• The Depression Chat - Symptoms, Assistance, Medicines and More.
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[QUOTE=bionic0n3;28273791] I have been thinking a lot about suicide so that they would have less of a burden but have not done it because I still have hope I'll find a job, though unemployment in my area is around 17% and I have no transportation for an out of town commute. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE] You're in a pretty bad spot to be considering suicide if you don't get a job. All the costs with handling someones death [especially if they dont know what killed you], including funeral and all those other payments will surely throw your parents under more. They wont hesistate to spend thousands more for your funeral. Not to mention the emotional costs too. You would only burden everyone if you did kill yourself. You're doing all you could right now job hunting. If you honestly feel you could do a bit more, try to do a bit more. From the looks of it though, you've done all you can in this REALLY bad job market. Your parents understand the difference between not being able to help out, and not CHOOSING to help out. You obviously arent a slouch with a high school education eating in a basement and hogging family resources without any intention of giving back. A few of my friends have been in the same "slump". Its a terrible feeling of stagnation and thats when the depression kicks in. One friend was in the position similar to yours. He was really considering suicide. It took a while, but before he knew it, he was out of this slump and a happy go lucky guy. So point is: Suicide would burden your family financially, and for the rest of their lives. You're doing all you really can right now in a terrible job market. And when you wait out the storm, things will be on the up and up for you. Please believe me on this. [QUOTE=genkaz92;28276321] Could you describe which Zoloft related effects you experienced in the area of productivity and overall motivation?[/QUOTE] Generally, my productivity and motivation increased with Zoloft because I wasn't in this terrible lowly mood. Trying to do homework when you are depressed is a terrible thing, mostly because you think about how much you hate homework, and about how depressed you are. So I avoided homework all together because in the end doing it would make me think of suicide [since there was really no distraction while doing it]. But with Zoloft I got a nice kick of positive energy, and was able to do homework pretty well when I was on it. I want to be sure to note that Zoloft at 100MG took about 1 month to gradually kick in. Zoloft worked for me pretty well, but not so much for a friend of mine. He said he was feeling a little numb. In my case however, it worked out pretty great with temporary side effects. While I dont find Zoloft a cure for depression by a long shot, I can credit it to making a few years of my depression VERY tolerable. At first I was incredibly suspicious about pills. After all, how do movies and TV display them: -People in mental hospitals who talk to flowers and sofas take pills -Utterly insane killers snap when they dont take their pills -People who are deemed insane in a comical matter are asked "if they forgot to take their pill this morning" However, it hardly works like that. USA Today States [i]"About 10% of Americans — or 27 million people — were taking antidepressants in 2005"[/i] That figure has climbed since. I have recently gone around asking friends if they knew people who were taking anti-depressants. Bosses, workers, students, and even TEACHERS take anti-depressants. Media has portrayed these pills as tools for the insane, when in reality, alot of people you didn't expect take them regularly. Its very common place.
It is just that at the moment I am on a medication known as Lexapro, and I get the impression that it is not as effective as it should be. The problem is that it solves depression exclusively while leaving other areas such as a lack of productivity untouched. In other words, I do not necessarily feel suicidal anymore, but I still often find myself to be ridiculously unproductive and time wasting, even considering the fact that I usually have mountainloads of time to be doing endless amounts of possible things.
Does your depression bring about laziness or unproductiveness? Im generally a bump on a log, so when I was depressed, I really didn't see any difference in my leisurely or work activites. Are you saying you just lack motivation to do certain things? Are we talking work/school related activites? As you probably notice, I didn't feel affected by this side of depression, thus I cant relate very well.
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;28277847]you bring it on yourself.[/QUOTE] That's really offensive to me, as it comes from mental illness.
Do any of you guys take medicines just because they're handed to you by the doctor or do all of you only take them because you really really need them? Been suffering on/off with depression (diagnosed, obviously) through out all of my teen years, and I often found that while medicines would help somewhat, it wouldn't cure my phases, so a lot of the time when dealing with a depression I stopped taking the medication and just got the people close to me to help me instead.
[QUOTE=genkaz92;28269564]I would highly appreciate if you told us a few more details about it, does it make you more productive overall? Does it also make you more productive voluntary activity wise?[/QUOTE] It doesn't really give me any motivation, but it gets rid of anything that demotivates you. If I'm just a little buzzed, I don't even mind doing homework. It's just good to take a load off. If you're like me, you "bottle up" a lot of your emotions and then explode later. Weed makes that "bottle" lose pressure. I don't even smoke that often. 0-2 times a week, depending on my schedule. However, I highly recommend you do not use weed when you are feeling depressed just to feel better. That's how you get addicted (only mentally addicted, but still). And now, I'll sing a lovely song for you all. *Ahem* (to the tune of row your boat) Roll, Roll, Roll a joint, twist it at the ends! Light it up and take a puff then pass it to a friend! [editline]25th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=McNab;28278081]I would love nothing more then to shoot up a bowl to see what that does to me. Only problem is that I got no way of buying it. I have the money I just need a source.[/QUOTE] Talk to some friends, and ask some of them if they are pot heads (be careful who you talk to though!). You never know who may be one. A lot of my stoner friends do not appear as stoners at all. I was shocked to find out they were. [editline]25th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Potatoes;28273484]Wall-o-text[/QUOTE] I used a combination of all three. Also, I experienced the exact same symtoms with Zoloft as you did, but happened over about a 2 weeks.
