[QUOTE=/Vandy/;36317626]Catbarf and Cardfan, what guns do you guys have?[/QUOTE]
Currently go to school in New York, so I don't own any guns on account of needing to transport them across state lines and then deal with New York's bullshit. My uncle, on the other hand, owns a ton of guns I take every opportunity to shoot when I visit, and between him and his couple of buddies could arm enough militiamen to execute a coup on a small African nation.
Edit: J7W SHINDEN, WANT BAD
[QUOTE=catbarf;36319996]Currently go to school in New York, so I don't own any guns on account of needing to transport them across state lines and then deal with New York's bullshit. My uncle, on the other hand, owns a ton of guns I take every opportunity to shoot when I visit, and between him and his couple of buddies could arm enough militiamen to execute a coup on a small African nation.
Edit: J7W SHINDEN, WANT BAD[/QUOTE]
Very nice! I also want [I]all[/I] the biplanes.
Should I post a list of my family's guns? I might even be able to get a group picture one day.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;36319989]Shit like oil should be nationalized though. Way more money can go to the government instead of into the pockets of a CEO who does nothing but sit on his ass and watch the money roll in or into the pockets of some rig worker who dropped out of high school in grade 10 and just wastes all his money on strippers and blow.[/QUOTE]
You seem to be ignorant of the important role a CEO provides, he does more than 'sit on his ass and watch the money roll in'. If it were such an easy job, anyone could do it. If being a rig worker were so simple, everyone would be clamoring for the job.
Suggesting that a government agency would be less wasteful and more efficient... I think you need some first-hand experience with how terrible an agency with no stockholder responsibility can be run.
I want dat Kfir.
[editline]13th June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=catbarf;36320045]You seem to be ignorant of the important role a CEO provides, he does more than 'sit on his ass and watch the money roll in'. If it were such an easy job, anyone could do it. [b]If being a rig worker were so simple, everyone would be clamoring for the job.[/b]
Suggesting that a government agency would be less wasteful and more efficient... I think you need some first-hand experience with how terrible an agency with no stockholder responsibility can be run.[/QUOTE]
You have no idea how many dumb slacker kids in my school say they're going to work on the rigs. It can't be very intellectually demanding if someone who can fail retard math thinks they can do it.
[editline]13th June 2012[/editline]
I really just hate the oil industry because they make so much money to destroy the Earth. Unfortunately it's impossible to not support these fuckers.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;36320052]I want dat Kfir.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=catbarf;36319996]J7W SHINDEN, WANT BAD[/QUOTE]
Each of those would cost me $1.67 USD to buy for you guys :v:
[QUOTE=TaiwanesePrick;36320319]Each of those would cost me $1.67 USD to buy for you guys :v:[/QUOTE]
Do it
[QUOTE=TaiwanesePrick;36319967]
And to think I'm going to Taiwan on the 18th. Gotta bag me some of these![/QUOTE]
buy a bunch and resell to ifap
also
I never got your postcard :c
[QUOTE=Fish Muffin;36320340]buy a bunch and resell to ifap
also
I never got your postcard :c[/QUOTE]
:C
fucking mailmen
I should have stuck them in envelopes...
[QUOTE=catbarf;36320045]You seem to be ignorant of the important role a CEO provides, he does more than 'sit on his ass and watch the money roll in'. If it were such an easy job, anyone could do it. If being a rig worker were so simple, everyone would be clamoring for the job.
Suggesting that a government agency would be less wasteful and more efficient... I think you need some first-hand experience with how terrible an agency with no stockholder responsibility can be run.[/QUOTE]
loathing
Really late, but I'd recommend a .40 cal handgun if it's your first handgun. If you want a K98, don't buy the Yugo, wait it out for a real German one
[QUOTE=catbarf;36319916]No, instead everyone can be underpaid to work when they feel like and do fuckall. Or off to the gulags! Woo![/QUOTE]
I can tell you understand what communism is, good job.
[editline]14th June 2012[/editline]
I don't want to start anything but the ignorance pains me.
[QUOTE=Stupideye;36320632]I can tell you understand what communism is, good job.[/QUOTE]
Hyperbolic, misinformed, grossly ignorant and exaggerated statement -> hyperbolic, misinformed, grossly ignorant and exaggerated response. If capitalism is a system where evil lazy corporate drones can sit on their butts and rake in cash hand over fist for doing nothing, then communism (or rather socialism, since true communism has pretty much never existed and would never work) is a system where the poor proletariat is motivated by fear of ideological reclassification.
