• The Depression Chat - Symptoms, Assistance, Medicines and More.
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[QUOTE=SSBMX;30812748] Even things that usually make me happy, they just don't help.[/QUOTE] If they are things that make you happy then they help. Unless you mean they no longer make you happy.
At this point in time, no they are not making me happy.
[QUOTE=SSBMX;30812939]At this point in time, no they are not making me happy.[/QUOTE] Do you know why you're depressed? or have an idea of why?
Yea, my boyfriend is being a dumb cunt.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;30811888]Why were you saying you were depressed earlier in this thread if its been working for 12 years? Unless your medication never really worked. Just seeing a slight contradiction here.[/QUOTE] There's a big difference between being clinically depressed and sad. I'm just sad.
Honestly, what's this thread for? Seem to me like it's a bunch of "depressed" people wallowing in self pity. I am by no means saying that this goes for all of you, but a lot of the time, just thinking that you're depressed will start this mean mother fucker circle of self pity, and I'm willing to bet that this goes for a couple of you guys, even those of you taking medication. I'm bipolar, it runs in my family on my father's side, and there's little to nothing I can do about it, however, I'm generally one of the most happy and outgoing people most of my friends know - that's how they'd describe me if asked. If you're constantly in the mind state "I'm depressed, I just walk around in a fog all day", that's exactly how your life is going to be. One big miserable fog.
[QUOTE=SaWAH;30813124]Honestly, what's this thread for? Seem to me like it's a bunch of "depressed" people wallowing in self pity. I am by no means saying that this goes for all of you, but a lot of the time, just thinking that you're depressed will start this mean mother fucker circle of self pity, and I'm willing to bet that this goes for a couple of you guys, even those of you taking medication. I'm bipolar, it runs in my family on my father's side, and there's little to nothing I can do about it, however, I'm generally one of the most happy and outgoing people most of my friends know - that's how they'd describe me if asked. If you're constantly in the mind state "I'm depressed, I just walk around in a fog all day", that's exactly how your life is going to be. One big miserable fog.[/QUOTE] Sometimes, venting is the best that you can get.
[QUOTE=SaWAH;30813124]Honestly, what's this thread for? [/QUOTE] I think it serves for a way for some people to vent, get advice, and to have discussions. [editline]30th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SSBMX;30813177]Sometimes, venting is the best that you can get.[/QUOTE] Ninja'd
[QUOTE=SSBMX;30813045]Yea, my boyfriend is being a dumb cunt.[/QUOTE] Today, I said I would get off of work at 3. He was fine with that. We get really backed up and I had to stay an extra half hour and he acted like it was my choice. After a 7 hour shift, I don't want to have to spend another half hour in a 90 degree bakery.
You cant really force yourself to be happy if you are depressed. You cant tell yourself "okay im going to stop being depressed now" and start living a happy life with "living in the sunlight" playing on the background. If it only was that easy. One reason why i visit this thread is that i dont feel alone in here, that there are people in a lot worse situations than I am. That way i realize that im not doing so bad.
[QUOTE=Str4fe;30813255]You cant really force yourself to be happy if you are depressed. You cant tell yourself "okay im going to stop being depressed now".[/QUOTE] I think the best thing someone can do is to find out why they are depressed, and try to address the issue. Be it social,personal, and/or family issues. Finding the will and how to addressing the cause I think is what holds most people back from pulling themselves out of their depression. Which is why therapy is great for people who have a hard time with it.
[QUOTE=SaWAH;30813124]Honestly, what's this thread for? Seem to me like it's a bunch of "depressed" people wallowing in self pity. I am by no means saying that this goes for all of you, but a lot of the time, just thinking that you're depressed will start this mean mother fucker circle of self pity, and I'm willing to bet that this goes for a couple of you guys, even those of you taking medication. I'm bipolar, it runs in my family on my father's side, and there's little to nothing I can do about it, however, I'm generally one of the most happy and outgoing people most of my friends know - that's how they'd describe me if asked. If you're constantly in the mind state "I'm depressed, I just walk around in a fog all day", that's exactly how your life is going to be. One big miserable fog.[/QUOTE] You have a point. One of the reasons I believe I feel bad and have some kind of belief that I've been "different" or "worse" ever since I started feeling like this, is that I just started thinking I was fucked up in the brain and then it got ingrained. It's hard though. It's hard to challenge your thinking that you've developed over about a 1 year period. It's hard to tell yourself you're happy when your feelings say otherwise. But you still have a point.
