LMAO Pics v. The Prequels Have Returned to Haunt Us All (Why does god think we deserve this)
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anyone got that video of two guys getting in a car with san andreas animations
[QUOTE=The Dovahneer;52309852]anyone got that video of two guys getting in a car with san andreas animations[/QUOTE]
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7PVE9M2JzE[/media]
[vid]http://i.imgur.com/iFzx1dC.mp4[/vid]
[sp]Surface to Air Molotov[/sp]
[QUOTE=Svinpels;52309294]How can you post that without referencing the sublime masterpiece it's honouring?
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiARsQSlzDc[/media]
For shame![/QUOTE]
The video is, in itself, all the reference you need.
[QUOTE=Breezeep;52310123]
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You have not yet begun to suffer.
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/klwqdf.webm[/vid]
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/okcfba.webm[/vid]
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/ewmqka.webm[/vid]
[QUOTE=Breezeep;52310123][media]https://twitter.com/dodonpahchi/status/870135160728989696[/media][/QUOTE]
I really wonder what's up with this.
Underfunding?
Extreme time constraints?
Low-effort cash grab?
They're like fucking G-Mod animations
You know, being sort of a fan of Berserk, I saw the 3 films which are 3D animated in a similar style.
I loved them. Sure, they had various smaller issues, but holy shit what the fuck is happening with this new anime series? (compare to [url=https://puu.sh/pyImk.webm]this scene[/url] from the films)
[QUOTE=Reds;52310144]You have not yet begun to suffer.
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/ewmqka.webm[/vid][/QUOTE]
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vy4dQHmalM[/media]
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52310159]I really wonder what's up with this.
Underfunding?
Extreme time constraints?
Low-effort cash grab?
They're like fucking G-Mod animations
You know, being sort of a fan of Berserk, I saw the 3 films which are 3D animated in a similar style.
I loved them. Sure, they had various smaller issues, but holy shit what the fuck is happening with this new anime series? (compare to [URL="https://puu.sh/pyImk.webm"]this scene[/URL] from the films)[/QUOTE]
I'd say cash grab, but this shit clearly isn't making any money. It must be a money laundering or tax dodging scheme. Or maybe the animators were following the author's example and also playing Idolmaster instead of working.
The only other thing that studio has made is a bunch of seasons of a two minute long anime about moe tennis. Zero ability in pretty much every department.
[QUOTE=Reds;52310144]You have not yet begun to suffer.
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/klwqdf.webm[/vid]
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/okcfba.webm[/vid]
[vid]https://my.mixtape.moe/ewmqka.webm[/vid][/QUOTE]
why do most 3d anime look like they got a framedrop problem? these look like cutscenes from a laggy videogame
[QUOTE=CunningHam;52310227]Little known fact is that a lot of the talent scouting for Berserk's animation team was done in Uganda
[video=youtube;WeuwW5A5Azs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeuwW5A5Azs[/video][/QUOTE]
Context
[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUtiVL6z8wE[/video]
[QUOTE=noh_mercy;52310252]why do most 3d anime look like they got a framedrop problem? these look like cutscenes from a laggy videogame[/QUOTE]
I think anime is commonly done in 12fps (with its exceptions of course), although there's zero reason for a limitation like that in a 3D show where they're not even trying to hide that it's not drawn.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBcHQfNUQAEbjGh.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=halfer;52309715]Honestly I wish Infinite Solutions would be back instead of Lasagna Cat[/QUOTE]
I listened to [URL="https://nerdyshow.com/2017/03/nerdy-show-interview-fatal-farm-returns-to-lasagna-cat/"]a podcast interview[/URL] with Fatal Farm (the guys behind these) and they mentioned that the original plan [I]was[/I] to bring back Infinite Solutions, but they weren't happy with what they were putting together and scrapped it. They're big perfectionists - they'd been working on the newer Lasagna Cats for >4 years - and also work professionally as effects guys so I guess it just never panned out.
[editline]3rd June 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=HyperTails;52309904][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7PVE9M2JzE[/media][/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;u_wHO1bB-1g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_wHO1bB-1g[/video]
[QUOTE=noh_mercy;52310252]why do most 3d anime look like they got a framedrop problem? these look like cutscenes from a laggy videogame[/QUOTE]
Anime is traditionally animated on 2s and 3s, such that in 24fps video, it looks as though it's 'running' at 12fps or 8fps. It isn't actually, because it's still 24fps, but because the images tend to change every 2nd or 3rd frame, it 'looks' slow. Over time we've become accustomed to seeing 2D drawings moving at this speed within this genre and it looks perfectly normal.
