it could be LSZ or AL-LAD, if it's chemically similar..
chances are it's an n-bome though.
I'd never buy unless I knew what was on it, personally, that way I at least know what i'm getting myself into
99% chance it's an nbome.
anybody here have any experience with 345-nbome?
i'm curious, erowid doesn't have many reports.
All I can find about it is that it's NBOME-Mescaline, with similar effects to mescaline.
[QUOTE=cody8295;43937125]All I can find about it is that it's NBOME-Mescaline, with similar effects to mescaline.[/QUOTE]
yeah, in particular why i was askin'
if you can take this stuff and have mescaline like effects without the bodyload as some people seem to report, i'm def interested
there's no real dosing scale atm though..
[QUOTE=Lebowski;43937204]yeah, in particular why i was askin'
if you can take this stuff and have mescaline like effects without the bodyload as some people seem to report, i'm def interested
there's no real dosing scale atm though..[/QUOTE]
Not to mention it's a very clear analog of Mescaline, so it's going to be hard to acquire in the US.
I'll probably just end up actually cooking up a cactus.
Well then it's going to be real mescaline. I don't even know where I would begin to look for NBOME-Mescaline
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;43926487]Trust me, using SWIM is not going to protect you in any way
also it makes your writing harder to decipher[/QUOTE]
thats probably true. I changed my post
If my opinion is worth anything, it sounds just like an NBOMe.
[editline]17th February 2014[/editline]
Also, does anyone know if mixing LSD with 25i-NBOMe would result in a great time or a visit from the magical seizure fairy.
I've read up on it. It's not going to cause anything horrible health wise (maybe some vascular constriction) but apparently it "isn't too fun", and "takes away from the acid experience". This is super uncharted territory here too. I'm tossing up if i should just drop 300ug of 25i roughly 2 hours into the trip. I kind of want to do more acid, but my friends will be doing 25i, and one guy will be doing acid. On one hand i don't want the guy on acid to be the only guy on acid, on the other hand i'm actually introducing two friends to 25i. I'm going to be the most experienced tripper there so i've got responsibility. To make things worse i did a 600ug dose of 25i last Wednesday, and i'll be tripping this saturday. Tolerance might factor in here. If anyone wants to chime in that'd be fucking tops.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;43944959]I've read up on it. It's not going to cause anything horrible health wise (maybe some vascular constriction) but apparently it "isn't too fun", and "takes away from the acid experience". This is super uncharted territory here too. I'm tossing up if i should just drop 300ug of 25i roughly 2 hours into the trip. I kind of want to do more acid, but my friends will be doing 25i, and one guy will be doing acid. On one hand i don't want the guy on acid to be the only guy on acid, on the other hand i'm actually introducing two friends to 25i. I'm going to be the most experienced tripper there so i've got responsibility. To make things worse i did a 600ug dose of 25i last Wednesday, and i'll be tripping this saturday. Tolerance might factor in here. If anyone wants to chime in that'd be fucking tops.[/QUOTE]
I think acid would be fine with 25i at a low dose of 300ug. Do it for science!
[QUOTE=The Aussie;43944959]I've read up on it. It's not going to cause anything horrible health wise (maybe some vascular constriction) but apparently it "isn't too fun", and "takes away from the acid experience". This is super uncharted territory here too. I'm tossing up if i should just drop 300ug of 25i roughly 2 hours into the trip. I kind of want to do more acid, but my friends will be doing 25i, and one guy will be doing acid. On one hand i don't want the guy on acid to be the only guy on acid, on the other hand i'm actually introducing two friends to 25i. I'm going to be the most experienced tripper there so i've got responsibility. To make things worse i did a 600ug dose of 25i last Wednesday, and i'll be tripping this saturday. Tolerance might factor in here. If anyone wants to chime in that'd be fucking tops.[/QUOTE]
Do the sid, walk them through the 25i
I tried 60mg of 4-Aco Met, then 1 hour 30 minutes in dosed another 25mg. So, 85mg in total.. I thought I'd share this, because its been my favorite trip so far.
I've had intense psychedelic experiences, namely 77mg of 4-Aco-DMT , which had me writhing in euphoria and unable to walk or get off the floor, minutes felt like hours.. But even then, my perception of reality was still quite normal. Things looked very distorted, but not on the level of this...
My room looked like a two dimensional plane, the door was moving around and large objects were moving very intensely. When I think visuals, I usually think patterns, and 2 dimensional surfaces having motion, walls breathing etc. But to see large objects do this is a very amazing thing.
I was not scared at any point either. Just very calming. Made me rethink my entire life , feel like being an entirely different, better person. I've been pretty disconnected from reality, and isolating myself for years and have been pretty burnt out by life, for various long term, and real reasons, but this gave me a lot of life.
To trip this hard when you have such negative feelings on life, one may think you would come out of it being extremely depressed/suicidal.. But for me, as I said, put so much life back into me.
I find this chemical to be a very easy psychedelic. Acid to me is pretty confusing.. more recreational. Still insightful though, and has its place.
4-Aco-DMT (kinda like shrooms) is a very deep chemical, but can be very confronting. Confronting in a way that you HAVE to accept the revelations, not something you can fight and delude yourself. At least, that's how i feel.
4-Aco-MET, has a very easy bodyload. Not full body like shrooms/4-aco-dmt. Its headspace is very comfortable, I had almost no paranoia, and it let me go through my problems in a light, easy, slow, way. The duration of an intense psychedelic experience will eventually resolve/confront those problems, but this was a lot slower. I find shrooms/4-aco-dmt to be very fast moving, lots of revelations, very fast.
