well he's right, it IS unrealistic and it doesn't go with the tone the show's had lately.
That being said, it was awesome and a fitting death for him, and that's all that matters.
It was very refreshing to see the Heisenberg of the earlier seasons again, after watching almost an entire season of a cowardly, confused and nervous Walter trying to make sense of his situation, not knowing whether he would survive the day.
I'm really looking forward to the next season, although it seems like they just tied up all the loose ends, besides Mike, I guess. The writers haven't let me down before though, so I'm sure they'll come up with some amazing direction for the story that I hadn't even considered.
Amazing season!
it was a fantastic climax that very much did the show's tone, excellent writing and buildup justice
[QUOTE=Rusty100;32722886]you are the only one that didn't like it
read: you're wrong[/QUOTE]
No he isn't, I see where he's coming from. It would have worked fine if he hadn't walked out and was just.. dead.
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Rusty100;32723003]it was a fantastic climax that very much did the show's tone, excellent writing and buildup justice[/QUOTE]
The Two-Face scene was totally unnecessary though. It could have just ended with the room blowing out into the hallway and the people gathering to have a look.
[QUOTE=GodKing;32723005]No he isn't, I see where he's coming from. It would have worked fine if he hadn't walked out and was just.. dead.[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't have really hit home for me, just to see him snuffed out would be very disappointing and contrary to the way they build up his character to be a man who just doesn't get snuffed out. He's a big character who NEEDED a big exit.
I agree with you but the way they did it was too over the top and comic book villainish.
Holy God damned shit.
Holy
FUCK.
[QUOTE=GodKing;32723150]I agree with you but the way they did it was too over the top and comic book villainish.[/QUOTE]
I guess it's just one of those things where some people register with it and others don't, not much you can change about that.
I can tell they sacrificed a little ultra-realism for artistic purposes, but a situation like Gus walking out like that cannot be entirely IMPOSSIBLE? Anyone remember that Texan Electrician who had his face melted off and survived? (http://images.ninemsn.com.au/resizer.aspx?url=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/2011/health/2203_wiens2_a.jpg&width=310)
Anyway, bugger this realism crap talk... the point of the discussion should be the artistic purpose behind the split/two face concept. It's open to interpretation, my view of the skull side of his face was all the destruction and evil he caused... death, the grim reaper... the other side of his face was the layered skin concealing his true form, a bringer of destruction. The adjusting of his tie was to emphasize that idenitity, the bullshit artist businessman. I just wanted to point out also that all of the businessmen in that Breaking Bad cause a lot of grief by their greed and lust for money, Ted Benerke? Cooking books, company shutting down resulting in employees unemployed because of his greed and when he had the opportunity for redemption (when Skyler gave him the 600,000) he still had to buy a fucking mercedez and cheat the system. Don't doubt these people are not in the real world, they are most businessmen and are the very reason why our Western Society is fucked, you know what's funny - 95% of us work for jokers like these Gustavo's and Ted's... sure, the one's we work for maybe not specifically distribute meth or cheat taxation but they are users and probably cheat the system and do evil in another form. I'm cynical when it comes to our society and Capitalism, I also struggle to articulate my thoughts through the keyboard but that's the message I got from it.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;32723119]It wouldn't have really hit home for me, just to see him snuffed out would be very disappointing and contrary to the way they build up his character to be a man who just doesn't get snuffed out. He's a big character who NEEDED a big exit.[/QUOTE]
i'm not disputing that at all
i'm saying that the [I]specific sequence[/I] where he survives this explosion that fucking destroyed the room
and damaged the adjacent rooms and calmly walked out with half his face missing is incredibly stupid and unrealistic. it was like something from a dream
the possibilities for them to have given him a fittingly dignified badass death that wasn't so ridiculous and implausible are endless. we all know what this show's writers are capable of. ugh
and to be clear yes I'm aware that BB is not all about being realistic. the show is not completely plausible all the time and it's not always realistic. but this sequence was just so far out there that it didn't make any sense at all. not a bit of it. again, it looked like something from a dream or a hallucination
[QUOTE=Kalibos;32721868]I really liked the finale but the part when [sp]gus walked out, coolly straightened his tie, and collapsed [I]with half his fucking face missing[/I][/sp] really pissed me off. It tarnished the episode for me. It was completely unrealistic and made no sense just for the sake of "being badass". ugh. I'll never be able to look past that. Terrible production decision imo
Like for christ's sake [sp]the explosion obliterated the room and caused damage to the adjacent rooms and blew the door out. it makes absolutely no sense that he survived the blast at all, much less with half his face fucked up and him able to just walk out the door for a more stylish death.[/sp] fucking hell I could go on about this forever it was just awful
I really enjoyed the rest of the episode though[/QUOTE]
You know I just imagine it was more symbolic. The point of that scene wasn't to show that [sp]he walked out of the room alive. It was showing how he died a businessman, with his dignity. Though I imagine it would have worked better if not for that surprised scream right before the explosion. Him screaming and then walking out of the room all distinguished in a grand total of five seconds is the only thing that put the scene a little off for me.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Kalibos;32722447]oh what a load of fucking crap
i can: something realistic that actually made sense
i really just cannot wrap my mind around the fact that that decision was greenlit by (presumably) vince gilligan against (HOPEFULLY) objections of various people (giancarlo esposito? did he really not question his character's legitimacy here? what about all the rest of the crew that don't normally have a say in the creative aspects of the show? did they really not have a problem with the retarded-ness of this, or did vince gilligan/the writers just not give a shit?).
