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Braid is a legitimate great game and Fez is alright, it's a bit too simple for my tastes. But yeah nobody should care about what Jon likes or dislikes, he's really funny and that's what matters.

You can like something that's objectively bad for subjective reasons. Even then, the only things you listed I could truly agree with being objectively bad would be maybe Nickelback and Fez, but that doesn't mean anything.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;37350451] ...Jon likes Nickelback, Reddit, 4chan, Lady Gaga, and whatever Braide and Fez are...[/QUOTE] he also likes Dane cook.

[QUOTE=DudeGuyKT;37350514]You're saying things are "wrong" when they're his opinion. "I like rocky road ice cream." "Well you're WRONG."[/QUOTE] yeah but there are bad opinions and there are good ones eg. liking mlp is a bad opinion

[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;37350663]yeah but there are bad opinions and there are good ones eg. liking mlp is a bad opinion[/QUOTE] Seriously? Dont even bring MLP hate in to this. That has nothing to do with game grumps and all it'll do is start more shit.

[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;37350663]yeah but there are bad opinions and there are good ones [B]eg. liking mlp is a bad opinion[/B][/QUOTE] I will just sit back and watch this fire burn.

[QUOTE=~Myst;37350677]Seriously? Dont even bring MLP hate in to this. That has nothing to do with game grumps and all it'll do is start more shit.[/QUOTE] just trying to prove a point some opinions are just terrible. not wrong, just terrible

[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;37350663]yeah but there are bad opinions and there are good ones eg. liking mlp is a bad opinion[/QUOTE] ...or maybe, you know, people tend to have a few things they value more than everything else, and maybe sometimes those things overshadow the many flaws in something.

[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;37350697]just trying to prove a point some opinions are just terrible.[/QUOTE] Hnnnng. Seriously resisting the urge to rage at how incredibly awful this post is. Theres no such thing as a terrible opinion. Saying that in itself is an opinion. I can just as easily say your opinions are terrible.

[QUOTE=The Vman;37350541]I like how you don't even know what Braid and Fez are, yet automatically assume that liking them has negative connotations on Jon's character.[/QUOTE] Well when I said his opinions could be grating before I got a 'who cares!' but as soon as he said he liked those things even you guys started to say 'come on, really jon' so naturally I assumed the worst

[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;37350697]just trying to prove a point some opinions are just terrible. not wrong, just terrible[/QUOTE] You might not agree with their opinion, but it doesn't make it terrible.

[QUOTE=~Myst;37350713]Hnnnng. Seriously resisting the urge to rage at how incredibly awful this post is. Theres no such thing as a terrible opinion. Saying that in itself is an opinion. I can just as easily say your opinions are terrible.[/QUOTE] Sorry but welcome to the real world where nobody is here to baby you and opinions can actually be terrible.

[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;37350697]just trying to prove a point some opinions are just terrible. not wrong, just terrible[/QUOTE] They're terrible in [I]your[/I] eyes. It's [i]your[/i] opinion that they're terrible. If it's perfectly fine for you to disagree with Jon's opinions, why isn't it okay for him to have those opinions?

[QUOTE=legolover122;37350736]You might not agree with their opinion, but it doesn't make it terrible.[/QUOTE] It makes it terrible, in their opinion. You don't have to say 'in my opinion' after everything you say. You said it, it's implied.

[QUOTE=~Myst;37350713]Hnnnng. Seriously resisting the urge to rage at how incredibly awful this post is. Theres no such thing as a terrible opinion. Saying that in itself is an opinion. I can just as easily say your opinions are terrible.[/QUOTE] no there are definitely terrible opinions. sure a fan of such terrible shows and websites like 4chan might think their opinion is right, but they are usually socially retarded and to any normal person their opinion would be terrible. they are terrible opinions.

[QUOTE=DudeGuyKT;37350747]They're terrible in [i]your[/i] eyes. It's [/i]your[/i] opinion that they're terrible. If it's perfectly fine for you to disagree with Jon's opinions, why isn't it okay for him to have those opinions?[/QUOTE] Because in his opinion theyre terrible opinions so that's why to him it's not okay you answered it in your very own post you can argue about what opinions are all day it's stupid. at the end of the day, jon likes a lot of things that are universally regarded as bad my many peoples opinions.

"You don't like something I like so therefore your opinion is terrible." yeah, pretty sure this is kindergarten level triviality guys

[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;37350757]no there are definitely terrible opinions. sure a fan of such terrible shows and websites such like 4chan might think their opinion is right, but they are usually socially retarded and to any normal person their opinion would be terrible. they are terrible opinions.[/QUOTE] You're confusing opinions and judgements, and the idea that one or two opinions is at all indicative of someone's character is totally wrong.

[QUOTE=Loriborn;37350768]"You don't like something I like so therefore your opinion is terrible." yeah, pretty sure this is kindergarten level triviality guys[/QUOTE] So it should be 'You don't like something I like so therefore your opinion is great'? Of course if you disagree with someone, in your opinion, their opinion is bad. It's still all just an opinion sure, but if he's allowed to have his then I'm allowed to have mine, and mine includes that I think his is terrible. Why do I gotta explain this?