[QUOTE=soccerskyman;28286357]Also, I experienced the exact same symtoms with Zoloft as you did, but happened over about a 2 weeks.[/QUOTE] Losing the ability to orgasm temporarily gave me an insight to what its like when im 90. Even though I spilled my deepest darkest secrets to my counsellor, I could never admit that little sexual problem. I had to go through this every time I voluntarily/lazily skipped taking pills for a week or two. :argh: [sp]So take your medication like you're supposed to![/sp]
I have noticed that being with friends and such can actually make everything better. This would probably be my case but alas I have no real friends. I'm home schooled and live 2 miles away from anything.
[QUOTE=McNab;28287268]I have noticed that being with friends and such can actually make everything better. This would probably be my case but alas I have no real friends. I'm home schooled and live 2 miles away from anything.[/QUOTE] Well shit. Sorry to hear that.
Well it's not something you can just get up and change
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;28277847]I got over depression, after being so for about a year and a half. I can say it's all down to poor life decisions and lazyness, you bring it on yourself. Glad I fixed my life.[/QUOTE] Glad to see you were causing your own depression, there are people out there with actual problems.
[QUOTE=McNab;28287268]I have noticed that being with friends and such can actually make everything better. This would probably be my case but alas I have no real friends. I'm home schooled and live 2 miles away from anything.[/QUOTE] Hey, I was homeschooled for three years, and during the last year my mom had cancer, so I spent most of my time alone, truly isolated. I understand how that can be. I was forced to go back to public school and it wasn't until I realized how lovely being around people all the time was that I realized how lonely I was before. But there will be an end to the loneliness. [editline]26th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Mac2468;28291768]Glad to see you were causing your own depression, there are people out there with actual problems.[/QUOTE] Hey now, a person can make him or herself depressed, and that can be just as much of a problem. It actually was a good thing and a difficult thing that he pulled himself out of it.
I've gone to psycologist for 3 years now and it's helped a little but really not much and at the start of February I was supposed to get a letter from them with a new appointment but I still haven't gotten it :geno: I'm really starting to need another meeting soon
[QUOTE=ConvolutedLogic;28292007] Hey now, a person can make him or herself depressed, and that can be just as much of a problem. It actually was a good thing and a difficult thing that he pulled himself out of it.[/QUOTE] Someone being a lazy pile and doing nothing with their life isn't the same thing as someone with a mental disorder.
Been depressed for a while, started taking some medicine about a month back and now these last couple of days I've been feeling alot better, I hope it's not just a temporarily change.
Just a heads up for anybody thinking about SSRI's: Don't do take them. They will make you emotionally numb.
[QUOTE=Extroll;28302538]Just a heads up for anybody thinking about SSRI's: Don't do take them. They will make you emotionally numb.[/QUOTE]A fair trade, in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Extroll;28302538]Just a heads up for anybody thinking about SSRI's: Don't do take them. They will make you emotionally numb.[/QUOTE] Considering the fact that so far my emotions has been doing nothing but causing destruction and problems, keeping them confined is a part of my interest. Not necessarily all of them, but a certain amount.
[QUOTE=Extroll;28302538]Just a heads up for anybody thinking about SSRI's: Don't do take them. They will make you emotionally numb.[/QUOTE] Good thing I started them when I was 8 and I don't know the difference, eh?
I've been more or less depressed for the last 4 years. I've never talked with anyone about it. Feels like shit.
I am so fucking stressed that I sometimes cough blood, and have nose bleed nearly every day. My school is so fucking tense, yet the education is shit. We have so much shit everytime and the mentor is a douche. I have zero motivation to life, I'm 17 and I don't enjoy it, fucking hell I suck. I don't look bad, and I'm rather tall. I just don't have enough will or courage to fucking stand up for what I want. That's when it comes to girls, but when in person I'm probably the most honest person and probably a big douche because of this. I have even set a fucking date for suicide :smithicide:, I am in constant fucking pain always. grumpy as a motherfucker and I feel anger contstantly. I have this hole in my chest which in some situations makes it hard to breathe and I don't like showing it off when on the beach or something, shit hurt sometimes too. I hate everything and I don't get motivated to do anything. My mother and father thinks I'm lazy, I probably am, but I can't fucking help it. I dont have the stamina to do anything. I feel like a waste, and at night, when the real depression comes, I don't even feel my fucking face, I feel so dead. The only thing keeping me at bay at the moment is a very special friend of mine, fucking love her. This shit actually felt good, thanks. :unsmith:
[QUOTE=Mac2468;28296955]Someone being a lazy pile and doing nothing with their life isn't the same thing as someone with a mental disorder.[/QUOTE] No it's not, but it can still make a person feel horrible.
