[QUOTE=Bassplaya7;18055697]Natural cycles, etc., etc....[/QUOTE]
I wonder why the climate scientists don't know it's a natural cycle?
Here's the contact info for the AAAS, you better call them up and tell them before they waste any more time on climate change research.
1200 New York Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20005
Tel: 202-326-6400
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[QUOTE=CMasta;18054845]CO2 goes up as temperature goes up, not the other way around.[/QUOTE]
CO2 is a greenhouse gas that has been scientifically shown to trap heat
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Th89 seems to know what he's talking about. I'll let him deal with this.
Noooo
I want to watch Community
[QUOTE=TH89;18055948]Noooo
I want to watch Community[/QUOTE]
But I don't feel like getting in another argument that will lead to nowhere because the vast majority of facepunch is afraid to consider something other than their own opinion. :saddowns:
I wonder if this happens in hospitals too...
Let's talk
:v:
Global Warming
:sigh:
[QUOTE=Binge le mag;18056040]Let's talk
:v:
Global Warming
:sigh:[/QUOTE]
:bahgawd:
A little back ago ( a few weeks or so ) European countries are trying to drop the American currency for oil (So pretty much the US can't buy oil) So yeah... We're fucked unless people realize "Hey! We have fully electric cars now!... Let's make them cheaper and mass produce!" That's just for the car situation though >.>
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;18051537]
Man Made Global Warming is bullshit.
Al Gore in general needs to shut his pie hole.[/QUOTE]
Heh.. You must not live near big industry. I'm about 300 yards from the gulf of mexico and can see all those oil rigs. Also the smoke plumes of the big refineries to the north stretch miles off into the distant sky. I've seen active volcanoes putting out less soot and C02 than our refinery complex.
Still, it doesn't matter. The planet is a self-correcting system. Even if we raise the temp a few degrees or fiddle with the atmospheric gasses, it'll sort itself out pretty quickly. More C02 means faster plant and algae growth which will bring the levels back down pretty quick. Water levels might rise a few feet, some areas might get a little drier, some a little wetter, people will adapt just like they always have. All these hysterical fools and their doomsday predictions about climate change are no different than the apocalypse loons and their crackpot theories. Best to just ignore the dumb people.
[QUOTE=Psycho0124;18056126]Heh.. You must not live near big industry. I'm about 300 yards from the gulf of mexico and can see all those oil rigs. Also the smoke plumes of the big refineries to the north stretch miles off into the distant sky. I've seen active volcanoes putting out less soot and C02 than our refinery complex.
Still, it doesn't matter. The planet is a self-correcting system. Even if we raise the temp a few degrees or fiddle with the atmospheric gasses, it'll sort itself out pretty quickly. More C02 means faster plant and algae growth which will bring the levels back down pretty quick. Water levels might rise a few feet, some areas might get a little drier, some a little wetter, people will adapt just like they always have. All these hysterical fools and their doomsday predictions about climate change are no different than the apocalypse loons and their crackpot theories. Best to just ignore the dumb people.[/QUOTE]
^
This man has it down.
Statement: I feel global warming is real.
Reason: No it isn't because The Day After Tomorrow scared the shit out of me. But the fact we're getting more rain than normal, and other areas are seeing record heat waves that were set decades ago.
Also, hurricanes seem to be popping up more in the Pacific than the Atlantic, and still heading into the US.
California got hit by the renements of a typhoon that was on the other side of the world.
Fish and coral reefs are dying in our oceans because the water temperature is increasing. The north and south poles are melting at an alarming rate.
Wow. Bad Reading? I thought I was going to see more boxes.
[QUOTE=Benie;18056190]
Fish and coral reefs are dying in our oceans because the water temperature is increasing. The north and south poles are melting at an alarming rate.[/QUOTE]
It's about time someone brings this up. Our ocean is dying at an alarming rate because of the increase in temperature. Without our reefs we loose a [B][I]Fuckton[/I][/B] of potential profit and fishing grounds. Not to mention some people don't seem to realize that most of our oxygen comes from our ocean, not the forests.
