the Art Appreciation Thread - General

Dali is "Dicks, dicks everywhere" and I never liked giger.

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;27451081]Dali is "Dicks, dicks everywhere" and I never liked giger.[/QUOTE] fffffuckin' heresy

What can I do, his work is very impressive, especially his litographical stuff but I don't like it. Beksinski is for me.

Somethings I want on my wall. [img]http://www.geek-art.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/poster_flash_by_herobaka.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.geek-art.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/poster_batman_by_herobaka.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.geek-art.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/poster_green_lantern_by_herobaka.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.geek-art.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/poster_superman_by_herobaka.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.geek-art.net/?p=6941[/url]

Superheroes! Lens Flare edition!

I'd way prefer to see just the cartoon drawings without all that overlaid crap. [editline]17th January 2011[/editline] Looks like posters made of paper-thin denim.

some pretty crazy animation work, don't have to be a flowerchild to appreciate it [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhheiPTdZCw&feature=player_embedded#![/media]

That was trippy

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;27477604]Superheroes! Lens Flare edition![/QUOTE] now that u pointed it out it's all i see aaa get rid of them theyre RUINING IT that and the dirty poster paper texture is a little too strong [editline]20th January 2011[/editline] and its too dark at the bottom that was a bad choice [editline]20th January 2011[/editline] that guy needs 2 wise up

[QUOTE=Porn0graphix;27449706] Apart from that, Salvador Dali is the shit. This is the crazy bastard. [img_thumb]http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/ob/dali/DaliMustache.jpg[/img_thumb] Famous for such pictures as; [img_thumb]http://emptyeasel.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/thepersistenceofmemorybysalvadordali.jpg[/img_thumb] I dont really have any favorites because they're all so good in their own way, but I'll pick out a few good ones. [img_thumb]http://www.storybytes.com/images/a-dali/fullsize/flight-of-bee.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://authenticsociety.com/article/img/salvadordali/SwansReflectingElephants(bySalvadorDali).jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Totally agree with that. Was always fascinated by "The persistence of memory", and when I looked up more of his works, I was just blown away. His stuff is so crazy yet so detailed, it leaves me speechless. A week ago I saw one of his works in real life, "The Pharmacist of Ampurdan in Search of Absolutely Nothing" (you just gotta love the titles). It's incredible small, but if you'd stand a foot away, it looked like a photography on some parts. Truly amazing. I really like photographies by Jeff Wall. [media]http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/jeff_wall/images/splash_img.jpg [url]http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/jeffwall/image/roomguide/rm6_insomnia_lrg.jpg[/url][/media]

Jacob Collins, contemporary artist (works in graphite and oil paint): [img]http://www.jacobcollinspaintings.com/images/malefigure01.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.jacobcollinspaintings.com/images/malefigure201.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.jacobcollinspaintings.com/images/recliningnude01.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.jacobcollinspaintings.com/images/youngwomanpainting01.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.jacobcollinspaintings.com/images/candace01.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.jacobcollinspaintings.com/images/anthony01.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.jacobcollinspaintings.com/images/susan01.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.jacobcollinspaintings.com/images/attributesofarts01.jpg[/img]

damn it, those are photos!

[QUOTE=Maya2008;27534220]damn it, those are photos![/QUOTE] Lol, he only paints directly from life. He despises using photos as reference. [editline]20th January 2011[/editline] Also he hates it when people say his stuff looks like photos. But I understand what you mean, his stuff is amazing, probably one of the very best realist artists working right now.

Time for some graffiti art: Shepard Fairey [img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/512917423_9c949194df.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.individualsole.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/obey-peace-guard-print.jpg[/img] [img]http://theworldsbestever.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/shepard-fairey-duality-3-al-rockoff.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.graffiti.org/la/mural_echo_park.jpg[/img] [img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/3279465109_e37b94d6a9.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=cdejong;27533780]Jacob Collins, contemporary artist (works in graphite and oil paint):[/QUOTE] He's good with realism, but it'd be more impressive if he'd made stuff from head.

[QUOTE=cdejong;27534408]Also he hates it when people say his stuff looks like photos. But I understand what you mean, his stuff is amazing, probably one of the very best realist artists working right now.[/QUOTE] Hahaha, maybe he should stop painting so realistically then.