honestly it tarnished my image of the production staff and the series in a small way. I wish I could forget it
as will i but not in the way i should
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
hey dannyduh and mr hobo how about instead of tossing out ratings you reply to me with your take on it? fucking cowards[/QUOTE]
You need a chill pill
[QUOTE=Kalibos;32723693]i'm not disputing that at all
i'm saying that the [I]specific sequence[/I] where [sp]he survives this explosion that fucking destroyed the room
and damaged the adjacent rooms and calmly walked out with half his face missing is incredibly stupid and unrealistic. it was like something from a dream
the possibilities for them to have given him a fittingly dignified badass death that wasn't so ridiculous and implausible are endless. we all know what this show's writers are capable of. ugh[/sp][/QUOTE]
Just imagine, like I do, that [sp]he didn't survive for a second. They just wanted to show his personality. He even took death like a true businessman.[/sp]
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;32723727]You need a chill pill[/QUOTE]
You need to switch back to your old avatar because that one is creepy as fuck.
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=ZF911;32723728]Just imagine, like I do, that [sp]he didn't survive for a second. They just wanted to show his personality. He even took death like a true businessman.[/sp][/QUOTE]
I would have liked this better. It's exactly because everyone expects him to go out in style that he should have just died. It would have been like the scene from The Departed, in the elevator doorway.
I didn't like the episodes leading up to this one at all but that was fantastic
And his death was perfectly fitting with the dark humour that this show has always had, what are you on about there
[QUOTE=Kalibos;32722447]hey dannyduh and mr hobo how about instead of tossing out ratings you reply to me with your take on it? fucking cowards[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrh1jnTulk1qe5a1ao6_250.gif[/IMG]
"Come at me bro"
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32724010]I didn't like the episodes leading up to this one at all but that was fantastic
And his death was perfectly fitting with the dark humour that this show has always had, what are you on about there[/QUOTE]
how did you not like the previous episodes but love this one
[QUOTE=Kalibos;32722447]oh what a load of fucking crap
i can: something realistic that actually made sense
i really just cannot wrap my mind around the fact that that decision was greenlit by (presumably) vince gilligan against (HOPEFULLY) objections of various people (giancarlo esposito? did he really not question his character's legitimacy here? what about all the rest of the crew that don't normally have a say in the creative aspects of the show? did they really not have a problem with the retarded-ness of this, or did vince gilligan/the writers just not give a shit?).
honestly it tarnished my image of the production staff and the series in a small way. I wish I could forget it
as will i but not in the way i should
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
hey dannyduh and mr hobo how about instead of tossing out ratings you reply to me with your take on it? fucking cowards[/QUOTE]
There have been reports that some people can still walk around, although dazed, after a explosion hurting them. I remember a story of one soldier who was near a bomb when it exploded. He was walking around , [i]but his intestine was falling out of him[/i]. He acted as if nothing was wrong. I think its a mixture of shock and adrenaline that can allow somebody to do this.
Gus's death was a mixture between that and some TVish coolness. They had to present it in a way that was "cool" and "badass".
[QUOTE=Hmn30;32724036]how did you not like the previous episodes but love this one[/QUOTE]
I don't know, they just weren't able to hold my interest like old Breaking Bad was able to
i hated those smug fbi agents
best season finale for a TV show ever
[QUOTE=Kalibos;32722447]oh what a load of fucking crap
i can: something realistic that actually made sense
i really just cannot wrap my mind around the fact that that decision was greenlit by (presumably) vince gilligan against (HOPEFULLY) objections of various people (giancarlo esposito? did he really not question his character's legitimacy here? what about all the rest of the crew that don't normally have a say in the creative aspects of the show? did they really not have a problem with the retarded-ness of this, or did vince gilligan/the writers just not give a shit?).
honestly it tarnished my image of the production staff and the series in a small way. I wish I could forget it
as will i but not in the way i should
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
hey dannyduh and mr hobo how about instead of tossing out ratings you reply to me with your take on it? fucking cowards[/QUOTE]
Hey cool I found the newest addition to my ignore list.
