[QUOTE=RusSlayer;43667748]Hey Tylerr, I don't really understand what looping means. Is it the literal definition?[/QUOTE]
You'll keep thinking the same thoughts, and you'll like constantly say the same thing, i kept saying "huh?" for a good hour or so every like 5 minutes, you'll keep doing the same thing, like looking behind you or something. It's hard to explain, but yeah that's the literal definition.
It feels like it's in a set route.
Like it's supposed to happen. Even if you don't want it to.
I know what you mean.
What do you folks think of peptides?
[QUOTE=Tylerr;43669536]You'll keep thinking the same thoughts, and you'll like constantly say the same thing, i kept saying "huh?" for a good hour or so every like 5 minutes, you'll keep doing the same thing, like looking behind you or something. It's hard to explain, but yeah that's the literal definition.[/QUOTE]
Damn. I always have the same thoughts during the last couple of times I tripped minus the last 3 trips. It was like a carnival ride type of thing, where there was a mad hatter type of character but he was like a raidroad train conductor and he had this lantern thing in his hand it made this really weird annoying sound as if whenever a rollercoaster begins to ascend to the top of a ride. I also always see purple and green. And theres 3 themes for each trip, blue representing moral and ethical good person, green representing greed and evil, and red representing insanity. It's fucking weird man
[QUOTE=RusSlayer;43683346]Damn. I always have the same thoughts during the last couple of times I tripped minus the last 3 trips. It was like a carnival ride type of thing, where there was a mad hatter type of character but he was like a raidroad train conductor and he had this lantern thing in his hand it made this really weird annoying sound as if whenever a rollercoaster begins to ascend to the top of a ride. I also always see purple and green. And theres 3 themes for each trip, blue representing moral and ethical good person, green representing greed and evil, and red representing insanity. It's fucking weird man[/QUOTE]
I find trips are really good at bringing out psychological ideas such as metaphysical archtypes and the collective unconscious and presenting them in something of a physically realized way
in my case I usually get a jester.
It's something of a trickster. He dances around and fucks with my mind in my peripherals, and I can never quite "see" him unless I just allow him to play around.
Personally my trips don't color code, depending on the substance the visuals can be coloured in ridiculous ways but usually the main "theme" if anything is the dichotomy of positive and negative, light and dark, male and female, alpha and beta, leader and follower, creation vs experience, etc etc. It really presents to me spectrums of ideas and concepts in an almost physical form.
I think RC tabs are sold with way too high dosages on them. The 25c capsule snuff cap I got had 800ug, 400ug + weed was enough to send me into a pretty full on trip. I've got tabs of 25b marked at 800ug and from what i've read online a 400ug dosage is a pretty standard dose for most people.
I found that taking a half of a tab, maybe 3/4 of one works fine for me. I think that with 25i I can't take a full tab, it hits me way too intense. Doesn't do that to my friends though.
I've still got 1 tab left, not sure what I should do with it.
[QUOTE=Consciousness;43685828]I find trips are really good at bringing out psychological ideas such as metaphysical archtypes and the collective unconscious and presenting them in something of a physically realized way
in my case I usually get a jester.
It's something of a trickster. He dances around and fucks with my mind in my peripherals, and I can never quite "see" him unless I just allow him to play around.
Personally my trips don't color code, depending on the substance the visuals can be coloured in ridiculous ways but usually the main "theme" if anything is the dichotomy of positive and negative, light and dark, male and female, alpha and beta, leader and follower, creation vs experience, etc etc. It really presents to me spectrums of ideas and concepts in an almost physical form.
I think RC tabs are sold with way too high dosages on them. The 25c capsule snuff cap I got had 800ug, 400ug + weed was enough to send me into a pretty full on trip. I've got tabs of 25b marked at 800ug and from what i've read online a 400ug dosage is a pretty standard dose for most people.[/QUOTE]
Very enlightening. I'm glad I just don't have those type of weird trips. I ended up tripping bad a lot of the time. I get this really rotten vibe to it. I hear buzzing and a rotten banana/pear view to everything. and if its extra scary its yellow and purple.
one thing I love to do after any trip is read up psychological ideas. After my last trip I looked into some of leary's concepts such as the 8 circuit model, as well as some other stuff like systems theory
really nice to see the sort of things i've been leaning towards are already pretty established ideas,
I didn't even know about the jungial archtypes until after that first trip where I met my inner jester
and now I remember why I don't trip solo these days :p
[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;43392994]did MXE get scheduled yet and if not can someone PM me?[/QUOTE]
same here please
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43409968]However it's also more dangerous with frequent use due to bladder problems.[/QUOTE]
It's [I]speculated[/I] to be more dangerous. There is no proof as to whether it actually is or not.
This comes from the creators of MXE claiming that by making it more potent it reduces the risk of interstitial cystitis. Unfortunately, the exact causes of interstitial cystitis are not fully understood so citing this claim as anything more than speculation is rather dangerous in a harm reduction sense.
Bottom line is; don't dose dissociatives on the daily and you'll be dandy.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;43708547]It's [I]speculated[/I] to be more dangerous. There is no proof as to whether it actually is or not.
This comes from the creators of MXE claiming that by making it more potent it reduces the risk of interstitial cystitis. Unfortunately, the exact causes of interstitial cystitis are not fully understood so citing this claim as anything more than speculation is rather dangerous in a harm reduction sense.
Bottom line is; don't dose dissociatives on the daily and you'll be dandy.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, it is speculation, but I highly doubt it's just a big marketing ploy by the producers of the compound as I've seen the same be said by several independent sources/chemists.