I'd take "your painting looks like a photo" as a compliment, that's an achievement to be proud of.

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Theo_van_Doesburg_Counter-CompositionV_%281924%29.jpg[/img] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/%27Boon%27_oil_on_canvas_painting_by_James_Brooks%2C_1957%2C_Tate_Gallery.jpg[/img] Goddamn I love abstract expressionism

[QUOTE=Miss Tiki;27530978]Totally agree with that. Was always fascinated by "The persistence of memory", and when I looked up more of his works, I was just blown away. His stuff is so crazy yet so detailed, it leaves me speechless. A week ago I saw one of his works in real life, "The Pharmacist of Ampurdan in Search of Absolutely Nothing" (you just gotta love the titles). It's incredible small, but if you'd stand a foot away, it looked like a photography on some parts. Truly amazing.[/QUOTE] I used to look at the pictures when I was a child, also fascinated by them. There's so much to take in when looking at one picture of his, little things here and there, so in-depth and the fact that most of his paintings are done by hand is pretty impressive too. Dali is my all time favorite artist and always will be, I'd love to visit the Dali Museum in Barcelona, Spain :3

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;27536622]He's good with realism, but it'd be more impressive if he'd made stuff from head.[/QUOTE] He doesn't want to make stuff from his head. He models himself after the greats of the 19th century academic tradition, like Gerome, Bouguereau, Bonnat, etc. None of them drew out of their heads either. If you want to make this kind of work, drawing out of your head is not going to help... you can never ever paint as good as Jacob can from life as anyone can from his or her head, that'd be impossible. [editline]21st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=daijitsu;27539536]I'd take "your painting looks like a photo" as a compliment, that's an achievement to be proud of.[/QUOTE] For some, not for Jacob (or me). If you notice, real life doesn't look like a photo. Photos distort values, colors, hue shifts across form, and even basic drawing. If your work looks like a photo you are not well trained in the classical arts. Classical and neo-classical art does not look like photography, and it is not meant to do so. It transcends photography and models itself after real life, which is much more beautiful than copying a machine made photo.

[img]http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/013/f/0/__boy_wonder___by_riingo-d374wvo.png[/img] [url=http://riingo.deviantart.com/]Ringo[/url] [img]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/061/d/6/d625f24f6c2db7dcd03847f3fd7cf675.jpg[/img] [img]http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs25/f/2008/128/a/7/a711d4cfa82f5eea4d5e9b6e55b8d0bc.jpg[/img] [img]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/185/f/1/f1628ad044ebbcf83641934f802b4cd9.jpg[/img] [url=http://wildlifehoodoo.deviantart.com/]wildlifehoodoo[/url] Such glorious work.

[QUOTE=Lonestriper;27539882][img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Theo_van_Doesburg_Counter-CompositionV_%281924%29.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/%27Boon%27_oil_on_canvas_painting_by_James_Brooks%2C_1957%2C_Tate_Gallery.jpg[/img_thumb] Goddamn I love abstract expressionism[/QUOTE] See, this is the kind of art that I just don't "get." I look at it and all I see it some colored squares, or a bunch of paint-splatters. I'm sure I'll be torn apart for saying this, but know that I'm not saying it to be offensive or to provoke anybody. I've heard a thousand different definitions of art, and as far as I can determine, art is any expression of ideal or emotion or fact made real in a new way, no matter the medium. I can certainly respect that everybody has their own way of expressing themselves, and that art speaks to everybody differently, but this style of art, "abstract expressionism," just totally goes over my head. It's pleasing to look at I suppose, but if it's expressing anything other than pretty shapes and colors, then I've missed the point. I once painted a single small circle in the center of the paper when I forgot to do an assignment for art class in high school. I did it jokingly, figuring I'd get my "F" and lick my wounds, but the teacher went nuts over it. I smiled and nodded at her praise of thinking outside the box, of expressing such a bold message in so simple a way, but there was no great artistic revelation in me with that dot. The only message I was trying to portray was how silly it seemed to me that images like those above are toted as complex and emotional pieces of art, and she either praised me because she got the point, or because the irony of that painting was lost on her. I'm sorry if I offended anybody, it's not my intention. I hate to sound like an art snob, because truth be told I'm not as passionate about visual art as most of you undoubtedly are. I just figured I'd weigh in, try to add something worthwhile.

