that.[/QUOTE] That's interesting. The memory erasing was most likely something that the government wanted the E.T. to do; they definately wouldn't want a bunch of people roaming around saying "THE ALIENS ARE HERE! THE ALIENS ARE HERE! RUN!" Especially [b]if[/b] they wanted to keep it as a secret.

[QUOTE=deadoctober;29328845]Grey "aliens" that seem robotic in movement and manners, Taller aliens which seem to be above in the ranks, If you will. Experimentation. Extraction of semen (lol). Robotic buzzing noise, A lot of other things too, I can't really name them all.[/QUOTE] These are really stereotypical of aliens, ask an average person what an alien looks like and they'll probably tell you little grey men. These stereotypes are everywhere, it's makes sense that alien encounters would be described as such.

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;29328905]These are really stereotypical of aliens, ask an average person what an alien looks like and they'll probably tell you little grey men. These stereotypes are everywhere, it's makes sense that alien encounters would be described as such.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I bet these people were dreaming or making it up based on the media's image of aliens. Also there are so many cases of "abduction" that a few of them are bound to line up in some way. Also I seriously doubt that the aliens that are out there are anything even close to humanoid. They probably don't have DNA, they probably don't reproduce sexually, etc.

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;29328905]These are really stereotypical of aliens, ask an average person what an alien looks like and they'll probably tell you little grey men. These stereotypes are everywhere, it's makes sense that alien encounters would be described as such.[/QUOTE] I thought the stereotype was little green men, but whatever, I suggest you look at mufon case files, they're really interesting. [url]http://www.mufon.com/mufonreports.html[/url] Search for Entity reports.

Why do people speculate things such as this. They automatically assume that aliens are either going to be; A. Like War of the Worlds B. Little grey men in ufos C. Green men in ships like the Jetsons For all we know, aliens could look just like humans; or dogs for that matter...

[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;29328934]Yeah, I bet these people were dreaming or making it up based on the media's image of aliens. Also there are so many cases of "abduction" that a few of them are bound to line up in some way. Also I seriously doubt that the aliens that are out there are anything even close to humanoid. They probably don't have DNA, they probably don't reproduce sexually, etc.[/QUOTE] Maybe the abductions aren't even aliens? Maybe they're something, even stranger, something we have no concept of.

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;29328905]These really stereotypical of aliens, ask an average person what an alien looks like and they'll probably tell you little grey men. These stereotypes are everywhere, it's makes sense that alien encounters would be described as such.[/QUOTE] The purpose of the media stereotype of aliens being this way is because, quite frankly, the government has known they are for a fact. The crash that resulted in Roswell was one of many, one such incident akin to what happened in New Mexico occurred in Nevada. When they arrived they found an alien that was still alive. They referred to it as EBE. Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. It gathered energy and excreted waste similarly to plants. They kept it with them for about 2 years, until it became ill and a botanist was called for to treat EBE. He ended up dying, but before he did he divulged information to the government that was startling to say the least.

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29328965]The purpose of the media stereotype of aliens being this way is because, quite frankly, the government has known they are for a fact. The crash that resulted in Roswell was one of many, one such incident akin to the what happened in New Mexico occurred in Nevada. When they arrived they found an alien that was still alive. They referred to it as EBE. Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. It gathered energy and excreted waste similarly to plants. They kept it with them for about 2 years, until it became ill and a botanist was called for to treat EBE. He ended up dying, but before he did he divulged information to the government that was startling to say the least.[/QUOTE] I heard that EBE story was complete bullshit.

[QUOTE=deadoctober;29328991]I heard that EBE story was complete bullshit.[/QUOTE] As did I. But then again, the government could even keep shit from the President... Any more conspiracies and or unusual/suspicious events? We need to make an official thread for this in GD.

[QUOTE=latem5;29329010]As did I. But then again, the government could even keep shit from the President... Any more conspiracies and or unusual/suspicious events? We need to make an official thread for this in GD.[/QUOTE] Search up Dulce base, Shit is insane.

