[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;43390947]I've consumed 5 grams of Methoxetamine (MXE) over the course of 1 and a half year. It went on and off, I've had 4 day binges to not consuming any for a few months. I'm just glad I didn't end up like on of them horror stories you read on the Bluelight forum. It's crazy some people go trough a gram in just a day because tolerance just goes trough the roof real fast with that stuff.
I'm not planning on buying MXE anymore though because it's not produced by the same labs as when it was 'good' (up untill March 2012 IIRC). I really want to try Ketamine though since it's more of a dissocative compared to MXE, MXE has this annoying overstimulative comedown which makes it impossible to sleep for hours.[/QUOTE]
heard that.
Ket is much much easier to binge on since it last much shorter
[QUOTE=MetalT0ast;43409948]heard that.
Ket is much much easier to binge on since it last much shorter[/QUOTE]
However it's also more dangerous with frequent use due to bladder problems.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43409968]However it's also more dangerous with frequent use due to bladder problems.[/QUOTE]
Plus it's really addictive and morish. I've heard of too many people getting really hooked on ket. I've only done it once quite recently and I'm going to try and leave it for a while before doing it again to avoid addiction.
[editline]4th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;43360128]25i shoots your tolerance through the roof, never was a big fan
But 2C-I and B are the shit[/QUOTE]
So what's the difference between the different 2c-somethings
the first time I tripped was on 2C-b, and that was really intense and i was convinced it was acid until I was told by my friends. I took acid later on, and the visuals were similar, but acid had a more 'wavy' feel to it. 2 tabs of 2c-b and 2 tabs of really strong acid from the chi. I liked the acid better- laughing, man.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;43410268]Plus it's really addictive and morish. I've heard of too many people getting really hooked on ket. I've only done it once quite recently and I'm going to try and leave it for a while before doing it again to avoid addiction.
[editline]4th January 2014[/editline]
So what's the difference between the different 2c-somethings[/QUOTE]
it's wonderfully psychedelic though. Lot's of things can be learned from it.
The differences in the 2c's comes down to it's chemical structure which ends up effecting different receptors in the brain resulting in similarly different experiences.
also different dosages and durations. Major differences come down to bodyload, introspective abilities, dose-response curve, and other things that differ from psychedelic to psychedelic.
I've noticed most RC's (minus 4acodmt) have a "drugged out" undertone. Classic psychs as well as the 4acodmt don't have that, they feel a little more natural imo.
I drunk ordered 100 1200ug 25c NBOMe blotters by accident , never done psychodelics before , i have to say im pretty excited :P
[QUOTE=Tylerr;43359742]Have any of you ever tried any research chemicals? I just tried 25i last night and it was pretty crazy.
Post your experiences and what not.
25i is nuts, the mental fuckup is so intense, and there's tons of crazy audio.[/QUOTE]
"mental fuckup is so intense and there's tons of crazy audio"
Are you sure you did 25i? I've done 25i many times and that doesn't at all sound like any of my experiences. To me, it was extremely clear-headed and rather manic. It was like acid without the headspace, "warmth" and euphoria. Also, the visuals on 25i are significantly stronger and more "invasive". Also, the synesthesia on higher doses is ridiculous.
Best description of 25i [QUOTE=Anubis678;43499274]"mental fuckup is so intense and there's tons of crazy audio"
Are you sure you did 25i? I've done 25i many times and that doesn't at all sound like any of my experiences. To me, it was extremely clear-headed and rather manic. It was like acid without the headspace, "warmth" and euphoria. Also, the visuals on 25i are significantly stronger and more "invasive". Also, the synesthesia on higher doses is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;43390947]I really want to try Ketamine though since it's more of a dissocative compared to MXE[/QUOTE]
Ketamine is the fuckin shit, man. I've been wanting to try MXE, but if it's not as dissociative, I really don't see the point. K is great. Nothing like being clear-headed, but dissociated and physically "drunk"
[editline]11th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=scorpinat;43499321]Best description of 25i[/QUOTE]
The manic psychosis you get on high doses is... fascinating. Overwhelming, but fascinating nonetheless.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;43499274]"mental fuckup is so intense and there's tons of crazy audio"
Are you sure you did 25i? I've done 25i many times and that doesn't at all sound like any of my experiences. To me, it was extremely clear-headed and rather manic. It was like acid without the headspace, "warmth" and euphoria. Also, the visuals on 25i are significantly stronger and more "invasive". Also, the synesthesia on higher doses is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
I've taken 25i twice. The first time I got stuck in recursive thought loops, freaked out, and came close to feeling like killing myself. The visuals were horribly invasive.
The second time it was 'clear headed' but a friend who took it as well got stuck in some bad thought loops and had a freak out. He later recovered but the "mind fuck" was very very strong on him.
Both times they were undoubtedly 25i.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25I-NBOMe#Undesired[/url]
The undesired effects could easily lead to a mind fuck.
