Don't take the words of former Wehrmacht guys and label every mid-late war defeat as "Hitler's fault". Most of their memoirs were written during the Cold War and had to grind a political axe. The Germans could still produce some successes tactically, but their defeat at the strategic and operational level meant that they no longer had the tactical dominance of 1941.
[QUOTE=Tac Error;29122595]Don't take the words of former Wehrmacht guys and label every mid-late war defeat as "Hitler's fault". Most of their memoirs were written during the Cold War and had to grind a political axe. The Germans could still produce some successes tactically, but their defeat at the strategic and operational level meant that they no longer had the tactical dominance of 1941.[/QUOTE]
I never mentioned the former wehrmacht guys, it says in that quote you posted that once the commanders had failed, they were replaced with people too timid to question Hitler. Stalingrad wasn't exactly mid-late war either and it seems to be widely known that it was Hitler wouldn't let them retreat and breakout from encirclement.
The bottom line is that the quality of German troops in the East got lower late 1942 onward as the quality and training of Soviet soldiers and officers got better with experience - though it was a very bloody process to finally forge the Red Army of 1945.
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It's just that it was with the German memoirs that "All our military faults were Hitler's" excuse began to become popular. Widely-read books like von Manstein's Lost Victories and Mellenthin's Panzer Battles have that characteristic.
Sorry i gave that impression, didn't really mean that.
Do you think there would've been a meeting point between Soviet and German training standards?
You guys are talking like you actully want Hitler to won.
[QUOTE=maxumym;29127026]You guys are talking like you actully want Hitler to won.[/QUOTE]
Uhh... no. Discussing hypotheticals =/= wanting them to have actually happend.
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