• Nihilism and the Meaning Of Life.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;33185768]But you would hit a dude without being attacked first? Lol.[/QUOTE] No.
[QUOTE=AK'z;33185332]Anyway, I still see nothing to gain from this thread if it is about rejecting all speculations. There is use of making your own beliefs, but rejecting every other mindset is not going to help you build on your central belief system.[/QUOTE] If the speculation is found to be logically inconsistent it's overstayed its welcome. If I point out your argument is crap (which I have) you should acknowledge that and attempt a rebut rather than pass off your shit as "experimental grammar" (which you still haven't defined).
[QUOTE=AK'z;33185759]It's a good thing nobody actually cared thereafter and the discussion went on. That song is barely 2 minutes anyway. Don't Leave Me Now is the most overlooked though, what did you think?[/QUOTE] Don't Leave Me Now is very good but on its own it's really worthless. it has to be paired with One Of My Turns to get its full potential [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;33185964]If the speculation is found to be logically inconsistent it's overstayed its welcome. If I point out your argument is crap (which I have) you should acknowledge that rather than pass off your shit as "experimental grammar" (which you still haven't defined).[/QUOTE] Ba-ZINNNNGG
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;33185967]Don't Leave Me Now is very good but on its own it's really worthless. it has to be paired with One Of My Turns to get its full potential [/QUOTE] That's true.
[QUOTE=Vasili;33181255] I really can't be bothered to write out a speech about why nothingness is not a bad thing, Alan Watts explains it better than me anyway, people fear nothingness because of its stigma rather than what it is. [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] If you believe in theories like the big bang, everything you see around you today was created because of nothingness.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;33185145] This is an oft-repeated lie. Realising that the Universe has no objective meaning or morality system does not mean that you can't form your own subjective moral viewpoints, which can certainly include things like altriusm. Not only that, subjective moral viewpoints [b]do not have to be arbitrary.[/b] [/QUOTE] I understand that you disagree, but the joke was kind of funny and still not as retarded or untruthful as you guys are saying that I have to accept that death into nothing is okay and that nothing is really satisfyingly right, like you guys say, is even still at least initially depressing (for many, in case it wasn't for you) [url=http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2244#comic] . [/url]
[QUOTE=heathendevil;33194782] that I have to accept that death into nothing is okay and that nothing is really satisfyingly right, like you guys say, is even still at least initially depressing (for many, in case it wasn't for you) [/QUOTE] I think it entirely depends on your up bringing, there are a lot of Buddhists nations that generally are not so fearful of it as a whole. You can either believe that all is dust or all is nothing.
Meaning is subjective. What is meaningful to some is meaningless to others. To assume that life has no meaning just because you only took the objective analysis into account is, in my opinion, a very shallow way to view the world.
[QUOTE=Vasili;33181255] I really can't be bothered to write out a speech about why nothingness is not a bad thing, Alan Watts explains it better than me anyway, people fear nothingness because of its stigma rather than what it is[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'd have to agree. To me, the lack of objective "meaning" in life is liberating more than anything. What isn't enticing about being able to define your own existence? [editline]10th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Drsalvador;33170521] I have no fucking idea what you just said because it seems to me like the kind of stuff you see scrawled on a wall in an alleyway in shit. Really. I mean, What process goes through your head to type that kind of stuff out?[/QUOTE] To be honest, it seems like you were both going about different ways of saying more or less the same thing.
I think there are objective positives and negatives, suffering is a manifestation of a negative sensation, and that sensation isn't "subjective" it is a very real negative feeling, you all know it because you have experienced it as a sentient creature. In my opinion you can possibly come to a conclusion from that, removing suffering as a meaningful thing to do. That is just my opinion, i have not thought about this subject much and i probably should.
[QUOTE=flyguy88;33259273]I think there are objective positives and negatives, suffering is a manifestation of a negative sensation, and that sensation isn't "subjective" it is a very real negative feeling, you all know it because you have experienced it as a sentient creature. In my opinion you can possibly come to a conclusion from that, removing suffering as a meaningful thing to do. That is just my opinion, i have not thought about this subject much and i probably should.[/QUOTE] Well technically, it's still subjective, but it's a subjective fact. When I burn my hand on a stove, the pain I feel is subjective - no one else can feel it. But that doesn't make it any less true.
Life has no inherent meaning. This may sound like a grim outlook, but really, it's the truth. The closest thing to a point that life has is finding that point, which is different for everyone. You make your own purpose, maybe you'll find your purpose is to help people, or to gain knowledge, or wealth. Since we have no reason to believe that there's a higher purpose, might as well just make yourself happy and try to make everyone else around you feel the same. That's the meaning of life.
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