The Creative Photography Thread v7 | The quickest way to make money at photography is to sell your c - General

[QUOTE=Elfy;39599691][url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/91259171@N05/8476910982/][img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8227/8476910982_40c7659a99_z.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/91259171@N05/8476910982/]Accordion.jpg[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/91259171@N05/]Elfy10[/url], on Flickr Much better[/QUOTE] You clipped the blacks too much. It's too dark in places that it shouldn't be so you've lost details. Mind posting the first one so I can have a go at it?

[QUOTE=CottonTM;39599806]You clipped the blacks too much. It's too dark in places that it shouldn't be so you've lost details. Mind posting the first one so I can have a go at it?[/QUOTE] Or not use black and white at all

[QUOTE=pinecleandog;39599865]Or not use black and white at all[/QUOTE] That's got nothing to do with it man.

[QUOTE=CottonTM;39599895]That's got nothing to do with it man.[/QUOTE] It looks crap in black and white, very rarely do people know when to/use b/w properly.

[QUOTE=pinecleandog;39599905]It looks crap in black and white, very rarely do people know when to/use b/w properly.[/QUOTE] That's a pretty terrible argument. It "looks crap" because of poor PP and it's got potential. It's impossible to say it would look better in color without having even seen the original colors.

Really its just lol im artistic so im going to use black and white.

Oh god what have I started, I'm sorry FP

Shut up pinecleandog, you sound like the most immature person I've heard in this sub forum in a long time.

We don't take kindly to your type pinecleandog.

[QUOTE=Elfy;39599989]Oh god what have I started, I'm sorry FP[/QUOTE] You've done nothing, your photograph is aesthetically good in my opinion.

Immature for having a sense of taste? bah. Look there's an appropriate time to use black and white and this is not one of them. If the colours were too distracting it's simple enough to just make the image less saturated without making it black and white. The light in the scene is not right for it either, the colours are highly contrasted but the shadows/lighting to textures is not. That's why most gig images are black and white, because of the unidirectional lighting casting more intense shadows bringing out more detail of either a player or the band as a whole, contrasting them from the background.

[QUOTE=Him1411;39600010]You've done nothing, your photograph is aesthetically good in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Yeah you just need some help with post processing. A good start would be learning to use selections and masks rather than limiting yourself to only adjusting the overall contrast at once. [QUOTE=pinecleandog;39600107]Immature for having a sense of taste? bah. Look there's an appropriate time to use black and white and this is not one of them. If the colours were too distracting it's simple enough to just make the image less saturated without making it black and white. The light in the scene is not right for it either, [B]the colours are highly contrasted but the shadows/lighting to textures is not.[/B] That's why most gig images are black and white, because of the unidirectional lighting casting more intense shadows bringing out more detail of either a player or the band as a whole, contrasting them from the background.[/QUOTE] what colors :v: and what do you even mean by shadows to textures, I must be lacking this sixth sense that allows light and texture to be represented on the same scale... I fail to see the connection between band lighting and this outdoor portrait, and you're really showing your ignorance talking in such a matter of fact way about background contrast. You're [I]really [/I]suggesting that black and white is only suitable when there's one "uni-directional" light source?

[QUOTE=pinecleandog;39600107]Immature for having a sense of taste? bah. Look there's an appropriate time to use black and white and this is not one of them. If the colours were too distracting it's simple enough to just make the image less saturated without making it black and white. The light in the scene is not right for it either, the colours are highly contrasted but the shadows/lighting to textures is not. That's why most gig images are black and white, because of the unidirectional lighting casting more intense shadows bringing out more detail of either a player or the band as a whole, contrasting them from the background.[/QUOTE] post like this [QUOTE=pinecleandog;39599979]Really its just lol im artistic so im going to use black and white.[/QUOTE] instead of posting like that

-snip- nevermind, ill leave it as is

[QUOTE=pinecleandog;39600137]I'm tired of having to repeat that lecture[/QUOTE] wouldn't it have been easier to not post at all then?

[QUOTE=pinecleandog;39600107]Immature for having a sense of taste? bah. Look there's an appropriate time to use black and white and this is not one of them. If the colours were too distracting it's simple enough to just make the image less saturated without making it black and white. The light in the scene is not right for it either, the colours are highly contrasted but the shadows/lighting to textures is not. That's why most gig images are black and white, because of the unidirectional lighting casting more intense shadows bringing out more detail of either a player or the band as a whole, contrasting them from the background.[/QUOTE] Not for having taste, for sounding like a bitchy 12 year old. In my opinion you can use whatever colour palette you want to use at any time, I don't think creativity should ever be limited or hindered. Use black and white whenever you want, there should be no rules with photography.

