[QUOTE=GEARSofWAR360;28575498]we don't have any "animal instincts" because we're not animals. god created humans and you should appreciate the gift he gave you. remember, evolution is just a theory. but if you want you can be stupid and call yourself an animal.[/QUOTE]
people like you scare me.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;28575806]The Tiger's biggest strength was it's murderously effective main gun. It's biggest problem was it was a pricey bitch to produce and had its share of reliability problems.
But I do agree somewhat it was one of the best tanks (looking at it from a design perspective, the thing was an absolute horror to fight against for allied troops and M4 sherman crewmen alike).[/QUOTE]
The Tiger was also very slow and took a long time to produce.
For every 1 German Tank there was 10 Alllied Tanks, for once Quantity outweighed Quality.
[QUOTE=Patjo_sweden;28584442]people like you scare me.[/QUOTE]
He'll reply with something along the lines of "You're scared of the truth then"
[QUOTE=AWarGuy;28587629]The Tiger was also very slow and took a long time to produce.
For every 1 German Tank there was 10 Alllied Tanks, for once Quantity outweighed Quality.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure the ratio was much more like 50:1 than 10:1 :v:
I think producing Panthers would have been a much more wise choice, they could produce 2 Panthers for every Tiger, probably even more for every King Tiger.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;28587992]He'll reply with something along the lines of "You're scared of the truth then"
Pretty sure the ratio was much more like 50:1 than 10:1 :v:
I think producing Panthers would have been a much more wise choice, they could produce 2 Panthers for every Tiger, probably even more for every King Tiger.[/QUOTE]
50:1 ratio is WAY to big of a number.
I agree with the Panthers though, they were very deadly, the Tiger was more powerful but too much of a pain in the ass to produce and run.
[QUOTE=AWarGuy;28590072]50:1 ratio is WAY to big of a number.
I agree with the Panthers though, they were very deadly, the Tiger was more powerful but too much of a pain in the ass to produce and run.[/QUOTE]
Well, there were 1,347 built.
Add every single Allied tank produced during WWII and you've got a ratio way over 50:1. Even if you add the ~500 King Tigers.
The Panther and its variations (JagdPanther & BergePanther) were some of the sexiest tanks ever IMO.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;28575614]Shermans M4's were sadly overrated tanks, the M26 Pershing is the far better tank that absolutely out gunned it's German rivals when it hit the field.
WWII / Korean War era tanks are absolutely fascinating me and are amazing.[/QUOTE]
Same, although I felt the Patton should have came before the Pershing. The Patton was a pretty amazing tank for it's time.
[QUOTE=GEARSofWAR360;28574985]also, the point in life is to reproduce and create a family. what's the point of living when you're homosexual??[/QUOTE]
:sigh:
What's the point of your life if you can't even grow some to talk to a girl?
[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;28592635]:sigh:
What's the point of your life if you can't even grow some to talk to a girl?[/QUOTE]
That's why there is alcohol :buddy:
[QUOTE=Firespray;28592479]Same, although I felt the Patton should have came before the Pershing. The Patton was a pretty amazing tank for it's time.[/QUOTE]
But... how can the improved version of a tank come before the unimproved tank itself :psyduck:
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Unless you're talking about the M60. Some of the technology used in the M60 wasn't invented until after WWII :v:
[QUOTE=jaredop;28565112]My grandpa was stationed in Germany directly after WWII, he brought back a Luftwaffe dagger and I have it now[/QUOTE]
I forgot this thread existed
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[QUOTE=jaredop;28602309]I forgot this thread existed
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If you ever kill someone, please kill them with that.
[QUOTE=ejonkou;28545950]USSR > Rest of the world[/QUOTE]
Yeah they really kicked ass in that cold war thing!
I like looking into the reasons the wars started, WW2 is particularly interesting. Quite a lot of evidence suggests the USA could have stopped it way before it happened.
[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;28603848]I like looking into the reasons the wars started, WW2 is particularly interesting. Quite a lot of evidence suggests the USA could have stopped it way before it happened.[/QUOTE]
Well if any country took action while Germany was rearming instead of focusing on small skirmishes, WW2 could have been avoided.
It's more the way they bailed out on the League of Nations, despite it being Wilson's idea, leaving two weakened nations (France and Britain), without the economic or military power to try and maintain peace. And they failed to place trade embargoes on Japan during the Manchurian Crisis, further undermining the league. Hitler saw the way Japan and Italy (in Abyssinia) got away with invading other countries, and "Goose-stepped" back into the Rhineland.
[QUOTE=Firespray;28592479]Same, although I felt the Patton should have came before the Pershing. The Patton was a pretty amazing tank for it's time.[/QUOTE]
The Patton M46 was indeed pretty rad.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;28608409]The Patton M46 was indeed pretty rad.[/QUOTE]
Patton was M48 and M60.
I've always thought it kind of funny that Gen. George Patton IV (the famous one's son) commanded an armored cav unit in Vietnam, that was made up primarily of APCs and none other than the M48 Patton tank. How very fitting...
[QUOTE=Whatwhat1337;28612706]Patton was M48 and M60.