Doing a 25i trip tomorrow. The only other psych i've ever done was a high 2nd plat dose of DXM, and even them visuals were on the d/l for me. Any advice to "mentally prepare" myself so to speak? I plan on taking roughly 600ug and peaking in the forest before returning to my house. I'll have my best friend trip sitting me who's done his research.
don't die
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43505027]don't die[/QUOTE]
Seems like a good starting point.
I guess the most important thing is set and setting.
I suppose give 25i a go. But one trip was enough for me. When you go from LSD to 25i it just makes you wish you had actual acid.
Been offered 2C-B but turned it down as I wasn't really in the mood for those kind of effects.
I'd take 2C-E though
i found 2c-b to be extremely underwhelming and boring at 25mg. never tried it again because i can get an NBOMe or acid for the same price
[editline]13th January 2014[/editline]
took 4mg 25c-nboh and 4mg 25i-nboh at a rave on saturday. was fun. the nbohs don't have the terrible side-effects that the nbomes have
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[QUOTE=Anubis678;43528741]NBOMe without the horseshit NBOMe side effects? Sign me the fuck up.[/QUOTE]
i take that back, for the 25c-nboh at least
25c-nboh has the worst side effects of any drug i've taken ever. me and a few mates have tested it on a bunch of different occasions and we all come to the same conclusion. don't take it again.
the 25i-nboh is gold though and literally just a less unpleasant 25i-nbome in terms of subjective effects. doesnt feel like it's hurting your body or frying your brain like the nbome does
[QUOTE=NotYou3;43524687]the nbohs don't have the terrible side-effects that the nbomes have[/QUOTE]nboh's are even less researched than the NBOMe's lol don't be so niave
NBOMe without the horseshit NBOMe side effects? Sign me the fuck up.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43528198]nboh's are even less researched than the NBOMe's lol don't be so niave[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure he wasn't referring to potential danger but rather how the trip is experienced.
4-AcO-DMT and DPT are two of the most tried and tested RCs out there, and I have had the benefit of experiencing both. Would do again.
[QUOTE=ahmedsalaam69;43531019]4-AcO-DMT and DPT are two of the most tried and tested RCs out there, and I have had the benefit of experiencing both. Would do again.[/QUOTE]
4-AcO-DMT gets me too nauseous and confused to be enjoyable tbh.
Will try AL-LAD soon :dance:.
[QUOTE=Amic;43531060]4-AcO-DMT gets me too nauseous and confused to be enjoyable tbh.
Will try AL-LAD soon :dance:.[/QUOTE]
I found it rather sedating, of course I always like to have cannabis with my hallucinogens so there's that.
Funny that now I get HPPD whenever I smoke cannabis :S
[QUOTE=ahmedsalaam69;43531077]I found it rather sedating, of course I always like to have cannabis with my hallucinogens so there's that.
Funny that now I get HPPD whenever I smoke cannabis :S[/QUOTE]
Maybe it was because of slightly too high doses.
First one was 20 mg, then around 13 and third trip was from ~33 mg.
Actually nevermind after 13 miligrams i couldn't even walk for half an hour after ingesting.
It gets better after hour-two tho.
[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;43390947]I've consumed 5 grams of Methoxetamine (MXE) over the course of 1 and a half year. It went on and off, I've had 4 day binges to not consuming any for a few months. I'm just glad I didn't end up like on of them horror stories you read on the Bluelight forum. It's crazy some people go trough a gram in just a day because tolerance just goes trough the roof real fast with that stuff.
I'm not planning on buying MXE anymore though because it's not produced by the same labs as when it was 'good' (up untill March 2012 IIRC). I really want to try Ketamine though since it's more of a dissocative compared to MXE, MXE has this annoying overstimulative comedown which makes it impossible to sleep for hours.[/QUOTE]
I did like 6 grams in a week and I didn't sleep for four fucking days when I came down. MXE is amazing but I have no control with it and can't find another decent vendor so I stopped doing it.
I know this sounds stupid as fuck, but I've been dying to trip lately, I just need to relieve some stress. Does anyone know where I can get $20 worth of some psychedelic research chemical using paypal? :yarr:
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43505027]don't die[/QUOTE]
Eh, its telling thing like that before he does it that would more likely so so kill him.
[QUOTE=Tylerr;43565366]I know this sounds stupid as fuck, but I've been dying to trip lately, I just need to relieve some stress. Does anyone know where I can get $20 worth of some psychedelic research chemical using paypal? :yarr:[/QUOTE]
Bad idea man, trips shouldn't be used in stressful or depressing times. They're not like weed or alcohol where you're guaranteed a good time and stress relief.
You should be in a good state of mind before any trip. Psychedelics are nothing to fuck with. Take caution.
[QUOTE=cody8295;43565636]Bad idea man, trips shouldn't be used in stressful or depressing times. They're not like weed or alcohol where you're guaranteed a good time and stress relief.
You should be in a good state of mind before any trip. Psychedelics are nothing to fuck with. Take caution.[/QUOTE]
I'm aware, I just really wanna trip again one of these days.
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