Attention newbies, this is the Official "is this a good idea?" thread
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KWA is good but I've heard of compatibility issues with other guns (even their M4's). So you might want to go with G&G, but I'm a hardcore G&G fanboy so I'm a bit biased.
[QUOTE=xXEnder007Xx;19622424]Might be a better way to go, as it's already setup to take M4 mags. Mag placement looks about the same.
Now try to figure out how much the stock will cost you, then all the machining you will need to do it to make the gearbox fit. Not only that but now you got to fit a outer barrel and hop-up into the gun too. I doubt you would use a real steel outer barrel and ream it out just to fit an airsoft inner barrel in it.
I mean there are so many issues to worry about, it's not worth the time unless you're an engineer or machinist with a lot of experience. I know I wouldn't take up a task like this. If I was to build it, I'd take specs of the real one and model it out first, then see how everything would fit together and what parts would need to be made to make it work.[/QUOTE]
Took twenty people in sweden to design a real steal PKM around the a&k m249 and it still sucked, I just hope kawaii's VSS comes out ok.
[QUOTE=CubeManv2;19630548]any KWA gun is great.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stupideye;19631623]KWA is good but I've heard of compatibility issues with other guns (even their M4's). So you might want to go with G&G, but I'm a hardcore G&G fanboy so I'm a bit biased.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for posts guys.
Thinking now what gun should be first in my hands - AKM or M4 S-SYSTEM. Maybe you guys can help me to decide? Which gun feels better in hands, which gun is better for aiming (iron sights), etc, etc? :)
EDIT: Please write some more responses to KWA M4 S-SYSTEM 2010 version.
Not sure if it is the same but my friend got an Echo 1 Stag Arms M4. It feels great. It is really thin and not as heavy as you would expect. At first he had hopup problems but he eventually fixed it aftger like a day or two. The thing is super accurate. I don't know the exact distance but the yard we were playing in was about 1 acre squared. I was at one end and he was at the other and they still were accurate and still hurt, while my g36 wouldnt reach him.
[url]http://www.trinityairsoft.com/p-628-echo-1-stag-arms-m4-a1-carbine-abs-aeg-airsoft-gun.aspx[/url]
I think that is the gun.
AK's are nice :jihad:
Either way they are the same for parts and such. Parts cost the same, mags will cost the same. They are both really common guns so its personal choice. I think as a first gun I would get a M4A1 though. Even better though is a TM FAMAS :v:
[QUOTE=Stupideye;19634205]AK's are nice :jihad:
Either way they are the same for parts and such. Parts cost the same, mags will cost the same. They are both really common guns so its personal choice. I think as a first gun I would get a M4A1 though. Even better though is a TM FAMAS :v:[/QUOTE]
Too bad that's not an ak the emote is using :v:
[QUOTE=Nick99;19634245]Too bad that's not an ak the emote is using :v:[/QUOTE]
:damn:
But seriously the M4 my friend has is REALLY nice. The only downside is he got ripped off majorly because our local airsoft shopowner is an asshole. My friend put down $50 to save the gun, then when he came in, he bought it but he wouldnt give him the $50 back.
That is probably illegal.
Better Business Bureau. Raise some shit with that place.
Sounds like there's somethin off.
He didn't though. One reason being it is the only airsoft store within miles. And it was partially his fault, but still the guy is an ass hole. I still buy from him because he treats me good however. Maybe 10 or 15 bucks tagged on to the price of guns.
Also forgot to mention he's the local mob boss.
( just kidding lol )
You could always ask the other mafia's don on the day of his daughter's wedding to get rid of him.
he can't refuse a wish on the day of his daughter's wedding.
[QUOTE=Nick99;19634181]Not sure if it is the same but my friend got an Echo 1 Stag Arms M4. It feels great. It is really thin and not as heavy as you would expect. At first he had hopup problems but he eventually fixed it aftger like a day or two. The thing is super accurate. I don't know the exact distance but the yard we were playing in was about 1 acre squared. I was at one end and he was at the other and they still were accurate and still hurt, while my g36 wouldnt reach him.
[url]http://www.trinityairsoft.com/p-628-echo-1-stag-arms-m4-a1-carbine-abs-aeg-airsoft-gun.aspx[/url]
I think that is the gun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stupideye;19634205]AK's are nice :jihad:
Either way they are the same for parts and such. Parts cost the same, mags will cost the same. They are both really common guns so its personal choice. I think as a first gun I would get a M4A1 though. Even better though is a TM FAMAS :v:[/QUOTE]
Thanks for posts ;)
Decided to get AK first, not M4.
Please everyone post me good AKM and AK-47 airsoft replicas.
Just like i said before, i want full steel, full wood construction, regular non-folding stock, metal gearbox. Also im not really big fan of cheap chinese guns, maybe you guys can recommend something better than CYMA, JG and etc cheap chinese manufacturers?
[QUOTE=Domis;19641513]Thanks for posts ;)
Decided to get AK first, not M4.