[QUOTE=deadoctober;29328991]I heard that EBE story was complete bullshit.[/QUOTE] That's called disinformation. Most if not all government projects are accompanied by disinformation to act as a buffer in the event people did find out things. Some of these disinformation projects were Project Blue Book, Majestic Twelve, and many more. Don't believe everything you're told unless you're certain the source is valid.

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29329038]That's called disinformation. Most if not all government projects are accompanied by disinformation to act as a buffer in the event people did find out things. Some of these disinformation projects were Project Blue Book, Majestic Twelve, and many more. Don't believe everything you're told unless you're certain the source is valid.[/QUOTE] No offense, but it seems like you believe anything is thrown to you, If it involves "government coverups" and "conspiracies"

[QUOTE=deadoctober;29329032]Search up Dulce base, Shit is insane.[/QUOTE] The Dulce base was the inspiration behind the Black Mesa lore. Black refers to the the secrecy surrounding the projects taking place. Mesa refers to the Archuleta Mesa near Dulce where supposedly the base is buried beneath. [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=deadoctober;29329061]No offense, but you seem like you'll believe anything that has the word "government" and "alien" in it.[/QUOTE] Only after I've checked it's validity as being truth. If it isn't or I find out later it isn't I move on to find more, new, factual information.

The light in norway is fake itself, ufo or not, it was never in any news here.

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29329070]The Dulce base was the inspiration behind the Black Mesa lore. Black refers to the the secrecy surrounding the projects taking place. Mesa refers to the Archuleta Mesa near Dulce where supposedly the base is buried beneath. [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] Only after I've checked it's validity as being truth. If it isn't or I find out later it isn't I move on to find more, new, factual information.[/QUOTE] Haha no, [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mesa,_Arizona[/url] And how can you valididate things such as "ebe's" and stuff? you're blindly believing any shit throw at you.

[QUOTE=ShukaidoX;29328965]The purpose of the media stereotype of aliens being this way is because, quite frankly, the government has known they are for a fact. The crash that resulted in Roswell was one of many, one such incident akin to what happened in New Mexico occurred in Nevada. When they arrived they found an alien that was still alive. They referred to it as EBE. Extraterrestrial Biological Entity. It gathered energy and excreted waste similarly to plants. They kept it with them for about 2 years, until it became ill and a botanist was called for to treat EBE. He ended up dying, but before he did he divulged information to the government that was startling to say the least.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but I see a large amount of flaws in this story. 1. I find it unlikely that the aliens home planet has the gravity as Earth, unlikely he would survive. 2. You also say he absorbs energy like plants, meaning from the sun. What if the sun that his planet was rotating around gave out 100x the energy our sun does, and that was the amount he was used to. 3. How did he communicate with humans? What if he doesn't even have eyes or a mouth, he communicates through some other means? I can go on but the story is so vague that it's impossible to prove or disprove.

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;29329106]I'm sorry but I see a large amount of flaws in this story. 1. I find it unlikely that the aliens home planet has the gravity as Earth, unlikely he would survive. 2. You also say he absorbs energy like plants, meaning from the sun. What if the sun that his planet was rotating around gave out 100x the energy our sun does, and that was the amount he was used to. 3. How did he communicate with humans? What if he doesn't even have eyes or a mouth, he communicates through some other means? I can go on but the story is so vague that it's impossible to prove or disprove.[/QUOTE] I've looked into the story before, I think he communicated by transmitting information from his mind to the person he wanted to communicate with, like some kind of psy powers. The story is pretty bullshit, there's a lot of ridiculous and stupid claims in the story. (not because of the psy stuff, that's reported in abductions a lot)

Not to mention what if a ufo, say crashed in some other country. Are all the worlds governments plotting together to hide this from the normal person? I find that very unlikely, world governments can barely work with each other on much simpler tasks then hiding a worldwide conspiracy.