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;27536622]He's good with realism, but it'd be more impressive if he'd made stuff from head.[/QUOTE] Jacob's work is so great that you have to say it would be better if he made it from his head. Who the fuck gives a crap if he did it from life or his head? All the best artists worked from life! ALL OF THEM. Michelangelo, Rubens, Da Vinci, Bronzino, Bouguereau, Bonnat, Sargent, Repin, Rembrandt, just to name a few. There is a reason they did that, which is failed on you and others who are so obsessed with the cheap tricks in digital art that you can't appreciate real drawing. Yes, most digital art from the head has serious issues with the figure, however you can't identify those issues unless you have a strong education in drawing from the model. Ask any pro concept artist or illustrator out there, and they know that Jacob is one of the top realist artists out there, in the very top circle. Jacob could spot so many flaws in digital art it would blow your mind, and that all comes from his working from life. There is a lot of respect for him, and if you can't understand that working from life (and not photos) is one of the highest artforms, then you are not qualified to pass judgement on guys like Jacob, or most realists for that matter.

[QUOTE=cdejong;27557054]Jacob's work is so great that you have to say it would be better if he made it from his head. Who the fuck gives a crap if he did it from life or his head? All the best artists worked from life! ALL OF THEM. Michelangelo, Rubens, Da Vinci, Bronzino, Bouguereau, Bonnat, Sargent, Repin, Rembrandt, just to name a few. There is a reason they did that, which is failed on you and others who are so obsessed with the cheap tricks in digital art that you can't appreciate real drawing. Yes, most digital art from the head has serious issues with the figure, however you can't identify those issues unless you have a strong education in drawing from the model. Ask any pro concept artist or illustrator out there, and they know that Jacob is one of the top realist artists out there, in the very top circle. Jacob could spot so many flaws in digital art it would blow your mind, and that all comes from his working from life. There is a lot of respect for him, and if you can't understand that working from life (and not photos) is one of the highest artforms, then you are not qualified to pass judgement on guys like Jacob, or most realists for that matter.[/QUOTE] woah dude, chillax. While drawing from life is the foundation of most all classical art, I'd agree that all of my favorite pieces from any artist are drawn from their head. While it's almost never perfectly accurate, I always find it to be more expressive. But hey differn't strokes.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;27557873]woah dude, chillax. While drawing from life is the foundation of most all classical art, I'd agree that all of my favorite pieces from any artist are drawn from their head. While it's almost never perfectly accurate, I always find it to be more expressive. But hey differn't strokes.[/QUOTE] Fair enough, but you shouldn't compare classical art to drawing from the mind. That's illustration and concept art. Classical art is rooted in nature and an appreciation of the Greco-Roman aesthetic. Illustration and concept art are modern inventions that take a lot of inspiration from photography and industrial design. They are not comparable in any way.

[QUOTE=cdejong;27557054]Jacob's work is so great that you have to say it would be better if he made it from his head. Who the fuck gives a crap if he did it from life or his head? All the best artists worked from life! ALL OF THEM. Michelangelo, Rubens, Da Vinci, Bronzino, Bouguereau, Bonnat, Sargent, Repin, Rembrandt, just to name a few. There is a reason they did that, which is failed on you and others who are so obsessed with the cheap tricks in digital art that you can't appreciate real drawing. Yes, most digital art from the head has serious issues with the figure, however you can't identify those issues unless you have a strong education in drawing from the model. Ask any pro concept artist or illustrator out there, and they know that Jacob is one of the top realist artists out there, in the very top circle. Jacob could spot so many flaws in digital art it would blow your mind, and that all comes from his working from life. There is a lot of respect for him, and if you can't understand that working from life (and not photos) is one of the highest artforms, then you are not qualified to pass judgement on guys like Jacob, or most realists for that matter.[/QUOTE] So you saying that drawing accurate from head is inferior of drawing accurately from reference? Gotya. [editline]21st January 2011[/editline] Also example of [U]your [/U]work

[QUOTE=cdejong;27558075]Fair enough, but you shouldn't compare classical art to drawing from the mind. That's illustration and concept art. Classical art is rooted in nature and an appreciation of the Greco-Roman aesthetic. Illustration and concept art are modern inventions that take a lot of inspiration from photography and industrial design. They are not comparable in any way.[/QUOTE] I'd say that Photography and Industrial design is selling it a bit short. One could make the claim that "concept art", or more specifically something along the lines of creature design, is related more to abstraction and mythology than it is to engineering.