[QUOTE=Rusty100;37350763]Because in his opinion theyre terrible opinions so that's why to him it's not okay you answered it in your very own post you can argue about what opinions are all day it's stupid. at the end of the day, jon likes a lot of things that are universally regarded as bad my many peoples opinions.[/QUOTE] Basically: "As long as the majority thinks something is okay/good then therefore it is" Well, last time I checked, the majority of people don't hate Lady Gaga/Nickelback/Braid, rather, a few people on Facepunch bandwagoning and saying that these are awful things. If we're saying that opinions can be right or wrong depending on the opinion of the majority, then slavery was a totally justified thing because a majority of people agreed that it was. [editline]21st August 2012[/editline] Also, there's a difference between saying "your opinion is wrong" and saying "I disagree with your opinion."

[QUOTE=Rusty100;37350738]Sorry but welcome to the real world where nobody is here to baby you and opinions can actually be terrible.[/QUOTE] I like how you're pulling the "welcome to the real world kiddo" stock internet argument when essentially all you're saying is "nuh uh you're wrong because I'm older than you." It's fine that you think that JonTron has shit taste, I think that too, but damn man you're acting like a little fucking kid to people having different opinions.

"I like x show but don't like y website or z game" - a valid opinion "I think x should have rights taken from them, and that all people who belong to the group y should be executed" - a stupid / terrible / not good opinion do you see the difference

you guys will never change rusty's idiotic misconception about opinions so it'd be better to just stop trying

[QUOTE=1STrandomman;37350779]You're confusing opinions and judgements, and the idea that one or two opinions is at all indicative of someone's character is totally wrong.[/QUOTE] someone's opinion can tell you a lot about their character and personality. it's perfectly fine to judge them on it. if someone has a terrible opinion, i instantly think lesser of them. everyone judges, you can't tell me you don't.

[QUOTE=The Calzone;37350800]I like how you're pulling the "welcome to the real world kiddo" stock internet argument when essentially all you're saying is "nuh uh you're wrong because I'm older than you." It's fine that you think that JonTron has shit taste, I think that too, but damn man you're acting like a little fucking kid to people having different opinions.[/QUOTE] How? Because I said that I think his opinions are terrible? Or because I didn't put the words 'I think' in front of it? They don't always have to be there. It's implied with everything anybody says, that they think it. Unless they're lying. You guys are the ones completely unable to comprehend something as an opinion without it being explicitly stated. When I said welcome to the real world, I mean just that. People are going to think some of your opinions are terrible and judge you for it. That is life. You're going around and being all NAH AHHH THAT'S JUST YOUR OPINION. OPINIONS, MANN. LOOK IT UP. Like I don't know what an opinion is? Yeah. And that yours is terrible, is mine. That's how they work. You're literally arguing over nothing.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;37350842]How? Because I said that I think his opinions are terrible? Or because I didn't put the words 'I think' in front of it? They don't always have to be there. It's implied with everything anybody says, that they think it. Unless they're lying. You guys are the ones completely unable to comprehend something as an opinion without it being explicitly stated. When I said welcome to the real world, I mean just that. People are going to think some of your opinions are terrible and judge you for it. That is life. You're going around and being all NAH AHHH THAT'S JUST YOUR OPINION. OPINIONS, MANN. LOOK IT UP. Like I don't know what an opinion is? Yeah. And that yours is terrible, is mine. That's how they work. You're literally arguing over nothing.[/QUOTE] you made a really long reply over the nothing you're calling nothing when this retarded line of discussion can be squashed by everyone moving on

[QUOTE=Rusty100;37350842]You're literally arguing over nothing.[/QUOTE] You're the one who started this whole shitstorm and are supporting the people who are fueling it, so I dont really think you're in any position to say that.

[QUOTE=BuDSpOoNce;37350841]someone's opinion can tell you a lot about their character and personality. it's perfectly fine to judge them on it. if someone has a terrible opinion, i instantly think lesser of them. everyone judges, you can't tell me you don't.[/QUOTE] I try my hardest not to judge people, but even when I do it's not over stupid shit like enjoying Nickelback. Seriously, holy shit, what a stupid thing to judge someone over. ...and no, it doesn't tell you much about them as a person, at all. People aren't that simple.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;37350901]you made a really long reply over the nothing you're calling nothing when this retarded line of discussion can be squashed by everyone moving on[/QUOTE] yeah because apparently i have to because you guys aren't getting it [editline]22nd August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=~Myst;37350909]You're the one who started this whole shitstorm and are supporting the people who are fueling it, so I dont really think you're in any position to say that.[/QUOTE] I 'started' it by saying that I think Jon has quite a few shitty opinions and they're starting to be a bit much for me, personally. But because I left off the obvious implied fact that it's just my opinion of him and those things, people got up in arms.

Ok Rusty, your opinion is that Jon's opinions on stuff are wrong. That's fine. But saying, and I quote: [quote]...and at least acknowledge when he says things that are just so blatantly wrong?[/quote] ...is just fucking dumb. You are stating that his opinions are wrong, you aren't disagreeing with them. That's what people are pissed about. When something is wrong: 2 + 2 equals 5. When something is disagreeable: Nickleback is good. You have caused at least two or three arguments in this thread, by the way.