I think it's more like this:
[img]http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5948/niks.png[/img]
The Torso ends somewereunder his shirt wich makes the legs turn out good
[QUOTE=wewt!;24914923]Color work is good but
[IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/5tv2qa.png[/IMG]
His torso is too long and his leg moving up from his knee is too short, his head is also too small[/QUOTE]
He's wearing his baggy shirt and jeans, man. His legs don't start there. :v:
It still looks like his legs have three joints instead of two.
I've always loved your art Kryten
[QUOTE=krten_2x 4b;24916389]He's wearing his baggy shirt and jeans, man. His legs don't start there. :v:[/QUOTE]
You should move the middle of his pelvis up then
That is part of the baggy bit on the jeans.
What I'm saying is that his wang shouldn't push downwards if the pants are baggy
Alright, here's a picture that shows what I belive are some of the wrongs with this picture.
[IMG]http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8312/7721118sfix.png[/IMG]
First thing, let's talk about the arm.
As you can see, the darkred line represents his upper arm.
The brighter red is the forearm.
The forearm should be roughly the same length as your upper arm, which isn't the case. Even together with the hand it's shorter than the upper arm, which shouldn't be the case if you try to draw an anatomically correct picture.
Now let's talk about the green lines.
(Disregard the green line in his face).
As you can see, the bright green line is where his hips seems to be, now the part where it goes out should be where his jeans are.
So the dark green line should be slightly below bellybutton.
This does not seem to be the case however, let's go to the yellow lines.
The lighter yellow lines are how it should be if it was anatomically correct, it looks good if it werent for the fact that the bellybutton isn't here it should be.
The darker yellow represents where he should have his hips, but as previously mentioned the dark green is where his bellybutton is.
The darker yellow line leading up his spine is roughly three heads tall, which is how tall his chest and stomach should be. They are not, because the dark green is here his belly button is.
I think you should try to draw some basic human anatomy before you draw yourself with various guns and all that, it'll help boost your art tremendeously.
Krten, I love your shading style.
Although the constructive criticism is good, it is not needed on the picture.
I and other people like the way it looks. So i'm going to leave it that way before i mess it up even more.
Stop making all these lame excuses, I spent some of my time hoping to make you a better artist and you dismiss it without even caring what I said.
I said the same things when it was just a mere WIP a long time ago when you had time to fix it, but I guess all you want is praise.
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Also, what other people? I've only seen complaints about it so far.
kryten everyone on SPB was telling you to fix stuff except for maybe grim
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so dont try to pull that
Tbh i didnt notice the slight mismeasurmeants and even if it did it dosent really make a difference. Its his creation he can draw it as he pleases
[QUOTE=Jamesness2;24939157]Tbh i didnt notice the slight mismeasurmeants and even if it did it dosent really make a difference. Its his creation he can draw it as he pleases[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jamesness2;24939157]Its his creation he can draw it as he pleases[/QUOTE]
If he's drawing it for himself he wouldn't have posted it.
[QUOTE]slight mismeasurmeants[/QUOTE]lol
No i mean he drew it, therefore it can look like he wants it to.
With such attitude his art becomes stale and he won't become better.
Simple.
to an extent, ah ive given up caring
You my friend can draw
[QUOTE=Fippe;24958002]With such attitude his art becomes stale and he won't become better.
Simple.[/QUOTE]
That is not true.
I thought i have improved alot in the past 6 months.
Just because i do not take his C&C doesn't mean i won't improve. I have art teachers and friends for that. I just post art here for the hell of it.
Why do you keep going on about how i will improve if i do not listen to you? You're not some kind of art god.
To be honest I haven't really seen your so called "improvements" at all.
I'd say it's the other way, your nazi zombie from february has more correct anatomy than your newer stuff.
[QUOTE=krten_2x 4b;24974726]That is not true.
[/QUOTE]
*EEEEEEEER* Wrong!
CC is to help you improve in your art. It allows you to review your art once more to work out the flaws and improve it. It also helps you to become more of a critical thinker and gives you more eye for detail.