[QUOTE=3v3ryb0dy;27558093]So you saying that drawing accurate from head is inferior of drawing accurately from reference? Gotya.[/QUOTE] No, I'm saying that it is impossible to bring a drawing from the mind to a point that could rival a master drawing from life. There's no sense in trying to argue that point. When figure drawing from life at a high level you can capture nuances that are impossible to retain in your mind, even with an incredibly strong understanding of anatomy. Show me a drawing that is better than Jacob's from someone's head. I can assure you I'll be able to point out plenty of issues in it, and I even have a limited skillset. [editline]21st January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;27558144]I'd say that Photography and Industrial design is selling it a bit short. One could make the claim that "concept art", or more specifically something along the lines of creature design, is related more to abstraction and mythology than it is to engineering.[/QUOTE] I would be hesitant to say that. Concept art borrows from mythology, but in a very topical way. Abstraction, probably. A lot of concepts look pretty dumb though, because younger artists keep copying and making designs even more silly. What's with all the pouches and glowing lights? I've got a few friends in the industry and even they make fun of it. I still like some concept art, though. It can be well made for what it is, but the really great pieces are few and far between. [editline]21st January 2011[/editline] Regular pencil on paper, cast study: [IMG]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/sebbonaparte/CIMG1195.jpg[/IMG] Very WIP figure drawing: [IMG]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/sebbonaparte/43a8f536fe4200575e9f5cfb7794d0c3.png[/IMG] Quick pelvis study: [IMG]http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z152/sebbonaparte/CIMG1039.jpg[/IMG] I'm not pretending to be very good, just trying to educate and prove a point here. If it helps validate what I'm saying at all, then that'd be nice, though.

You have the right to bitch. But I still am convicend that a work with some issues done from head requires greater praise than a perfect work drawn from reference.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;27555518]See, this is the kind of art that I just don't "get." I look at it and all I see it some colored squares, or a bunch of paint-splatters. I'm sure I'll be torn apart for saying this, but know that I'm not saying it to be offensive or to provoke anybody. I've heard a thousand different definitions of art, and as far as I can determine, art is any expression of ideal or emotion or fact made real in a new way, no matter the medium. I can certainly respect that everybody has their own way of expressing themselves, and that art speaks to everybody differently, but this style of art, "abstract expressionism," just totally goes over my head. It's pleasing to look at I suppose, but if it's expressing anything other than pretty shapes and colors, then I've missed the point. I once painted a single small circle in the center of the paper when I forgot to do an assignment for art class in high school. I did it jokingly, figuring I'd get my "F" and lick my wounds, but the teacher went nuts over it. I smiled and nodded at her praise of thinking outside the box, of expressing such a bold message in so simple a way, but there was no great artistic revelation in me with that dot. The only message I was trying to portray was how silly it seemed to me that images like those above are toted as complex and emotional pieces of art, and she either praised me because she got the point, or because the irony of that painting was lost on her. I'm sorry if I offended anybody, it's not my intention. I hate to sound like an art snob, because truth be told I'm not as passionate about visual art as most of you undoubtedly are. I just figured I'd weigh in, try to add something worthwhile.[/QUOTE] Abstract Expressionism is more the emotional side of art. While it holds a certain meaning for the original artist, it is created so the viewer can attach their own meaning and emotions to the images. If you can't attach a meaning to it, that is fine because it is [B]your[/B] interpretation. However, the colours and shapes the artist uses are there to funnel you into an area of emotional response, however wide it may be. Take my second example, for example, the darker hues mixing with the whites an yellows creates a more sombre tone to the painting. (First thing that came to my mind was depression, the black washing over the lighter side) It is rather difficult to let emotion take precedence over discernible form as the main component to interpreting abstraction. I much prefer abstraction however, I think it is a more subconscious form of art (much like surrealism)