This just feels very natural. Beautiful. +++
[QUOTE=fox '09;44006191]I tried 60mg of 4-Aco Met, then 1 hour 30 minutes in dosed another 25mg. So, 85mg in total.. I thought I'd share this, because its been my favorite trip so far.
I've had intense psychedelic experiences, namely 77mg of 4-Aco-DMT , which had me writhing in euphoria and unable to walk or get off the floor, minutes felt like hours.. But even then, my perception of reality was still quite normal. Things looked very distorted, but not on the level of this...
My room looked like a two dimensional plane, the door was moving around and large objects were moving very intensely. When I think visuals, I usually think patterns, and 2 dimensional surfaces having motion, walls breathing etc. But to see large objects do this is a very amazing thing.
I was not scared at any point either. Just very calming. Made me rethink my entire life , feel like being an entirely different, better person. I've been pretty disconnected from reality, and isolating myself for years and have been pretty burnt out by life, for various long term, and real reasons, but this gave me a lot of life.
To trip this hard when you have such negative feelings on life, one may think you would come out of it being extremely depressed/suicidal.. But for me, as I said, put so much life back into me.
I find this chemical to be a very easy psychedelic. Acid to me is pretty confusing.. more recreational. Still insightful though, and has its place.
4-Aco-DMT (kinda like shrooms) is a very deep chemical, but can be very confronting. Confronting in a way that you HAVE to accept the revelations, not something you can fight and delude yourself. At least, that's how i feel.
4-Aco-MET, has a very easy bodyload. Not full body like shrooms/4-aco-dmt. Its headspace is very comfortable, I had almost no paranoia, and it let me go through my problems in a light, easy, slow, way. The duration of an intense psychedelic experience will eventually resolve/confront those problems, but this was a lot slower. I find shrooms/4-aco-dmt to be very fast moving, lots of revelations, very fast.
This just feels very natural. Beautiful. +++[/QUOTE]
4-aco-dmt is literally my favorite RC. Doesn't even feel like an RC. Chemically, it is psilecetin and in theory it metabolizes into psilocin (same thing psilocybin metabolizes into).
I've never tried 4-aco-met but I have tried 4-ho-met and it sounds similar to what you described.
I prefer 4acodeems to the met because the deems allows my ego to dissolve as well as give a full psychedelic experience. It feels "wholesome" i would say.
In contrast, the met always felt "candied-out" to me, my friends have described this effect as well. Its not to say its not good — in fact it gives some of the most entrancing and vivid visuals ever, but it doesn't allow me to fully dissolve my ego which at some points gets strange. Something about the visual intensity of a reborn universe but a fully intact ego doesn't feel quite right to me. However, in some settings I love candy tripping :]
I agree. 4-Aco-DMT for me was my first true, "full" psychedelic experience. I took 77mg, and had NO idea what I was getting into. Unlike acid, you can sleep on the comedown.. so waking up sober was very strange. Must of had powerful fucking dreams.
Though, even at that dose, the next day things were more or less normal. With 4-Aco-MET, the day after I still was tripping lightly, with slight CEVs. In fact, for the entire week I had very light CEVs, and some very minor open eye visuals.
[QUOTE=fox '09;44017250]I agree. 4-Aco-DMT for me was my first true, "full" psychedelic experience. I took 77mg, and had NO idea what I was getting into. Unlike acid, you can sleep on the comedown.. so waking up sober was very strange. Must of had powerful fucking dreams.
Though, even at that dose, the next day things were more or less normal. With 4-Aco-MET, the day after I still was tripping lightly, with slight CEVs. In fact, for the entire week I had very light CEVs, and some very minor open eye visuals.[/QUOTE]
I've noticed most RC's (besides aco dmt) give me some minor hppd for a week+
I love that sleeping is possible on the aco dmt. Essentially it can throw you into the 11th dimension for 3.5 hours and then comedown and sleep within an hour (atleast insuff'd, even if at 50+mg). It's great.
If I wanted to get into RCs, am I only gonna be able to get them from silkroad-type sites on the deepweb? Or like, are certain unscheduled ones easier to get?
[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;44047494]If I wanted to get into RCs, am I only gonna be able to get them from silkroad-type sites on the deepweb? Or like, are certain unscheduled ones easier to get?[/QUOTE]
You can buy a few of the unscheduled ones online, but sometimes a vendor will only sell it in bulk (KG's at a time) or to a licensed industrial company. It's hard to find certain ones and the DEA/Customs can still confiscate it and test it, meaning you'll likely never see it again.
Phenibut is a tranquilizer that was invented in Soviet Russia.
3-meo-pcp is where its at.
Friend had a tab of 25i and loved it. Said it was better than ecstasy.
I had 25i, spent the rest of the day feeling like fucking shit and groggy.
Turns out I was coming down with a cold and 25i perfectly lined up to amplify all of the shitty feelings of it.
If she said 25i was better than any other drug she's probably already mentally dead from that drug
Maybe she had a really pleasant experience and genuinely feels that she enjoys 25i more than ecstasy.
25i was fun but i'm never touching it again, honestly. I just don't trust it. I'd much rather stick to good old mary jane. On the other hand, i'm looking to branch out into more rc's. Anyone know of anyway i can 'browse' through a list of common rcs or something?
25i was like a very mystical spiked visualized acid, the trip made me feel like a walking corpse , and had me messed up for about a week
I only had good experiences with nbomes personally.
[QUOTE=Jimmymi;46440167]3-meo-pcp is where its at.[/QUOTE]
TT
Does anyone here have any experience with MXM?
[QUOTE=FalseLogic;46482313]Does anyone here have any experience with MXM?[/QUOTE]
I haven't, but i've read it's closer to ketamine than mxe, and it's more trippy than mxe.
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