Want to know the real reason why Capitalism doesn't work?
It's because even as a theory Capitalism is flawed, which a theory [I]shouldn't[/I] be.
The main staples of Capitalism:
1)All people must have equal rights, political access, and power
2)Wealth and inequality is okay as long as the least off benefits
The problem? As soon as there's financial inequality people no longer have equal rights, power and political access
[QUOTE=TaiwanesePrick;36320319]Each of those would cost me $1.67 USD to buy for you guys :v:[/QUOTE]
I'll buy like 5, just don't open the ones you set aside for me, they must be a total secret. Or don't tell me what you're sending me if you can't handle the strain of awesome surprises.
[QUOTE=notrabies;36320800]I'll buy like 5, just don't open the ones you set aside for me, they must be a total secret. Or don't tell me what you're sending me if you can't handle the strain of awesome surprises.[/QUOTE]
Okay! WHO ELSE WANTS MYSTERY CAPSULES? I'll try my best to get them for everyone, no guarantees, and because they're mystery capsules, I won't be able to get you any specific model.
How much are they likely to be? If they're cheap i'll take 5 too if you're taking 'orders' :v:
If you open them to check what they are, and you get more than one HIND i wouldn't mind one, but keep the others secret.
snip
Hell yes please
Id buy like, two.
[QUOTE=FloaterTWO;36320830]How much are they likely to be? If they're cheap i'll take 5 too if you're taking 'orders' :v:
If you get more than one HIND i wouldn't mind one, but keep the others secret.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how much gashapons are in Taiwan now, but last time I went it was 50NT ($1.67 USD)
I have internet access in my house in Taiwan, so I'll be able to keep in touch with you guys once I get there. I'm thinking now they're around 100-200 NT. ($3.34-$6.68)
Depending on if I can find any on sale (there are hobby shops that sells an entire set for like 1,000NT ($30), I can lower the prices by some haha
[B]CURRENT ORDERS:
Fish Muffin- 2 capsules
Foos- ???
FloaterTWO- 5 capsules
Notrabies- 5 capsules[/B]
saw Prometheus tonight.
fucking amazing.
[QUOTE=felix the cat;36320798]Want to know the real reason why Capitalism doesn't work?
It's because even as a theory Capitalism is flawed, which a theory [I]shouldn't[/I] be.
The main staples of Capitalism:
1)All people must have equal rights, political access, and power
2)Wealth and inequality is okay as long as the least off benefits
The problem? As soon as there's financial inequality people no longer have equal rights, power and political access[/QUOTE]
you like your airsoft gun?
Good.
The community likes it too.
Comrade ivan use it for game on saturday
you dont like?
you're dead
[QUOTE=felix the cat;36320798]Want to know the real reason why Capitalism doesn't work?
It's because even as a theory Capitalism is flawed, which a theory [I]shouldn't[/I] be.
The main staples of Capitalism:
1)All people must have equal rights, political access, and power
2)Wealth and inequality is okay as long as the least off benefits
The problem? As soon as there's financial inequality people no longer have equal rights, power and political access[/QUOTE]
By the same token, even if there is total financial equality, not all people are born equal. For an extremely intelligent, hard-working person to be allocated the same resources as a lazy, incompetent person is just as unfair.
No system of government or economy is perfect, but the underlying premise of capitalism is that if all people are given equal opportunities, they will solve their problems in the most efficient manner. It's not objectively better or worse than any other system, merely different.
Edit: This is really seriously reminding me of Deus Ex: Invisible War. Anyone here ever play that? I'll just paste an interesting and relevant conversation.
[quote][B]JC Denton[/B]: We're now ready to transform the human race. It became clear to me after the defeat of MJ-12 that the old answers to tyranny are inadequate. [...] I'm going to establish the first posthuman civilization, and you're my first citizen. Welcome.[B]
Alex D[/B]: Tell me more about this "posthuman civilization."