[QUOTE=Mac2468;28291768]Glad to see you were causing your own depression, there are people out there with actual problems.[/QUOTE] The actual problem is brought on because of stuff like that.
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;28313032] My mother and father thinks I'm lazy, I probably am, but I can't fucking help it. I dont have the stamina to do anything. This shit actually felt good, thanks. :unsmith:[/QUOTE] I definitely agree with the fact that laziness and lack of motivation or lack of causes for motivation are indeed different things.
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;28313032]I am so fucking stressed that I sometimes cough blood, and have nose bleed nearly every day. My school is so fucking tense, yet the education is shit. We have so much shit everytime and the mentor is a douche. I have zero motivation to life, I'm 17 and I don't enjoy it, fucking hell I suck. I don't look bad, and I'm rather tall. I just don't have enough will or courage to fucking stand up for what I want. That's when it comes to girls, but when in person I'm probably the most honest person and probably a big douche because of this. I have even set a fucking date for suicide :smithicide:, I am in constant fucking pain always. grumpy as a motherfucker and I feel anger contstantly. I have this hole in my chest which in some situations makes it hard to breathe and I don't like showing it off when on the beach or something, shit hurt sometimes too. I hate everything and I don't get motivated to do anything. My mother and father thinks I'm lazy, I probably am, but I can't fucking help it. I dont have the stamina to do anything. I feel like a waste, and at night, when the real depression comes, I don't even feel my fucking face, I feel so dead. The only thing keeping me at bay at the moment is a very special friend of mine, fucking love her. This shit actually felt good, thanks. :unsmith:[/QUOTE] I feel and am the same except for the suicidal thoughts, and since I'm better at giving other people advice than executing them myself, let me tell you something. Don't force yourself to do any task you think it's too absorbing for you until you get better, because you'll just strangle yourself inside. You also don't appreciate your friend enough, she is your [b]STRONGEST[/b] remedy at the moment, and if she's more outgoing than you, ask her to invite you to some group meeting, a party, or whatever, just to meet with other people. It doesn't have to be an eye-to-eye chat, becuase I know it might be awkward, but you can participate in some larger groups. It may sound (or not) challenging to you, but really the only thing you have to do is ask your friend for some outer help. You should also tell your parents about your state of mind. Not specifically ask them for help, that's up to you, but they should know just to help them understand.
Zyprexa - Makes you sleepy. Celexa - Makes you hyper and helps with impulse control Abilify - Makes you hyper and sleepy AT THE SAME TIME.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;28326433]Zyprexa - Makes you sleepy. Celexa - Makes you hyper and helps with impulse control Abilify - Makes you hyper and sleepy AT THE SAME TIME.[/QUOTE] That is very interesting, I would highly appreciate if a few other individuals could share their experiences with various medications. I have a scheduled appointment with a doctor relatively soon, and will discuss not only the possibility of me having ADHD, but also discussing a medication change due to me being under a strong and logical impression that lexapro is simply not effective enough. I also remember having a few left over cymbalta pills, I will be taking them for a few days once again to observe the effects. My objective at the moment is to basically test various medications until I find the one that corrects my difficulties in the most pleasant manner. I am not only interested in a medication that removes the depression effects (which lexapro already somewhat does) but also the one which preferably either removes counter motivation effects, or creates positive motivation effects.
I've been on and off fluoxetine and citalopram for about a year - I absolutely hate them bleh I'm a mess without them though :\
[QUOTE=Flip pl;28326339]I feel and am the same except for the suicidal thoughts, and since I'm better at giving other people advice than executing them myself, let me tell you something. Don't force yourself to do any task you think it's too absorbing for you until you get better, because you'll just strangle yourself inside. You also don't appreciate your friend enough, she is your [b]STRONGEST[/b] remedy at the moment, and if she's more outgoing than you, ask her to invite you to some group meeting, a party, or whatever, just to meet with other people. It doesn't have to be an eye-to-eye chat, becuase I know it might be awkward, but you can participate in some larger groups. It may sound (or not) challenging to you, but really the only thing you have to do is ask your friend for some outer help. You should also tell your parents about your state of mind. Not specifically ask them for help, that's up to you, but they should know just to help them understand.[/QUOTE] Cheers for the advices. It's not like she is the only friend I have, and this is the first time I've written about it. She is the thing for me, I just feel more alive with her then with my other friends. I don't feel like a can do that talk to my parents, I'm really close to them, to close for them to expect me of even feeling depression. I'm not shy over being and talking with a bunch of people, and I often end up being the "leader" or what you call it. Most people would never think of me as this, that's why it is hard for me to actually talk face-to-face with friends about it.
[QUOTE=Extroll;28302538]Just a heads up for anybody thinking about SSRI's: Don't do take them. They will make you emotionally numb.[/QUOTE] sign me up fuck emotions seriously I'm sick of feeling like dirt [editline]28th February 2011[/editline] Also if any may assist me, I don't know the number for anything where I could get diagnosed and then get help with my depression I'm a little sure I am depressed and I just need somewhere to let go of my feelings in confidentiality so they may stop tearing me up at every moment things local to the uk/london would help thanks to you in advance :h:
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