[CONTROVERSY] Why do you listen to things like dubstep/techno-remixes/unf-unf-unf musics?
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Experimental stuff always stays in the underground. Or at least, out of the mainstream. Some people are just not able to understand or appreciate it and so listen to simple music which is catchy and easy to sing along to. They don't care if it's talentless shallow drivel, they like it so they listen to it. Just how it is.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;26906012]Experimental stuff always stays in the underground. Or at least, out of the mainstream. Some people are just not able to understand or appreciate it and so listen to simple music which is catchy and easy to sing along to. They don't care if it's talentless shallow drivel, they like it so they listen to it. Just how it is.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but I find it kind of worrying when people are so ignorant about music that they can't analyse and realise that musically what they're listening to is crap
I understand what you mean and I do wish people cared about music more, but most don't and they just consider it something that the radio plays for people to absent mindedly listen to with no real substance or meaning behind anything.
[QUOTE=kitthehacker;26905879]I don't normally comment on it. But god it pisses me off. These "artists" get heaps of recognition very easily for doing something that's incredibly easy and requires almost no natural talent. They take samples and place them in a specific order and people think they're the coolest people on earth. Pretty much anyone can do it passably. There is good electronic music but that's always the experimental stuff that actually uses creativity. Or the kind that actually shows musical talent through complex production or actual instrumentation (ie. Radiohead, Bass Communion, ambient music, some dnb.) But I cannot respect or condone this repeditive shit that people keep mindlessly churning out. I don't think it's particularly laughable to imagine a future where a live concert consists of someone playing an audio track whilst people dance, not DJing or anything; just playing the song. And that's not a good thing in my eyes.
And there's my little rant on the subject. Sorry if I've pissed anyone off, I normally shut up about it, people can like what they like, but the culture surrounding it and what it's doing to the music industry and music in general is incredibly annoying to me.[/QUOTE]
post examples.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;26859194]Clubland is incredibly shit.[/QUOTE]
Same goes for Ministry of Sound.
I try to make a point of never bashing music, but I am having a really hard time grasping this dubstep thing. Techno in general is alright for me now and then, but this damn dubstep. It just seems like noise.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;26906983]post examples.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking in terms of actual artists I know, just in general about both the "amateur" makers and the really popular shit like Ministry of Sound.
Although I didn't mean to so much say the genre is bad, because I don't really know enough about it, I was more trying to criticize the culture behind it and the basic ideas of it because in my eyes it's going to be the downfall of originality in the music industry.
I sound like a massive wanker don't I?
[QUOTE=reardon_e12;26907726]I try to make a point of never bashing music, but I am having a really hard time grasping this dubstep thing. Techno in general is alright for me now and then, but this damn dubstep. It just seems like noise.[/QUOTE]
so you've probably been listening to filth not genuine dubstep
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[QUOTE=kitthehacker;26907763]I wasn't talking in terms of actual artists I know, just in general about both the "amateur" makers and the really popular shit like Ministry of Sound.
Although I didn't mean to so much say the genre is bad, because I don't really know enough about it, I was more trying to criticize the culture behind it and the basic ideas of it because in my eyes it's going to be the downfall of originality in the music industry.
I sound like a massive wanker don't I?[/QUOTE]
ahaha what
you can't "bring down" originality, you can only move it somewhere else
that's just how it works, somebody cool says "hey look at this over here" so everyone goes and loves it for a while till they all get tired of it so somebody else moves away from that and discovers the next cool thing
this doesn't apply to just music either
it's called a trend
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
you don't like pop music now?
wait 10 years for the new trend, or start now and make the next trend
I personally can't listen to dubstep and beats all day but I do enjoy listening to them once in a while or when I'm in the mood to just throw on something I can groove to and not really have to think about it. Also, it makes banging party music. My theory is, if it makes bitches get up and dance then I like it.
dnb+breakbeat >x100 dubstep
[QUOTE=absinthe;26907941]you can't "bring down" originality, you can only move it somewhere else
that's just how it works, somebody cool says "hey look at this over here" so everyone goes and loves it for a while till they all get tired of it so somebody else moves away from that and discovers the next cool thing[/QUOTE]
The majority of trendy music is pretty terrible.
[QUOTE=absinthe;26907941]so you've probably been listening to filth not genuine dubstep
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
ahaha what
you can't "bring down" originality, you can only move it somewhere else
that's just how it works, somebody cool says "hey look at this over here" so everyone goes and loves it for a while till they all get tired of it so somebody else moves away from that and discovers the next cool thing
this doesn't apply to just music either
it's called a trend
[editline]23rd December 2010[/editline]
you don't like pop music now?
wait 10 years for the new trend, or start now and make the next trend[/QUOTE]
Except that doesn't change the fact that each time something is excessively popular there will be one original thing followed by lots of imitations of that thing because it sold well.
It's called commercialism.
And please capitalise your sentences, my eyes will be indebted to you.
uh yeah that's how a trend starts (and what I just posted)
you can't the post exact same thing I did and call it an argument against me
One reason I like Dubstep is because I like feeling the bass. There's lots of things artists do to accentuate the motif (which all music has by the way, just because it's a bit more apparent in electronic music doesn't mean your favorite artists don't use the same techniques).