[B]JC Denton[/B]: Before the... disruptions, Helios and I had many months of productive thought. Up to now, all free societies have started with one premise: human nature is cruel, unjust -- a force to be controlled.[B]
Alex D[/B]: I follow you so far.[B]
JC Denton[/B]: The separation of powers -- from Aristotle to Montesquieu -- is designed purely to thwart the ambitions of individuals. How comical, the West's pride in its vast tangle of agencies, jurisdictions, arcane procedures...[B]
Alex D[/B]: What's the alternative?[B]
JC Denton[/B]: Address the flaws in human nature. Make all beings truly equal in both body and mind. If you start with minds that are lucid, knowledgable, and emotionally sound, the needs of government change dramatically.[B]
Alex D[/B]: How do you control human emotions? Antidepressants? Is that freedom?[B]
JC Denton[/B]: Is it freedom when one child is born to poverty, a chance combination of organic materials, while the wealthy child is shaped every day of his life, enhanced genetically, trained, educated, often augmented nanotechnologically?[B]
Alex D[/B]: Why not get rid of nanotech and genetic engineering, the technologies that make people different from each other?[B]
JC Denton[/B]: Then you go down the path of intolerance, as your friend Billie did. Is human nature perfect? No. Therefore, improvements are to be welcomed, not annihilated in Templar pogroms. As enhanced beings, we can establish a pure democracy that runs on instantaneous input from the electorate.[B]
Alex D[/B]: What would this "pure democracy" look like?[B]
JC Denton[/B]: The Helios AI has the processing power to handle all governmental functions worldwide, legislative, executive, and judicial. Once every mind has been enhanced and can merge with the AI, attitudes toward major legislation can be processed on a daily or even more frequent basis.[B]
Alex D[/B]: You want everyone to be like the Omar and meld themselves together into one huge AI construct?[B]
JC Denton[/B]: Helios will communicate, not assimilate. Life will go on as usual.[B]
Alex D[/B]: Helios is starting to sound like an enlightened despot.[B]
JC Denton[/B]: All governments have power. The benefit of giving this power to a synthetic intellect is that human affairs would no longer need to be ruled by generalities. Helios will have a deep understanding of every person's life and opinions.[B]
Alex D[/B]: What if I don't want someone peeking into my mind?[B]
JC Denton[/B]: Upon consideration, you'll see that this arrangement is for the best. "General ideas are no proof of the strength, but rather of the insufficiency of the human intellect." The words of Alexis de Tocqueville, an observer of the birth of modern democracy. Though general ideas allow human minds to make judgments quickly, they are necessarily incomplete.
[B]JC Denton[/B]: So de Tocqueville noted that an all-knowing mind -- the mind of God, as he conceived it -- would have no need for general ideas. It would understand every individual in detail and at a glance. Incomplete applications of law or justice would be impossible for such a mind.[B]
Alex D[/B]: So you see yourself as a god?[B]
JC Denton[/B]: I want human affairs to be driven by wisdom. Finding the correct recipe for wisdom has been my project these long years under the ice.[B]
Alex D[/B]: You seem to think you've succeeded.[B]
JC Denton[/B]: Wisdom must first be human. You must start with what a human sees and feels. But wisdom must also be knowledgeable, logical, and fair to billions of other beings.
[/quote]
[quote]
[B]Paul Denton[/B]: If you want to even out the social order, you have to change the nature of power itself. Right? And what creates power? Wealth, physical strength, legislation -- maybe -- but none of those is the root principle of power.[B]
Alex D[/B]: I’m listening.[B]
Paul Denton[/B]: Ability is the ideal that drives the modern state. It's a synonym for one's worth, one's social reach, one's "election," in the Biblical sense, and it's the ideal that needs to be changed if people are to begin living as equals.[B]
Alex D[/B]: And you think you can equalize humanity with biomodification?[B]
Paul Denton[/B]: The commodification of ability -- tuition, of course, but, increasingly, genetic treatments, cybernetic protocols, now biomods -- has had the side effect of creating a self-perpetuating aristocracy in all advanced societies. When ability becomes a public resource, what will distinguish people will be what they do with it. Intention. Dedication. Integrity. The qualities we would choose as the bedrock of the social order.[/quote]
Felix, what guns do you own?
[QUOTE=catbarf;36320913]By the same token, even if there is total financial equality, not all people are born equal. For an extremely intelligent, hard-working person to be allocated the same resources as a lazy, incompetent person is just as unfair.
