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[QUOTE=catbarf;36317273]Why do people always say this? A rifle isn't a good beginner's weapon by virtue of being cheap. The Mosin-Nagant is a very poor beginner's weapon, firing excessively heavy ammunition that causes flinching habits, with a bad trigger break that makes it hard to learn how to shoot accurately, is bolt-action so you can't learn how to manage recoil for quick follow-up shots, and has a hilarious tendency to outright stop functioning after sustained use. It is not and never has been an excellent rifle, for beginners or otherwise. It was a decent rifle when it was designed, back when Zulus were a real threat, flying machines were impossible fantasy, and Australia becoming a country instead of a prison colony was big news. It was kept only because the Soviet Union and modernization go together like socks and peanut butter, and since WW2 has aged less like a fine wine and more like moldy cheese locked in a Buick on a hot California day. Its only saving grace is that it's so crude in design that it's nearly impossible to break, making it the perfect weapon for arming quasi-trained militia and sending them to go die in Stalingrad. Good beginner's rifles don't sell for $80 at the local Wal-Mart. Good beginner's rifles haven't spent half a century sitting in a warehouse because nobody wanted them. If the prospective buyer's name isn't Simo Häyhä he isn't going to learn to shoot for shit with a Mosin-Nagant. A .22 rifle, 9mm carbine, or 20ga shotgun are all infinitely better choices.[/QUOTE] I should have phrased it as "It's a good rifle for beginning collectors", as supposed to beginning shooters. I have always had access to a large collection of firearms, and I built my way up to the Nagant, so I was ready for it. I love the way you composed your argument, it is very well written, and rather witty.
Sorry if it sounded like I was jumping down your throat, it is a great collector's rifle and pretty cheap for a piece of militaria (so long as the discerning buyer is cautious to make sure everything matches). I've just run into a number of people, usually older teenagers/early 20s, who buy a shitty mismatched Mosin because it's a GUN and it's CHEAP and the AMMO'S CHEAP TOO and then enthusiastically go learn terrible shooting habits that have to be un-learned before they can make any progress.
[QUOTE=catbarf;36317432]Sorry if it sounded like I was jumping down your throat, it is a great collector's rifle and pretty cheap for a piece of militaria (so long as the discerning buyer is cautious to make sure everything matches). I've just run into a number of people, usually older teenagers/early 20s, who buy a shitty mismatched Mosin because it's a GUN and it's CHEAP and the AMMO'S CHEAP TOO and then enthusiastically go learn terrible shooting habits that have to be un-learned before they can make any progress.[/QUOTE] Not to mention that despite it's popularity over the internet, a lot of people have never seen one, and at the ranges I visit turn with wide eyes towards my table after I fire a round and the echo thunders through the valley, and ask to shoot it! It's also a great piece to display to show the length of a rifle with a mounted spike bayonet! (almost as tall as me)
Yeah, I spent $155 on my 1935 Tula hex, all matching. No way I would buy a 1945 round top where all the numbers are different just because it was $70.
Catbarf and Cardfan, what guns do you guys have?
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[QUOTE=/Vandy/;36317626]Catbarf and Cardfan, what guns do you guys have?[/QUOTE] I own a Nugget, but my dad has a .357, my grandpa has a .357, and my uncle has 10 .22s, an AR-15, a few Glocks, and a Springfield XDm.
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I have me grandma's Winchester 190. Prolly getting her .27* rifle for my birthday.
[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;36317806]I have me grandma's Winchester 190. Prolly getting her .27* rifle for my birthday.[/QUOTE] 27? Do you mean .17 HMR or .22?
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That whole assassin1421 thing was scary.. Thanks craptasket.
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[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;36318724]What thing?[/QUOTE] gas magazine question thread shitstorm
That kid was such an asshat. Ordering from GF airsoft? FACEPALM HARDCORE. Hope he never comes back. While we are still on the topic on real steel, I might be wanting to pick up a handgun soon or a pistol grip shotgun. Still deciding on the two. Also i'm growing my beard for Blacksheep.
That thread was a funny quick read and rate rape for me.
[QUOTE=Repulse`;36318893]That kid was such an asshat. Ordering from GF airsoft? FACEPALM HARDCORE. Hope he never comes back. While we are still on the topic on real steel, I might be wanting to pick up a handgun soon or a pistol grip shotgun. Still deciding on the two. Also i'm growing my beard for Blacksheep.[/QUOTE] tactically effective.
Gotta have my face armor somehow. They don't have bang bang rules at pine plains!
My first gun was a Remingtom 870 with the wood stock and errything....
Went shooting with my Dad, best father-son bonding ever with this Springfield Armory 1911-A1 now with shitty phone quality [IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/ighwnn.jpg[/IMG]
Well it's official, big oil fucks people up bad. My step dad let his big important job selling stupid ass valves go to his big stupid head and inflate his big stupid ego, making him have absolutely no time for his family. All he does is talk to all the big oil fatcats he's selling his valves to and sleep. And people wonder why I'm a communist. It's so fucktards like him don't get grossly overpayed to inflate their ego and do fuckall.
Sometimes at school, when I am in JROTC, I like to take off my shirt and pretend i am a badass
What we get in our capsule/gashapon machines: [img]http://www.fanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ben10-toys-02.jpeg[/img] What Asian kids get in their capsule/gashapon machines: [img]http://www.akaus.com/ebay_photos/warplanes_2_sample.jpg[/img] :suicide:
[QUOTE=TaiwanesePrick;36319842]What we get in our capsule/gashapon machines: [img]http://www.fanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ben10-toys-02.jpeg[/img] What Asian kids get in their capsule/gashapon machines: [img]http://www.akaus.com/ebay_photos/warplanes_2_sample.jpg[/img] :suicide:[/QUOTE] Even though I had no idea what a Hind was when I was 5 years old, I would have thought that was way more cool.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;36319865]Even though I had no idea what a Hind was when I was 5 years old, I would have thought that was way more cool.[/QUOTE] Anything that isn't a one piece mold beats the shit out of our drug store toys. Also, when I first saw the picture, I thought the battery was for the Hind...
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;36319769]And people wonder why I'm a communist. It's so fucktards like him don't get grossly overpayed to inflate their ego and do fuckall.[/QUOTE] No, instead everyone can be underpaid to work when they feel like and do fuckall. Or off to the gulags! Woo!
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;36319865]Even though I had no idea what a Hind was when I was 5 years old, I would have thought that was way more cool.[/QUOTE] And that's not even the end of it. [img]http://www.akaus.com/ebay_photos/ebay_furuta_plane_2S_21_01.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.micronationshop.com/catalog/ebay_furuta_combatvehicle_1_01_1.jpg[/img] [img]http://static.hlj.com/images/frt/frt20719.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.the-old-toy-factory.com/Webpage/Imagens/Miniaturas/Furuta/Furuta_Chocofighter05.jpg[/img] [img]http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35114803/aview/70003.jpg[/img] [t]http://www.micronationshop.com/catalog/yahoo_furuta_warplanes_3.jpg[/t] [t]http://www.micronationshop.com/catalog/yahoo_furuta_warplanes_2.jpg[/t] And to think I'm going to Taiwan on the 18th. Gotta bag me some of these!
[QUOTE=catbarf;36319916]No, instead everyone can be underpaid to work when they feel like and do fuckall. Or off to the gulags! Woo![/QUOTE] Shit like oil should be nationalized though. Way more money can go to the government instead of into the pockets of a CEO who does nothing but sit on his ass and watch the money roll in or into the pockets of some rig worker who dropped out of high school in grade 10 and just wastes all his money on strippers and blow.
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