I've always thought it kind of funny that Gen. George Patton IV (the famous one's son) commanded an armored cav unit in Vietnam, that was made up primarily of APCs and none other than the M48 Patton tank. How very fitting...[/QUOTE]
M60 wasn't officially named Patton. 3 tanks were named after him : M46, M47 and M48 :eng101:
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How about a little Soviet armor? The almighty KV-2 (Okay, maybe not that mighty)
Still some pretty awesome stories about it, even though it was a pretty meh tank. Too heavy, underpowered engine, separated charge ammunition, huge fucking turret that could only be traversed by hand. During its time it could survive just about anything the Germans had, kinda like the Tiger/KT.
[url]http://worldwartwozone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12340-panzer-tales/page__view__findpost__p__247991[/url] (I'm recycling stuff I already posted :v:)
KV-1 is a great tank, it could take a hit over and over the Germans were annoyed at this before the T-34 made it's debut but the KV-2 lacked numbers and was a bit undergunned.
[QUOTE=ze beaver;28612729]M60 wasn't officially named Patton. 3 tanks were named after him : M46, M47 and M48 :eng101[/QUOTE]
Oh okay. That said the M46/M47 were used in very limited numbers by only the US and I think Belgium. The M48 is the famous and successful version. And the M60... it's still what it would referred to, if not according to DA documentation.
Can someone give me a tip for next year's WWII Project?
I've pre-planned my topic and the teachers approved.
German and American Weapons: Their differences and similarities.
I already have the obligitory "MP40 compared to Thompson, bla bla 9mm vs .45 bla bla"
But how would I present it?
I was thinking of doing a source-recorder in Gmod using DoD weapons (realistic enough).
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;28680649]Can someone give me a tip for next year's WWII Project?
I've pre-planned my topic and the teachers approved.
German and American Weapons: Their differences and similarities.
I already have the obligitory "MP40 compared to Thompson, bla bla 9mm vs .45 bla bla"
But how would I present it?
I was thinking of doing a source-recorder in Gmod using DoD weapons (realistic enough).[/QUOTE]
Try Red Orchestra Darkest Hour mod, It be tons better in my opinon
Why does everybody talk about the weapons whenever war is mentioned, there is so much more to it....
And zillamaster, when I did a War/WW2 project two years ago, I talked about what new tactics and weaponry was used and how that impacted the way the war was fought. I then compared it to previous and modern wars and talked about how public opinion has changed about war. We also had a recorded interview with my dad's friend, a Paratrooper who was in Northern Ireland, and present at Bloody Sunday. something similar but more relevant would be brilliant. I wouldn't suggest just focusing on the weapon comparisons, it would be bloody boring, you are limited on what you can do.
Well, German Uniform were the sexiest, amiright? :buddy:
I didn't know what came after the 7.62 :v:.
So, 63 or 51, which was the most common?
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[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;28686109]Why does everybody talk about the weapons whenever war is mentioned, there is so much more to it....
And zillamaster, when I did a War/WW2 project two years ago, I talked about what new tactics and weaponry was used and how that impacted the way the war was fought. I then compared it to previous and modern wars and talked about how public opinion has changed about war. We also had a recorded interview with my dad's friend, a Paratrooper who was in Northern Ireland, and present at Bloody Sunday. something similar but more relevant would be brilliant. I wouldn't suggest just focusing on the weapon comparisons, it would be bloody boring, you are limited on what you can do.[/QUOTE]
I know it would be boring, but I'm going to give reasons on why gun X helped country Y win/lose.
The K98 was a terrific rifle, but shuddered under the effectiveness of the Semi-Automatic M1 Garand [video comparison]
And so forth.
My father is in a WW2 re-enactment group. His second battle was just a month ago. He does USGI for now but he is still trying to get the rest of his Soviet gear together. In his first battle, he was commanded to pair up with a mortar man for protection and to carry more shells. They ended up hitting a German Half-Track right on the hood. When all the Nazis were piling out and putting their helmets on their guns (means they are dead) he said it looked like a clown car with so many of them.
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[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;28694755]Uh.. both are rifle calibres, however the 51 is the standard NATO 7,62 round. The Mosin Nagant used 7,62x54R, like the Dragunov SVD and its variants. The PSSH41 used the 7,62x25 round which is a pistol calibre.
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Well, one is a bolt action the other semi automatic, so you can't compare it like that. They also used different calibres and cartridges (M1 used 7,62x63(.30-06), the Karabiner used 7,92x57.).
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And you should bring up that fact; different calibres, ranges, how effective they were, the action, the reliability, manufacture and so on.
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If you're interested, I own a Walther P1 (Modified P38), a Mauser K98k and a M-Nagant M19/30, so if you really want to, I probably could give you some info.[/QUOTE]
If you are doing comparisons the main focus should be on the Garand, Mosin Nagant M19/30, and the K98K, since they were the main rifles they all used.
[QUOTE=Bowser_nl;28559742]These projects where only developed because Hitler was narrow minded and wanted bigger things.[/QUOTE]
I think that was good. He had the knowledge of nuclear weaponry which would've been far worse
My Great Grandfather was a pilot in WWII. He crash landed in Germany and had to get himself out. He was a badass.
[QUOTE=Zally13;28721892]My Great Grandfather was a pilot in WWII. He crash landed in Germany and had to get himself out. He was a badass.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't everyone during that era?
I like this topic. I'm a collector of everything WW2.
It's mostly junk, but atleast I have something to spend money on.
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