No system of government or economy is perfect, but the underlying premise of capitalism is that if all people are given equal opportunities, they will solve their problems in the most efficient manner. It's not objectively better or worse than any other system, merely different.[/QUOTE]
Except people [I]are not[/I] given equal opportunities. The problem with Capitalism, like I said, is that it's flawed even as a theory. The other majorly accepted politcal theories [I]aren't[/I] flawed on paper
[editline]14th June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=/Vandy/;36320924]Felix, what guns do you own?[/QUOTE]
1917 Lee Enfield
1943 Mosin Nagant
Soon to own an M1 Carbine and as soon as I'm 21 I'm buying an FNP-40
[QUOTE=catbarf;36320710]Hyperbolic, misinformed, grossly ignorant and exaggerated statement -> hyperbolic, misinformed, grossly ignorant and exaggerated response. If capitalism is a system where evil lazy corporate drones can sit on their butts and rake in cash hand over fist for doing nothing, then communism (or rather socialism, since true communism has pretty much never existed and would never work) is a system where the poor proletariat is motivated by fear of ideological reclassification.[/QUOTE]
Okay, point to where I said capitalism is terrible and I'm a hardcore communist. Both have serious flaws and more relevance in different times and places imo.
[editline]14th June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Back_Slash;36320874]you like your airsoft gun?
Good.
The community likes it too.
Comrade ivan use it for game on saturday
you dont like?
you're dead[/QUOTE]
USSR =/= communism
I hardly consider Bolshevism communism, it's mega authoritarian.
what
when are you buying an m1
[QUOTE=felix the cat;36320977]Except people [I]are not[/I] given equal opportunities. The problem with Capitalism, like I said, is that it's flawed even as a theory. The other majorly accepted politcal theories [I]aren't[/I] flawed on paper[/QUOTE]
In a capitalistic economy everyone has the same opportunity to make money as they see fit. No rules tying individuals down, you're free to make your own fortune.
No, that is not how it works in practice, but the [I]theory[/I] provides equality, and that's my point. The idea of equality is subjective, and there are many different, equally valid interpretations of what constitutes equality amongst people. A level playing field so that each can prosper according to his ability, that's one notion of equality. Equal financial value for all people and working for the common good, that's another notion of equality. Giving to each according to his need, and taking according to his ability- that's a third.
You seem to be claiming what is essentially hotly-debated political opinion for objective fact. It is not an absolute fact that capitalism is flawed as a theory and the other systems are not, that is merely an opinion, and one that is not even anywhere near a consensus or overwhelming majority on a global scale.
Nobody can boil the age-old question of what constitutes equality down to a black-or-white assertion of 'facts'. We've been wrestling with it for thousands of years. Doesn't claiming to know for certain the absolute answer to a matter of opinion strike you as a bit conceited?
[QUOTE=Stupideye;36321025]Okay, point to where I said capitalism is terrible and I'm a hardcore communist. Both have serious flaws and more relevance in different times and places imo.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I phrased that poorly. I meant that Taep gave a hyperbolic over-the-top depiction of capitalism, using that as the reason for being communist, so I responded in kind with a ridiculously hyperbolic over-the-top depiction of communism. The point was that gross mischaracterization can go both ways and it wasn't meant to be taken at face value.
[QUOTE=catbarf;36321155]In a capitalistic economy everyone has the same opportunity to make money as they see fit. No rules tying individuals down, you're free to make your own fortune.
No, that is not how it works in practice, but the [I]theory[/I] provides equality, and that's my point. The idea of equality is subjective, and there are many different, equally valid interpretations of what constitutes equality amongst people. A level playing field so that each can prosper according to his ability, that's one notion of equality. Equal financial value for all people and working for the common good, that's another notion of equality. Giving to each according to his need, and taking according to his ability- that's a third.
You seem to be claiming what is essentially hotly-debated political opinion for objective fact. It is not an absolute fact that capitalism is flawed as a theory and the other systems are not, that is merely an opinion, and one that is not even anywhere near a consensus or overwhelming majority on a global scale.
Nobody can boil the age-old question of what constitutes equality down to a black-or-white assertion of 'facts'. We've been wrestling with it for thousands of years. Doesn't claiming to know for certain the absolute answer to a matter of opinion strike you as a bit conceited?
[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying that I know the absolute answer. All I was saying is that on paper, in a perfect world, most of the other widely accepted political theories WORK PERFECTLY. Capitalism, on the other hand, even in a perfect world, is flawed in it's very nature.
[editline]14th June 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fish Muffin;36321040]what
when are you buying an m1[/QUOTE]
after blacksheep
I got my XTC-100 helmet cam today hence why I went missing for hours. Just got home. I mounted it on a hat and wore it around all day so expect the full documentary of my life to demonstrate the video quality of the Midlands cam soon.
Also a good feature of the XTC-100 is also one of the worst. It takes AAA batteries which is cool because it's near impossible to recharge shit in the middle of a game but at the same time it eats them like candy.
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