[QUOTE=Psycho0124;18056126]Still, it doesn't matter. The planet is a self-correcting system. Even if we raise the temp a few degrees or fiddle with the atmospheric gasses, it'll sort itself out pretty quickly. More C02 means faster plant and algae growth which will bring the levels back down pretty quick. Water levels might rise a few feet, some areas might get a little drier, some a little wetter, people will adapt just like they always have.[/QUOTE]
The entirety of Bangladesh is predicted to go underwater. The adaptability of the earth's ecosystems are scaled to massive temperature changes over thousands of years, not decades.
[QUOTE=Benie;18056190]Statement: I feel global warming is real.
Reason: No it isn't because The Day After Tomorrow scared the shit out of me. But the fact we're getting more rain than normal, and other areas are seeing record heat waves that were set decades ago.
Also, hurricanes seem to be popping up more in the Pacific than the Atlantic, and still heading into the US.
California got hit by the renements of a typhoon that was on the other side of the world.
Fish and coral reefs are dying in our oceans because the water temperature is increasing. The north and south poles are melting at an alarming rate.[/QUOTE]
There has been record cold temperatures all around the world . . . you forgot to mention that.
[QUOTE=Master_Jeeves;18056300]You forgot to add there has been record cold temperatures this winter all around the world.
Global warming . . . Record cold temperatures in the winter of 2009?? ...
It all goes together and makes sense now![/QUOTE]
It snowed down here in Houston Texas last year. :tinfoil:
It's not even winter yet. That's the thing.
[QUOTE=OvB;18056317]It snowed down here in Houston Texas last year. :tinfoil:[/QUOTE]
I ment 2008 my bad...brainfart to the extreme...there was fucking wind blasting out of my ears...lol
Global warming isn't just purely shit being hot. The effects of a warm eco-system can cause some strange things. Therefor a more correct term would be climate change, but it's not exactly 100%, which is what we have people with the case studies and the geological studies for.
[QUOTE=Master_Jeeves;18056300]There has been record cold temperatures all around the world . . . you forgot to mention that.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://epa.gov/climatechange/kids/climateweather.html[/url]
But yeah, a lot of countries had record lows in the winter of 2008... for example is snowed in Mesa, AZ not to long ago ( I live in Pheonix and my grandparents called and were like wtf!?! )
[QUOTE=Psycho0124;18056126]Heh.. You must not live near big industry. I'm about 300 yards from the gulf of mexico and can see all those oil rigs. Also the smoke plumes of the big refineries to the north stretch miles off into the distant sky. I've seen active volcanoes putting out less soot and C02 than our refinery complex.
Even if we raise the temp a few degrees or fiddle with the atmospheric gasses, it'll sort itself out pretty quickly. More C02 means faster plant and [B]algae growth[/B] which will bring the levels back down pretty quick. [/QUOTE]
Algae can beat the shit out of a reef ecosystem killing the entire thing including the fish that live in it if it grows to much which is becoming a problem as the water conditions become less in favor for corals.
[QUOTE=Benie;18056190]Statement: I feel global warming is real.
Reason: No it isn't because The Day After Tomorrow scared the shit out of me. But the fact we're getting more rain than normal, and other areas are seeing record heat waves that were set decades ago.
Also, hurricanes seem to be popping up more in the Pacific than the Atlantic, and still heading into the US.
California got hit by the renements of a typhoon that was on the other side of the world.
Fish and coral reefs are dying in our oceans because the water temperature is increasing. The north and south poles are melting at an alarming rate.[/QUOTE]
Hurricanes have always happened. Look at Galveston in 1900. Completely flattened the whole city, killing thousands. At least now we've got radar and satellite imagery to spot them early and evacuate, rater than just having it get kinda windy one morning and "surprise!", the whole town is leveled that evening by 140mph winds, storm surge, and swarms of tornadoes.