[QUOTE=pinecleandog;39600137]-snip- nevermind, ill leave it as is[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to attack your point of view, I just want you to elaborate on what you mean because I'm having a hard time understanding you. [editline]15th February 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Him1411;39600205] there should be no rules with photography.[/QUOTE] Except don't overdo hdr pls

[QUOTE=Him1411;39600205]there should be no rules with photography.[/QUOTE] Okay, if you wish so. [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPIbNQGldnQKTHNKv3xCCfwHcjraeUpfkruVp4hvPgn74mw_aC[/IMG]

[QUOTE=pinecleandog;39600307]Okay, if you wish so. [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPIbNQGldnQKTHNKv3xCCfwHcjraeUpfkruVp4hvPgn74mw_aC[/IMG][/QUOTE] magnifisuuu~ my people in the workplace project is coming along [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xDafbBL.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/KnG48vK.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=pinecleandog;39600307]Okay, if you wish so. [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPIbNQGldnQKTHNKv3xCCfwHcjraeUpfkruVp4hvPgn74mw_aC[/IMG][/QUOTE] stop making fucking waves

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2g4AZ3g.jpg[/IMG] added some uni-directional lighting and made it less black and white there ya go

[QUOTE=CottonTM;39600950][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2g4AZ3g.jpg[/IMG] added some uni-directional lighting and made it less black and white there ya go[/QUOTE] I never said only uni directional lighting

You guys are looking like an HDR forum right now, be passive to controversial opinions. I personally agree with pine's original points.

[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/asbjrnandersen/8476268769/][img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8476268769_374d629833_z.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/asbjrnandersen/8476268769/]Untitled[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/asbjrnandersen/]▲SBJØRN[/url], on Flickr thoughts, opinions or anything else?

[QUOTE=pinecleandog;39601003]I never said only uni directional lighting[/QUOTE] I know I'm just messing around. But don't say things like "That's why most gig images are black and white, because of the unidirectional lighting casting more intense shadows bringing out more detail" it's not even relevant really. I get that what you're saying is with one light source at a low angle you'll depict your subjects' texture more dramatically and have an overall higher contrast image, but...what does that have to do with anything? The only thing I can get out of that is you think black and white should only be used in said scenarios, which is simply not true. "Gig shots" may often be and black and white with uni-directional lighting, simply due to the nature of the lighting in the room and the photographer's personal preference. Black and white is a viable format to use just as color is. Like I get what you're saying, it's just a moot point that came out of the blue and has no relevance. [QUOTE=/B/rother;39601652][URL="http://www.flickr.com/photos/asbjrnandersen/8476268769/"][IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8476268769_374d629833_z.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://www.flickr.com/photos/asbjrnandersen/8476268769/"]Untitled[/URL] by [URL="http://www.flickr.com/people/asbjrnandersen/"]▲SBJØRN[/URL], on Flickr thoughts, opinions or anything else?[/QUOTE] the figure being out of focus bugs me, but he's probably so close that you're pushing at your max DoF with a close subject. Still, I'd like to see it with him a bit further out, and in this case seeing the back of the subject's head isn't really doing anything for me. I very much do like the setting and point of view, however. The light hitting the leaves on the edge of the woods is very calming.

Got a surprisingly awe-inspiring shot of the moon and stars. Wasn't expecting the stars to look so nice. [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/91259171@N05/8477430716/][img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/8477430716_ef6c6ae22f_c.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/91259171@N05/8477430716/]Moon[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/91259171@N05/]Elfy10[/url], on Flickr [editline]15th February 2013[/editline] The stars are not photoshopped in

[QUOTE=Elfy;39602203]Got a surprisingly awe-inspiring shot of the moon and stars. Wasn't expecting the stars to look so nice. [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/91259171@N05/8477430716/][img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/8477430716_ef6c6ae22f_c.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/91259171@N05/8477430716/]Moon[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/91259171@N05/]Elfy10[/url], on Flickr [editline]15th February 2013[/editline] The stars are not photoshopped in[/QUOTE] is the moon photoshopped in? it looks like a brush. also, not sure if stars are supposed to be visible within the dark side of the moon.

how can there be stars in front of the moon

Just realised how many satellites I must have picked up on the dark side of the moon. There are 2200 satellites active at the moment.

[QUOTE=CottonTM;39601656]the figure being out of focus bugs me, but he's probably so close that you're pushing at your max DoF with a close subject. Still, I'd like to see it with him a bit further out, and in this case seeing the back of the subject's head isn't really doing anything for me. I very much do like the setting and point of view, however. The light hitting the leaves on the edge of the woods is very calming.[/QUOTE] i like how person is out of focus and his face not shown, but i honestly can't say why. i guess he's there to make the scene more interesting instead of getting his picture taken, you know?