And so far, even though MXE has seen immense popularity, from what I know there have been no reports of bladder damage as with ketamine, even among the heaviest of users. I myself underwent a period of everyday use for a few months amounting to a total of 10g consumed by its end and experienced no such symptoms. Granted, I haven't done ketamine to the same degree of excess, but from what I've read I should at least have gotten initial signs of bladder problems (such as feelings of discomfort and/or slight pain) from an equivalent use of K.
Of course this is not indicative of an impossibility for mxe-induced cystitis, but it is a fair assumption to make that the risk is at the very least lessened, one supported by both theoretical speculation and user reports.
However I agree that dissociatives (or any drug for that matter) shouldn't be dosed daily if safety is of the highest concern, and there are other associated risks to consider than just cystitis.
tried again with 25c-nbome, really low dose (between 100-200ug)
had a great time, didn't put myself in an uncomfortable setting or anything...
felt like I could have gone a lot further once I got more acquainted to it with low dose
Has anybody heard of that Welsh research initiative? Where people send in chemicals and they get tested?
I've just gotten my hands on a tablet of 2ci.(As the source says) It has a picture of a communist symbol on it.
I love it.
Shared it between 3 people because of my intense anxiety. After being mellowed out by being with them I came home.
Here I am. Not feeling much, shouldn't have shared the damn thing. Although It's been an hour and 30 minutes since.
We know it was something, because it made all of our tounges numb and tasted very strongly like.. I can't even describe the taste, it was very cold chilling.
[QUOTE=geogzm;43736180]Has anybody heard of that Welsh research initiative? Where people send in chemicals and they get tested?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ecstasydata.org/[/url]
I was thinking about buying some, but I was wondering, has any respectable organization or scientist actually researched these chemicals? I mean, couldn't these end up being as damaging and addicting as drugs like crack or heroin?
[QUOTE=yy958;43763768]I was thinking about buying some, but I was wondering, has any respectable organization or scientist actually researched these chemicals? I mean, couldn't these end up being as damaging and addicting as drugs like crack or heroin?[/QUOTE]
Theyre chemical analogues of chemicals that are fairly well understood.
[QUOTE=BurningPlayd0h;43776279]Theyre chemical analogues of chemicals that are fairly well understood.[/QUOTE]
Did some extra research, thanks. Apparently that's been causing some controversy.
Yeah the problem is the ones that are analogues of or related to drugs that CAN cause dependency or OD. For example some kids here got some white powder thinking it was 2C-B or I, railed a bunch without ANY measurement. Well they went absolutely insane, seized and later died. Turns out it was actually Bromo-Dragonfly which is active at VERY low doses and therefore has a low LD50 too.
[QUOTE=BurningPlayd0h;43780797]Yeah the problem is the ones that are analogues of or related to drugs that CAN cause dependency or OD. For example some kids here got some white powder thinking it was 2C-B or I, railed a bunch without ANY measurement. Well they went absolutely insane, seized and later died. Turns out it was actually Bromo-Dragonfly which is active at VERY low doses and therefore has a low LD50 too.[/QUOTE]
Or an NBOME which is active at microgram doses
anyone dealing with RC's should learn to do a reagent test and have a milligram scale.
don't be idiots.
Anybody here have experience with 25b-nbome?
It's gotten pretty popular around here and all my friends say that, while it's way more intense, it's more enjoyable than both 25i and 25c. All the tabs going around are 1mg
I found these dosages on drugs-forum
Threshold - 100ug
Mild- 100-300
Strong - 350-700
Very strong - 700ug+
Seems kind of crazy to dose tabs so high when the dosage range is lower than other nbomes. I feel like somebody's going to get killed or something.
yeah just take half a tab if you try it. It should be nice, it's the nbome equivelent of 2C-B, but i imagine it's still unique in it's own way
I had 10 tabs but unfortunately didn't even get a chance to try one, but everyone that tried it loved it.
I tried 4-Aco-MET and think its the most visual psychedelic experience I have had. I have tried 4-ACO, LSD, and both at the same time and neither compares. Colors are ridiculously enhanced, tracers everywhere, mixing of the senses, music sounds absolutely amazing compared to other psychedelics, and not physically overwhelming. I was on the swings and it felt like an orgasm.. just absolutely amazing. Not a very "deep" chemical, but nonetheless a very fun and amazing experience, lots of laughing. Very profound hallucinations, audio and visual.
who is swim
[QUOTE=Dori;43925455]who is swim[/QUOTE]
someone who is not me, maybe to avoid incrimination.
[QUOTE=fox '09;43926174]someone who is not me, maybe to avoid incrimination.[/QUOTE]
Trust me, using SWIM is not going to protect you in any way
also it makes your writing harder to decipher
This swim guy sounds chill, give him a fp invite
I have a quick question pertaining to RCs.
My friend got tabs of an RC and was told that it is chemically the same as traditional acid.
What I was wondering is if this is possible, or if the kid was pulling my friends legs. He took a hit of it around me and described it as kind of the same headspace (i.e: he wasn't going to freak over something like he would on shrooms) and told me he was getting heavy visiuls like beams of light going across the room, repeating patterns, and lots of colors.
So at the very least I'd like to know what ot may have been before I do it with him.
[QUOTE=HyoMonkys;43934064]I have a quick question pertaining to RCs.
My friend got tabs of an RC and was told that it is chemically the same as traditional acid.
What I was wondering is if this is possible, or if the kid was pulling my friends legs. He took a hit of it around me and described it as kind of the same headspace (i.e: he wasn't going to freak over something like he would on shrooms) and told me he was getting heavy visiuls like beams of light going across the room, repeating patterns, and lots of colors.
So at the very least I'd like to know what ot may have been before I do it with him.[/QUOTE]
RC's aren't chemically the same as "Traditional acid"
LSD is a lysergide, most RC's are phenethylamines or typtamines.
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