Species of fish that are more tolerant of warm water will start to thrive, filling the niches of the declining cold-water species. Same for the corals. These are natural pressures and they've happened many times throughout geological history. Life is still here despite them.
[QUOTE=TH89;18056299]The entirety of Bangladesh is predicted to go underwater. The adaptability of the earth's ecosystems are scaled to massive temperature changes over thousands of years, not decades.[/QUOTE]
The earth has been subjected to far worse trauma. Massive cometary impacts, almost unimaginable spikes in volcanic activity, ice ages showing up in the blink of an eye and then vanishing just as quickly in geological time. The ecosystem will adapt as fast as life can adapt. As we've seen in hospitals, with bacteria developing drug resistance seemingly overnight, life can do it pretty quickly.
[QUOTE=Master_Jeeves;18056369]But yeah, a lot of countries had record lows in the winter of 2008... for example is snowed in Mesa, AZ not to long ago ( I live in Pheonix and my grandparents called and were like wtf!?! )[/QUOTE]
Rapid shifts in global climate do cause instances of extreme weather in both directions, much like jerking a cup of coffee to the right will cause it to slosh out both sides.
~=~analogy king~=~
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[QUOTE=Psycho0124;18056375]Species of fish that are more tolerant of warm water will start to thrive, filling the niches of the declining cold-water species. Same for the corals. These are natural pressures and they've happened many times throughout geological history. Life is still here despite them.[/QUOTE]
Again, you're thinking of changes that happened over millenia, not decades. The kind of shift we're talking about is unprecedented save for natural disasters like meteor strikes and similar phenomena. Nobody's saying all life is going to be wiped out, but the fact that some fish species will survive doesn't mean the fishing industry won't suffer severe losses, which will effect both food production and jobs. In poor parts of the world that rely on fishing to get by it would be catastrophic.
[QUOTE=Psycho0124;18056375]
Species of fish that are more tolerant of warm water will start to thrive, filling the niches of the declining cold-water species. Same for the corals. These are natural pressures and they've happened many times throughout geological history. Life is still here despite them.[/QUOTE]
A reef ecosystem cannot just adapt to sudden changes, corals are very sensitive to every little bit of water chemistry and if it's even altered just a little it could kill off the reef, thus removing the food source for the fish destroying the whole system. It's happening right before our eyes. Not only is the increasing temperature harming the reefs but the invasion of algae is out competing the fragile corals for much needed sunlight.
[QUOTE=Benie;18056190]Statement: I feel global warming is real.
Reason: No it isn't because The Day After Tomorrow scared the shit out of me. But the fact we're getting more rain than normal, and other areas are seeing record heat waves that were set decades ago.
Also, hurricanes seem to be popping up more in the Pacific than the Atlantic, and still heading into the US.
California got hit by the renements of a typhoon that was on the other side of the world.
Fish and coral reefs are dying in our oceans because the water temperature is increasing. The north and south poles are melting at an alarming rate.
Wow. Bad Reading? I thought I was going to see more boxes.[/QUOTE]
Here's a free box. :v:
Oil isn't "clean"...
[QUOTE=TH89;18056299]The entirety of Bangladesh is predicted to go underwater. The adaptability of the earth's ecosystems are scaled to massive temperature changes over thousands of years, not decades.[/QUOTE]
The human race is the seed to it's own destruction . . .
[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/special-report-bangladesh-is-set-to-disappear-under-the-waves-by-the-end-of-the-century-850938.html[/url]
It sounds like they did it to themselves.
[QUOTE=pan_dandy;18056486]Oil isn't "clean"...[/QUOTE]
[img]http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4836/20070824rz1apnukeenergy.jpg[/img]
Just throwing this out there...
Nuclear isn't much of an environmentalist thing.
We have to get rid of the waste somewhere.
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