[QUOTE=Silly Sil;40366991]Rape doesn't have to be brutal to be called rape. If I'd put a gun to a girls head and fuck her tenderly it's still rape. If I'd spike a girl's drink so that she wouldn't resist, take her home and fuck her tenderly it's still rape. And if I get a girl shitfaced so that she can't resist, or can't even tell what the fuck is going on, take her home and fuck her tenderly it's still rape.
Of course he should be labeled a rapist. This behavior is not excusable.[/QUOTE]
Just because it's not excusable doesn't mean it's rape.
There are always shades of grey when it comes to crime and I thing this case is far enough away from raping at gunpoint that it should be considered a different crime.
But at least we agree on it being inexcusable and society needing to be made aware that this is a problem.
[QUOTE=Overactor;40367571]Just because it's not excusable doesn't mean it's rape.[/QUOTE]
Just because it's not brutal it doesn't mean it's not rape. That's the point.
[QUOTE=Overactor;40367571]There are always shades of grey when it comes to crime and I thing this case is far enough away from raping at gunpoint that it should be considered a different crime.[/QUOTE]
What different crime? Yeah it's not as bad as getting violently held down or even beaten up and forcibly fucked, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still rape and should be treated as such.
[quote]Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse, which is initiated by one or more persons against another person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority or with a person who is incapable of valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, or below the legal age of consent[/quote]
[QUOTE=Overactor;40367571]Just because it's not excusable doesn't mean it's rape.
There are always shades of grey when it comes to crime and I thing this case is far enough away from raping at gunpoint that it should be considered a different crime.
But at least we agree on it being inexcusable and society needing to be made aware that this is a problem.[/QUOTE]
Its rape because he forced sex on her, people who are that smashed can't consent.
[QUOTE=Overactor;40366683]I never said it was okay, I just said it was less bad than raping someone with brute force when you are entirely sober.
Why is no one addressing that part of my argument (the only thing I am saying really)?
I repeat, I never said it's excusable, just not on the same level as what i see as rape.[/QUOTE]
Rape is rape, it may not be as bad as a rape through physical coercion, but nonconsensual sex is rape.
I wonder when Shadaez is going to get permabanned for constantly making these shitty threads.
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[QUOTE=-ZeeBo-;40368897]I wonder when Shadaez is going to get permabanned for constantly making these shitty threads.[/QUOTE]
i still wonder why you still haven't gotten banned for your constant shitposting
Garry is my Guardian angel.
[QUOTE=-ZeeBo-;40368897]I wonder when Shadaez is going to get permabanned for constantly making these shitty threads.[/QUOTE]
How is the video shitty.
[QUOTE=Valnar;40369571]How is the video shitty.[/QUOTE]
Everything I touch turns to shit, like a shitty Midas touch.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;40366633]I disagree with that because there is no such thing as implied consent.[/quote]
I disagree, there is a thing called tacit consent. However I believe it is very hard to tell when someone is giving you consent without them explicitly doing so, so for the sake of not violating their wishes and for the sake of not making yourself a criminal you should always ask for a clear yes or no response. However once consent is given it's up to the person who gave it to revoke it just as clearly as they gave it, to not expect the person who they gave consent to, to be able to read their implicit revocation of consent.
[QUOTE=Overactor;40366683]I never said it was okay, I just said it was less bad than raping someone with brute force when you are entirely sober.
Why is no one addressing that part of my argument (the only thing I am saying really)?
I repeat, I never said it's excusable, just not on the same level as what i see as rape.[/QUOTE]
jesus christ man stop posting
"not on the same level as what I see as rape" what the fuck do you see as rape
does someone have to get beaten up before its rape?
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;40378496]jesus christ man stop posting
"not on the same level as what I see as rape" what the fuck do you see as rape
does someone have to get beaten up before its rape?[/QUOTE]
Can't a man have standards?
[QUOTE=Ironic Man;40336180]Well to me it looks like she was kissing back, leading him on...
And I don't care how 'fun' it is public drunkeness is a serious problem.[/QUOTE]
You've never met a girl who was wasted, have you?
[QUOTE=Scoooooby;40378610]You've never met a girl who was wasted, have you?[/QUOTE]
Half the people in this thread have probably never talked to a woman, judging from the incredibly awkward and borderline sociopathic shit that's been posted.
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Also, you're in a thread about rape in [I]Facepunch[/I]. Go figure.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;40335010]wow, first post? jesus christ.
people should be able to have a good time without fearing they will be sexually or violently abused.[/QUOTE]
Getting shitfaced drunk isn't my definition of a good time but ok.
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