[QUOTE=archangel125;29328447]Or that they're planning a strike, for the sake of resources. I think the former is more likely than the latter.[/QUOTE] They wouldn't plan. If they have developed the technology to enable them to create artificial wormholes and travel through the galaxy as fast as they do. They wouldn't even need to try to kill us, it would be like nuclear weapons vs. sponges.

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;29329144]Not to mention what if a ufo, say crashed in some other country. Are all the worlds governments plotting together to hide this from the normal person? I find that very unlikely, world governments can barely work with each other on much simpler tasks then hiding a worldwide conspiracy.[/QUOTE] Why do you think the governments would plot together? It's possible they don't want the other nations knowing they have this kind of technology, maybe they're keeping it for profit?

I've saw the radio show continued, the dude called back about a month later saying that he did this to radio shows all the time, and the radio line just got cut off because of a coincidence, or he was actually saying stuff that was true. I'll find the video hold on... [editline]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuiuxty1qyU[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuiuxty1qyU[/media]

[QUOTE=deadoctober;29329166]Why do you think the governments are plotting together?[/QUOTE] Lets say a ufo crash landed, the country it crash landed in decides to tell the public about it. With the frequency of ufo sightings, abductions and so on this could happen. So why hasn't it?

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;29329205]Lets say a ufo crash landed, the country it crash landed in decides to tell the public about it. With the frequency of ufo sightings, abductions and so on this could happen. So why hasn't it?[/QUOTE] Maybe UFO's don't crash, I mean our planes RARELY crash, Imagine a race a few thousand years ahead of us, Not to mention, they would probably want to keep the technology for themselves, keep it down low.

[QUOTE=deadoctober;29329166]Why do you think the governments would plot together? It's possible they don't want the other nations knowing they have this kind of technology, maybe they're keeping it for profit?[/QUOTE] I can see keeping the technology private for an advantage, but when asked about a crash why do they outright deny it? Why can't they just say, "Yep that was an alien spacecraft".

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;29329235]I can see keeping the technology private for an advantage, but when asked about a crash why do they outright deny it? Why can't they just say, "Yep that was an alien spacecraft".[/QUOTE] Do you know what kind of psychological and social effects that kind of statement would have? The world would fucking stop, the stock market would plummet.

[QUOTE=deadoctober;29329234]Maybe UFO's don't crash, I mean our planes RARELY crash, Imagine a race a few thousand years ahead of us, Not to mention, they would probably want to keep the technology for themselves, keep it down low.[/QUOTE] Well my original point was arguing against hiding crashes, so if they don't crash that makes my argument void. [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=deadoctober;29329252]Do you know what kind of psychological and social effects that kind of statement would have? The world would fucking stop, the stock market would plummet.[/QUOTE] Why? Is it going to be hidden from us until the human race is extinct? If we are being visited by extraterrestrials now it's only a matter of time until their presence is known.

Dude this is really weird, I was on facebook and someone was like I literly just saw a UFO and her boyfriend was with her posting the same thing, come to facepunch and first topic I see to the right hand side UFO's.

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;29329266]Well my original point was arguing against hiding crashes, so if they don't crash that makes my argument void. [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] Why? Is it going to be hidden from us until the human race is extinct? If we are being visited by extraterrestrials now it's only a matter of time until their presence is known.[/QUOTE] I'm not entirely sure what you're saying?

[QUOTE=deadoctober;29329301]I'm not entirely sure what you're saying?[/QUOTE] Which part? :v: My first point was: if ufo's don't crash then the crashes cant be covered up. My second point was: If we are being visited by extraterrestrials now, it's only a matter of time until the public finds out about it.

[QUOTE=Yumyumbublegum;29329333]Which part? :v: My first point was: if ufo's don't crash then the crashes cant be covered up. My second point was: If we are being visited by extraterrestrials now, it's only a matter of time until the public finds out about it.[/QUOTE] Well obviously, but they're trying to deter it, the world would change, It's not something to take lightly.