[QUOTE=bobste;17538764]doesn't matter, we won and are better than you in every way and you can't prove me wrong no matter what
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you do realized that is shopped right[/QUOTE]
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:raise:
Actual Physical removal!
It's like Fake Physical removal but not really :O
I've never been to pittsburg but I see absolutely no reason for the police forcing dispersal.
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Unlawful assembly usually refers to riots. This is by no means a riot.
[editline]05:52PM[/editline]
There's like fifty people and one with a megaphone.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17539066]I've never been to pittsburg but I see absolutely no reason for the police forcing dispersal.
[editline]05:51PM[/editline]
Unlawful assembly usually refers to riots. This is by no means a riot.[/QUOTE]
Don't question the police actions, facepunch won't be happy.
[QUOTE=Kamikaze;17539095]Don't question the police actions, facepunch won't be happy.[/QUOTE]
I don't like these New World Order weirdos any more than the next guy but FP is letting their RepubliRage get the better of them. There was nothing in there from what I saw that justified riot police and the closing of entire streets. Any minor crimes could have easily been addressed by individual officers or at very least a group of riot cops who held the defensive, as with most protests. These cops went on the offensive, something that was entirely unnecessary.
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[QUOTE=ScoutKing;17534489]Legally what the police is doing is legal.
You may protest "PEACEFULLY!"
Ive seen videos where the protesters in THIS protest take a garbage can and try to ram it against the police.
So what the police are doing does not void peoples rights.
I side with the police.[/QUOTE]
Individual crimes need to be addressed on an individual basis. Riot cops should only come in when arresting someone who assaults police with a trash can aggravates the entire mob. From what I've seen these folk didn't particularly care for the violent ones, so arresting violent ones should be of no particular challenge.
Riot cops should have been on the standby, not actively treating the protest as though it were a riot. Honestly all they did was do even more to PROVOKE a riot. If you were a protester just speaking your peace and a line of metrocops came marching down at you like some shit out of a dystopia, wouldn't YOU get awfully pissed at the cops for overreacting to peaceful assembly?
They need to be very cautious with the sorts of actions they take. This will be entirely counterproductive in the long run. It fuels their arguments, and it justifies their protest entirely.
[QUOTE=Lankist;17539201]I don't like these New World Order weirdos any more than the next guy but FP is letting their RepubliRage get the better of them. There was nothing in there from what I saw that justified riot police and the closing of entire streets. Any minor crimes could have easily been addressed by individual officers or at very least a group of riot cops who held the defensive, as with most protests. These cops went on the offensive, something that was entirely unnecessary.
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Individual crimes need to be addressed on an individual basis. Riot cops should only come in when arresting someone who assaults police with a trash can aggravates the entire mob. From what I've seen these folk didn't particularly care for the violent ones, so arresting violent ones should be of no particular challenge.
Riot cops should have been on the standby, not actively treating the protest as though it were a riot. Honestly all they did was do even more to PROVOKE a riot.[/QUOTE]
Permit, Permit, Permit, Permit, Permit.
Did i mention you need a [B][I]PERMIT[/I][/B] to assemble in large numbers so you don't get out of hand and police officers can be assigned to watch over and protect you encase it does get out of hand? If they had a permit to assemble this all would have been avoided.
[QUOTE=OvB;17539309]Permit, Permit, Permit, Permit, Permit.
Did i mention you need a [B][I]PERMIT[/I][/B] to assemble in large numbers so you don't get out of hand and police officers can be assigned to watch over and protect you encase it does get out of hand? If they had a permit to assemble this all would have been avoided.[/QUOTE]
That is local level legislation and is entirely unjust in my eyes.
There isn't a federal level permit required and I honestly don't give a fuck what the city wants to make them do.
[QUOTE=bobste;17538764]doesn't matter, we won and are better than you in every way and you can't prove me wrong no matter what[/QUOTE]
Are all people from the oify sucky trolls like you? Try harder.
When I get into power I will make all out police look like Combine metrocops.
By the by not all cities require a permit.
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Rate dumb all you want but that's the fact of the matter.
[editline]06:11PM[/editline]
Also quite a number of these groups WERE granted permits by court order.
[url]http://www.pittnews.com/node/19961[/url]
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But no, go ahead with your I DON'T LIKE THEM SO THIS IS OKAY attitude while the rest of us look at this rationally.