[sp]I found that death within grounds of plausibility. Gus was near the door when the bomb went off and already ran for it. Then it switched camera angles, meaning the time for the bell to trigger the bomb could have given Gus enough time to reach the door before the bomb exploded. So only his right side was affected, there doesn't seem to be any immediate brain damage so what Gus did was possible.[/sp]
[QUOTE=EggWhite;32724996][sp]I found that death within grounds of plausibility. Gus was near the door when the bomb went off and already ran for it. Then it switched camera angles, meaning the time for the bell to trigger the bomb could have given Gus enough time to reach the door before the bomb exploded. So only his right side was affected, there doesn't seem to be any immediate brain damage so what Gus did was possible.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]This makes sense given only one side of his body seemed to take damage.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Birdman101;32724485]Hey cool I found the newest addition to my ignore list.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kalibos;32723693]i'm not disputing that at all
i'm saying that the [I]specific sequence[/I] where he survives this explosion that fucking destroyed the room
and damaged the adjacent rooms and calmly walked out with half his face missing is incredibly stupid and unrealistic. it was like something from a dream
the possibilities for them to have given him a fittingly dignified badass death that wasn't so ridiculous and implausible are endless. we all know what this show's writers are capable of. ugh
and to be clear yes I'm aware that BB is not all about being realistic. the show is not completely plausible all the time and it's not always realistic. but this sequence was just so far out there that it didn't make any sense at all. not a bit of it. again, it looked like something from a dream or a hallucination[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure if you look at the facts you'll see what happened was within the realm of possibility.
First off, Gus did notice what was going on, and probably made a break for the door within the brief moment between him yelling and the scene changing to showing the hallway. And I think you're overestimating what an explosion actually does in real life. This was a sudden blast, probably meant to ignite the fuel tank of a vehicle, and not necessarily to start a fire, so the damage that it caused was concussive, and due to the size of the blast (which isn't as big as you're making it out to be. It destroyed a WHOLE room, which was not a very big room), the effect of it on whatever it touches is going to be on whichever side is facing it, as opposed to the complete surrounding effect you seem to think it would have on him. If you look at grenade victims on google you'll probably find a lot of half-burnt, half-not fools, although I suppose they didn't walk out of any room to straighten their tie. Unless the blast was strong enough to literally take him apart bit by bit, there's going to be bits of him that aren't all charred up. If we assume he made a break for the door, and turned his head, the sudden concussive force surely could've blasted off one side of his head and left him still standing after staggering backwards or whatever, left partially conscious by a rush of adrenaline mixed with shock. Idk, I hate to even have to go this into detail to try and explain a two second scene that, yeah, was mostly put in for dramatic effect, but it's not like it was an impossible situation, and I don't care how damaged those rooms were. You're just kind of mercilessly gnitpicking at something that doesn't really matter, and didn't have much weight on the series unless you thought it was incredibly badass like I did.
Oh jesus...i just watched the last episode and the result was just JIZZ ALL OVER THE PLACE!!,oh and the best was when [sp]he is talking to Skyler and then she turns to him on the phone and says "Walter,What happened?" and then he makes a badass face and say,"I won"[/sp]
[sp]Few things I noticed and how I feel about the whole explosion scene. I really like it, it fits the character and how he was portrayed. It was a bit unrealistic but Gus needed his death to be unique in some way and how he manages to walk out reflects how he acted throughout the show. Now why I think it's unrealistic. Gus really didn't have time to move away, he only stood up and possibly turned his head. Then seeing how everyone else was torn to pieces inside the room he must be Terminator after all.[/sp]
holy fuck i didn't expect that image to be legit
[editline]11th October 2011[/editline]
oh my god that was the fucking shit
[editline]11th October 2011[/editline]
they did a real good job with that entire scene, just looking at that still. it's fucking poetic. on one side it's this normal looking dude and on the other its his true ugly self
[editline]11th October 2011[/editline]
oh god.
"was this you? what happened"
"i won"
this show is the fucking bomb
oh god oh god oh god
[editline]11th October 2011[/editline]
[sp]oh fuck, did walt poison the kid?[/sp]
i'm guessing that's walt's backyard when they zoom in on you know what
[editline]11th October 2011[/editline]
so how the fuck could this show have another season? [sp]jesse finding out walt let jane die and poisoned the kid?[/sp]
seriously they could end the show with that episode i don't know how they could go on without jumping the shark
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