Good example of something simple with lots of variation:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-EbWpmDfGo[/media]
And some other stuff I like...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HhrKf9KhkE[/media]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3c_Jr17iMI[/media]
[QUOTE=attackyourself!;26798173]You saying Chicago House and Deep House are boring?[/QUOTE]
No. By "all the brong stuff" I mean the kind that is meant to be artistic, and not catchy, such as Musique Concrete. I dislike Chicago House and Deep House because it's simply not my style.
The reason I think popular music seems/is less inspiring is because of its accessibility, it's not necessarily focused on a specific group of listeners. A song that is easily dance-able and liked by a broad range of people will probably become popular, thats why deadmau5 is so fucking popular right now. Almost everyone can get into his music, even if they haven't liked electronic before. fucks sake even my mom likes one of his songs.
You shouldn't expect deep meanings from mainstream music, it's just meant to get people dancing and people like Joel Zimmerman do that well. Usually more "meaningful" music is more personalized to a type of audience, so it's much harder for it to break into the mainstream. Does that answer your question a little bit better?
well put sporkfire. that basically sums up the reason for all mainstream music, be it pop, metal, rap, whatever. If it's accessible and good energetic and fun to listen to, then it'll become popular.
But it's also bs to automatically assume that popular music has no "deep meanings". Because unless you actually composed the song yourself, you have no idea what really went through the writer's head.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;26913334]But it's also bs to automatically assume that popular music has no "deep meanings". Because unless you actually composed the song yourself, you have no idea what really went through the writer's head.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know, thats why I put quotations around meaningful, though that usually seems the case.
lady gaga's lyrics apparently have underlying meanings to all the songs.
I listen to it because the good shit can be marvelous.
[quote]I know this is a --controversial-- subject; But, I do not see how one can listen to things like [B]INSERT MUSIC GENRE HERE[/B] or anything like that all fucking day.
I get that it may be catchy and easy to listen to, but there's plenty of easy and catchy things that are also much more than the same [B]IGNORANT GENERALIZATION ABOUT MUSIC GENRE HERE[/B] (Same five chords being strummed, for example). Is it that you're not really a fan of music and just like the noise in the background? Is it that you just don't give a fuck? Is it that you know nothing else? I cannot figure this out.
This is what is making me think of this, two of my friends love this, but I'm just baffled...
[B]INSERT POOR YOUTUBE VIDEO EXAMPLE OF MUSIC GENRE HERE[/B]
I know there is good [B]MUSIC GENRE GOES HERE[/B]. I have plenty that I enjoy and I also find it especially great when my favorite bands that haven't touched any of that genre try it out, it's always fun and I always enjoy it. But it seems more like an element that people tried and failed to implement but thought it could stand on it's own anyway.
I don't see the appeal.
Also, I know that people have differing tastes. I'm not saying you can't. I'd just like to see what people see in that kind of stuff. [/quote]
You see how this can go in many different ways, right? People listen to what they like. Different strokes for different folks.
People listen to electronic music, because it's better than [B]mitooool[/B].
hey op
it's a bad bad idea to question someone's musical tastes, ok
if you do then it pretty much means you're a giant prick
OP
They listen to what they like, it's not your duty to appoint them of their "bad music taste" just because you don't like it.
And they probably have their own reasons behind liking it just like you do with your favourite type(s) of genre(s). I for one like everything, except New rap, death-metal (melodic exception), and most "dull/dumb" electro. But I still like the people who listen to it, and I respect their music choice. Also, to say that "electro sucks" is to say the whole electro genre sucks, including it's sub-genres and progressive artists in that genre, which is just dumbing it all down.
[QUOTE=G-foxisus;26955207]OP
They listen to what they like, it's not your duty to appoint them of their "bad music taste" just because you don't like it.
And they probably have their own reasons behind liking it just like you do with your favourite type(s) of genre(s). I for one like everything, except New rap, death-metal (melodic exception), and most "dull/dumb" electro. But I still like the people who listen to it, and I respect their music choice. Also, to say that "electro sucks" is to say the whole electro genre sucks, including it's sub-genres and progressive artists in that genre, which is just dumbing it all down.[/QUOTE]
hello politically correct person number 22456
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPqedOeYvFg&feature=related[/media]
omg dirttttttttyyyyy dr0p mannnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't really get it, it's caught on so bad in my area and i've never really liked it. It can't be that hard to make either, this retarded boy in my class makes it lol
IMO It's shit and sounds the same but each to their own, people say that about my music but it's just their opinion so meh
whalestep?
WHAT THE FUCK. ELECTRONIC STEALING A GENRE NAME [i]AGAIN[/i].
[b]OBVIOUS[/b] rip off of whalecore. Fuck sake I hate all this shit.
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;26771349]dis some filthy dubstep though
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFu2DfPDGeU&hd=1[/media][/QUOTE]
Sounded like everything else on their channel.
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