Please everyone post me good AKM and AK-47 airsoft replicas.
Just like i said before, i want full steel, full wood construction, regular non-folding stock, metal gearbox. Also im not really big fan of cheap chinese guns, maybe you guys can recommend something better than CYMA, JG and etc cheap chinese manufacturers?[/QUOTE]
Whats your price range?
[QUOTE=Timebomb757;19643301]Whats your price range?[/QUOTE]
600$, maybe a little bit more.
[QUOTE=Domis;19643839]600$, maybe a little bit more.[/QUOTE]
Save some of this for gear, and a smart charger.
[url]http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_107&products_id=2680[/url]
that AK looks like shit
[url]http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_206&products_id=5561[/url]
^ Cyma has the best looking 74 out now not steel though.
Dboy has steel but you gotta order overseas
You can put a russian loadout with the rest of the money
[QUOTE=DarkSamus;19644126]Save some of this for gear, and a smart charger.
[url]http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_107&products_id=2680[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for post, i'll think about that gun.
[QUOTE=TyreSucksDick;19645273]that AK looks like shit
[url]http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_206&products_id=5561[/url]
^ Cyma has the best looking 74 out now not steel though.
Dboy has steel but you gotta order overseas
You can put a russian loadout with the rest of the money[/QUOTE]
Thanks for you too. That CYMA AK-74 is hot, but is it really good? I've heard that cheap chinese guns break really fast, but other thing - is that truth? Damn, i didnt know that searching for an airsoft gun is that hard...
P.S. Please give me URL's of salespeople sites, that ship to Europe :)
[QUOTE=Domis;19646369]Thanks for post, i'll think about that gun.
Thanks for you too. That CYMA AK-74 is hot, but is it really good? I've heard that cheap chinese guns break really fast, but other thing - is that truth? Damn, i didnt know that searching for an airsoft gun is that hard...
P.S. Please give me URL's of salespeople sites, that ship to Europe :)[/QUOTE]
CYMA has some of the best AKs out there.
[QUOTE=dudder;19646560]CYMA has some of the best AKs out there.[/QUOTE]
When it comes to clones anyway. And even in that market, DBoys is arguably better.
Go with the Dboys, much better gun overall. Looks and feels great, it's balanced, and the gearbox lasts forever. My dad has A Gen 1 Dboys AK with plastic bushings and it still works, even when used with a 11.1v lipo battery (I don't recommend it, but so far no problems).
I heard echo 1 redstar AK is pretty good too.
[QUOTE=xXEnder007Xx;19649048]Go with the Dboys, much better gun overall. Looks and feels great, it's balanced, and the gearbox lasts forever. My dad has A Gen 1 Dboys AK with plastic bushings and it still works, even when used with a 11.1v lipo battery (I don't recommend it, but so far no problems).[/QUOTE]
actually, i retract my previous suggestion, DBoys does make great AKs.
Full steel Dboy AK's are great, Most of them come with rust already on them. Once again you must get them overseas. Only ASGI i know has an AKSU in full steel.
[QUOTE=Domis;19641513]Decided to get AK first, not M4.[/QUOTE]
^ NO! ^
I realised now, that i should get M4 first even if i like AK's more. Im too lazy to write reasons why, and i think you don't care about that.
And also, decided to get regular M4, not S-SYSTEM. Because i think that it's easier turn regular M4 to xXEnder007Xx like M4. I love how that gun looks!
Please tell me how to make my airsoft dreams come true lol.
P.S. First im gonna buy M4, only later these cool external things.
[QUOTE=TyreSucksDick;19645273]that AK looks like shit
[url]http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_206&products_id=5561[/url]
^ Cyma has the best looking 74 out now not steel though.
Dboy has steel but you gotta order overseas
You can put a russian loadout with the rest of the money[/QUOTE]
The funny thing is, is that that "shit" AK is better then the Cyma. G&G makes great AK's from what I've experienced. I've heard that VFC makes the best AK on the market. Kalash/DBoys makes clones of them which are also very good, beware of lemons though.
[QUOTE=Stupideye;19664022]The funny thing is, is that that "shit" AK is better then the Cyma. G&G makes great AK's from what I've experienced. I've heard that VFC makes the best AK on the market. Kalash/DBoys makes clones of them which are also very good, beware of lemons though.[/QUOTE]
Never heard of a lemon dboys or cyma. They really stepped up quality on there AK's. To me i didn't consider them clones they made awesome guns.
There are lemons from both unfortunately. They have stepped up their game but they still are cheap (cost wise) China guns.
[QUOTE=Domis;19661077]^ NO! ^
I realised now, that i should get M4 first even if i like AK's more. Im too lazy to write reasons why, and i think you don't care about that.
And also, decided to get regular M4, not S-SYSTEM. Because i think that it's easier turn regular M4 to xXEnder007Xx like M4. I love how that gun looks!
Please tell me how to make my airsoft dreams come true lol.
P.S. First im gonna buy M4, only later these cool external things.[/QUOTE]
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