Those cops really overreacted, why did they act so 1984ish
I may be a bit biased, considering the sort of side with the meaning behind the protests (not the NWO bullshit fanatics) but the cops certainly overreacted in this video.
[QUOTE=Vasili;17536691]If it wasn't for the British you'd be saying that in French.[/QUOTE]
If the colonists defeated the British, I'm more than sure they could have taken on the french is they really had to.
Watching these pictures reminds me of the G20 protests last year in London.
I remember watching footage on the BBC of police officers being totally and absolutely overwhelmed by just literally hoards of people in the streets of London's bank districts.
If only they had the equipment that the police officers are seen wearing here.
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They should have used horses during the protests in London last year.
God damn...
Ugh, I wish they could just beat up anyone with a megaphone, that guy is so annoying and stupid. Him and everyone else there. They don't realize what they're doing actually is illegal.
"Caution - New World Order ahead!"
God dammit...
lmao lolbertarians
[QUOTE=KarlHeinrichMarx;17524559]What the fuck are the cops doing?
There are people on the sidewalks, not doing anything unlawful, having a lawful assembly. Then the cops "close" the street, and a [I]few[/I] of the people end up in the street. So that's what, a few tickets for jay-walking? Some guy with a blowhorn, that's one count of disturbing the peace, and then maybe a few others who are screaming, but the cops are being loud as fuck too.[/QUOTE]
It was an unlawful assembly
They cut out the part where the cops announced it over the loudspeaker and asked everyone to leave
Holy shit, when that van pulled up I was half expecting Robo Cop to come up and start fucking shit up.
[QUOTE=DPennington;17525059]Look over the "G20 protestors in Pennsylvania met by resistance from riot police" in the News section and "G20 Protest videos" in VFMKC. As we've established there, you need permit to assemble in large groups, you must be under police control and surveillance while assembling, and you must not perform any violent action. These people assembling here without a permit blocks traffic, disturbs the peace, they are not confined to a specific area, they are not confined to a public area, without police control they are able to move anywhere they want, could be attacked by opposing persons, or attack opposing person...even if they aren't doing anything violent, many, many people in the protests were. Any one of those people could do something violent. Mob mentality could set in. Even if none of them do, then for their own safety, to be kept away from or seperate from those who do act violently.
The man with the loudspeaker is wrong- the actions by police are not unconstitutional. You have the freedom to assemble, but like all freedoms, there are limits and restrictions for safety and order. You cannot yell fire in a crowded room or slander someone's name even though you have freedom of speech. The constitution is only the ground rules, it's the laws we add upon those that we live by. The constitution says nothing about murder- should we let murderers go unpunished? The constitution does not have the Miranda rights- but aren't you glad you must be read your rights before questioning? There is nothing fucked up here- all it is is an out of control situation being handled efficiently by police in an attempt to prevent damage to people, property, and business and to uphold order so nothing turns into a riot.[/QUOTE]
There's a word for that, it's called [b]FASCISM[/b].
We should be able to assemble and say whatever we want as long as we aren't on private property. The Constitution gives no right to the government to disperse people for peaceful assembly.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;17592159]We should be able to assemble and say whatever we want as long as we aren't on private property. The Constitution gives no right to the government to disperse people for peaceful assembly.[/QUOTE]
No, but the United States legal code does
[QUOTE=TH89;17592178]No, but the United States legal code does[/QUOTE]
The US Legal Code < US Constitution.
How do you figure?
[QUOTE=TH89;17592227]How do you figure?[/QUOTE]
The Constitution is the ultimate document as far as the US government should be concerned. It says every right the government has. Everything else is secondary to it. They just broke the first amendment.
[quote]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. [/quote]
They prohibited the right of the people to peaceably assemble.
I started laughing when robo-swat truck rolled up and started talking. Am I crazy? :P
No idea what this shit is about, but im on the police's side
[QUOTE=evilweazel;17592452]No idea what this shit is about, but im on the police's side[/QUOTE]
I have no idea what this Holocaust shit is about, but I'm on Hitler's side.
I laughed how some idiot screamed out "You don't have that right!" when the Speaker system thing said they must disperse. Idiot, the city voted him in for that kind of power.
Most of the protestors are some butt-hurt anarchists, anti-capitalists, and just people who want to fit in. $100 that guy with the megaphone doesn't live in Pennsylvania he just flew in.
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