However, because of video games (30fps+) and 3D animated films (24fps), we are very used to seeing 3D models move at those higher framerates. When anime studios choose to work in 3D, they face a difficult dilemma: match the 3D frames to 2D timing, or speed up the timing of the 2D frames?
What you see is when studios take the easier of the two routes, which is to match 3D animation frames to the timing of 2D animation, such that it resembles a video game running at ~12fps.
The alternative results in an anime with what appears to be a much higher framerate, which some find jarring.
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I should say that you're also seeing bad animation, not just matched timing. When timing is done artfully it can look fine, this is just poor work.
[QUOTE=noh_mercy;52310252]why do most 3d anime look like they got a framedrop problem? these look like cutscenes from a laggy videogame[/QUOTE]
In an attempt to cut costs and to try to use animation shortcuts usually used on 2D shows, they cut the framerate to as low as 3FPS to try to make it look more like 2D and to hide lazy animation. 9/10 times it doesn't work because the animators have no talent and are using it to cut corners. This is usually combined with poor or unconvincing 3D models.
[URL="https://my.mixtape.moe/uwqasj.webm"]Sometimes it works if the animators are using it for effect[/URL] [URL="https://my.mixtape.moe/njtjur.webm"]and not as a crutch, sometimes mixing in 2d effects over the animation.[/URL] [URL="https://track3.mixtape.moe/goeosx.webm"]You'll notice that they look like they have as many frames as they need, and thus don't appear janky.[/URL] Guilty Gear Xrd is the best example of the effect since it's animated meticulously to look 2d, animating in a way that would make the models look bizarre if viewed from another angle. It even has 3d animation smears.
[t]https://wiki.4gamer.net/theme/4gamer/ggxrd/ss/sla/31.jpg[/t][t]https://wiki.4gamer.net/theme/4gamer/ggxrd/ss/fau/13.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Paul-Simon;52310159]I really wonder what's up with this.
They're like fucking G-Mod animations
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[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UrmKXkWyBc"]That's an insult to GMOD animations[/URL]
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[t]https://wiki.4gamer.net/theme/4gamer/ggxrd/ss/sla/31.jpg[/t][t]https://wiki.4gamer.net/theme/4gamer/ggxrd/ss/fau/13.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Never seen something like that. Genuinely curious to how it's done. Can't be all rigged to bones, that'd be a nightmare. I've seen Overwatch do smears, but they're nothing like this.
[QUOTE=Sheer Visor;52310339][VID]https://giant.gfycat.com/DeficientDenseLarva.webm[/VID][/QUOTE]
What's the context for that guy getting dumped down a manhole?
[QUOTE=SlickBlade;52310468]Never seen something like that. Genuinely curious to how it's done. Can't be all rigged to bones, that'd be a nightmare. I've seen Overwatch do smears, but they're nothing like this.[/QUOTE]
Seeing as the game is animated on individual keyframes with no motion between them, I imagine you could just attach a separate model to the existing one to create the effect for the duration of that frame.
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What's the context for that guy getting dumped down a manhole?[/QUOTE]
Titanfall 1 multiplayer campaign mission called Angel City where you need the help of an ex-IMC pilot known as Barker who quit during a mutiny and decided to become an alcoholic. He becomes a faction leader in Titanfall 2's multiplayer and is great to listen to his drunk commentary.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZuxL5uf1Po[/media] Skip to 12:45.
[QUOTE=Reds;52310484]Seeing as the game is animated on individual keyframes with no motion between them, I imagine you could just attach a separate model to the existing one to create the effect for the duration of that frame.[/QUOTE]
[img]https://narry.land/ZDggdE.png[/img]
Looks like a lot of it was done on the rig itself
From this video: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E[/url]
[QUOTE=Reds;52310484]Seeing as the game is animated on individual keyframes with no motion between them, I imagine you could just attach a separate model to the existing one to create the effect for the duration of that frame.[/QUOTE]
Honestly I'd do it with shaders. This wouldn't work other than for holding frames, and would be a huge pain in the ass to author. With shaders you could specify where holding frames should be for what objects and it'd work totally dynamically