People around here actually take their time to review your art and give you CC; some people call it 'helping others out', but I guess you don't like that and instead of a thank you, you act all arrogant and start sulking. Good luck on improving because with that attitude I don't see that happening.
i wonder if its possible for you to post something here without it being deeply scrutinised by certain people.
[QUOTE=krten_2x 4b;24974726]That is not true.
I thought i have improved alot in the past 6 months.
Just because i do not take his C&C doesn't mean i won't improve. I have art teachers and friends for that. I just post art here for the hell of it.
Why do you keep going on about how i will improve if i do not listen to you? You're not some kind of art god.[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? Your anatomy got [I]worse[/I].
[QUOTE=krten_2x 4b;24974726]That is not true.
I thought i have improved alot in the past 6 months.
Just because i do not take his C&C doesn't mean i won't improve. I have art teachers and friends for that. I just post art here for the hell of it.
Why do you keep going on about how i will improve if i do not listen to you? You're not some kind of art god.[/QUOTE]
I am not an art god, yes. In fact, I kind of suck in MSP art. That's why I haven't criticized your recent work.
I only criticized your attitude.
[QUOTE=krten_2x 4b;24974726]That is not true.
I thought i have improved alot in the past 6 months.
Just because i do not take his C&C doesn't mean i won't improve. I have art teachers and friends for that. I just post art here for the hell of it.
Why do you keep going on about how i will improve if i do not listen to you? You're not some kind of art god.[/QUOTE]
Does people have to be better than you for the criticism to work? Is that what it's about? Fippe being not as accomplished as you?
You post art here, you can be sure as hell that people will both praise and criticize you.
Don't want CC? Then don't fucking post here, simple as that.
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[QUOTE=Ohforf;24978895]You thought you've improved alot, because you don't listen to others. Sure you can think you're a hot shot but it's not your call to say if it's good or not if you release it to the public.
Also I can't really see any improving from you, you still have problems with anatomy even after many and many helpful posts and all you're really doing is the same shit all over again.
[B]You should really try drawing new characters ect. and work on your anatomy.[/B][/QUOTE]
This is the best tip, work on simple anatomy and draw somebody else other than your self-inserted character. Try something new, because to be honest your artistic talent has stopped breathing and is slowly regressing because you won't try new things.
Really, I don't see the point of this fight. I think that krten should get over himself and realize that people giving him criticisms are just trying to help improve him as an artist, and pretty much everyone else is overreacting to his attitude.
[QUOTE=Fippe;24981665]I am not an art god, yes. In fact, I kind of suck in MSP art. That's why I haven't criticized your recent work.
I only criticized your attitude.[/QUOTE]
Everybody has the right to give constructive criticism, paint god or not. Everyone have the capacity to see when something looks odd/wrong, and shouldn't stop you from giving CC.
It shouldn't stop anyone from giving CC, just pointing out flaws is enough and can (or atleast should) make the artist watch his art with a new fresh eye.
It's very easy for you to go blind with your own art and not notice flaws because you've spent so much time with it and don't want to change it because that would mean you'd have to redraw it, but such is the life for an artist. You're going to have to throw away a lot of work (figuratively speaking) to continue creating newer and better work.
[QUOTE=DudeGuyKT;24981822]Really, I don't see the point of this fight. I think that krten should get over himself and realize that people giving him criticisms are just trying to help improve him as an artist, and pretty much everyone else is overreacting to his attitude.[/QUOTE]
It gets annoying after the fourth time, I can understand people getting frustrated.
[QUOTE=Gregah;24981830]Everybody has the right to give constructive criticism, paint god or not. Everyone have the capacity to see when something looks odd/wrong, and shouldn't stop you from giving CC.
It shouldn't stop anyone from giving CC, just pointing out flaws is enough and can (or atleast should) make the artist watch his art with a new fresh eye.
It's very easy for you to go blind with your own art and not notice flaws because you've spent so much time with it and don't want to change it because that would mean you'd have to redraw it, but such is the life for an artist. You're going to have to throw away a lot of work (figuratively speaking) to continue creating newer and better work.[/QUOTE]
I don't see a point in criticizing him.
It's obvious he won't listen.
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