Well I know. I'm 21, and was diagnosed with BPD before my teen years (even though they rarely make diagnoses on children) - it's not something which has anything to do with any issues or any shit like that, it's solely because my mental state is whack. It has taken me years to battle it (somewhat) but I still get the occasional relapse - it happens like 1-2 times a year, and last for anything from a couple of weeks to 6 months. The past years I've been able to keep it at a minimum. What I'm trying to get at is that with a lot of will strength, most people should be able to battle depression, even if it's just a whacky mental state. I've done it, and if I can do it - everybody can.
[QUOTE=SaWAH;30814243]I've done it, and if I can do it - everybody can.[/QUOTE] That's like saying since Barack Obama became president, everybody can become president. :regd09:
[QUOTE=br4ww;30815323]That's like saying since Barack Obama became president, everybody can become president. :regd09:[/QUOTE] Well, that's a little ridiculous. Becoming happy is a much more realistic goal than becoming president. [editline]jkdflsa[/editline] You know, it is okay to vent, but it seems like that's all this thread is. It's okay because sometimes wallowing in your depression can actually be therapeutic. But a lot of you come here seeking help but then shoot down anyone's words of inspiration or ideas. Sure, it may not work for you, but you've got to keep in mind no one that is offering help here is a professional. You can't expect some life changing answer from a facepunch thread. So instead of bitching at people for not liking their ideas, recognize that people like SaWAH are posting because they care enough to at least try to help. The suggestions may or may not work for you, but you should at least be appreciative instead of catty or rude to justify the 'noone understands meee' argument. You may not ever find someone who understands you. People rarely even understand themselves. But if you're lucky, you might find someone who at least cares for you. Genuinely. And that's not going to happen if you snap at anyone trying to help because you're too bitter to accept a little kindness.
[QUOTE=SaWAH;30813124]Honestly, what's this thread for? Seem to me like it's a bunch of "depressed" people wallowing in self pity. I am by no means saying that this goes for all of you, but a lot of the time, just thinking that you're depressed will start this mean mother fucker circle of self pity, and I'm willing to bet that this goes for a couple of you guys, even those of you taking medication. I'm bipolar, it runs in my family on my father's side, and there's little to nothing I can do about it, however, I'm generally one of the most happy and outgoing people most of my friends know - that's how they'd describe me if asked. If you're constantly in the mind state "I'm depressed, I just walk around in a fog all day", that's exactly how your life is going to be. One big miserable fog.[/QUOTE] tl;dr stop being depressed, be happy.
Am I that believes that the majority of depression cases are fake and made up? I know some people have real depression (i.e. seeing your mom and dad die right in front of your eyes as a baby, etc.) and that should usually be followed up on by a therapist, if you're that kind of person. If you want to see some lame bullshit, just click here and read about "Facebook Depression." [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42298789/ns/health-mental_health/t/docs-warn-about-teens-facebook-depression/[/url] Now when I hear of people's "depressions" I hear things like people losing their job, kicked out of school, boyfriend/girlfriend trouble, children, their phone was taking away, or school is "stressing" (trust me, I've heard those last two before). I think the majority of people's depression is caused by them always thinking they are depressed and that they need a way out. Thinking, "I'm so depressed I can't handle this anymore so I'm going to lay in my bed for a month." I'm in no way saying the way you solve it is by thinking "I'm a winner... blah blah blah," but the way you solve these "serious problems" is by confronting the issue and getting over it. You're girlfriend cheated on you? Tell yourself that she's a lying scumbag that doesn't deserve what you can bring and that you'll just go out and find another girl. I think "depression" now-a-days is overly used and has been re-defined, in my eyes, as being weak and not having a great scale of self-esteem and/or confidence in yourself. Teens these days (from what I see because I'm a teen as well) are always trying to find the easy way out of things: Aww, poor Jimmy doesn't want to go to school because his little feel-ers was hurt by Sally? And the parent (and a bad one) usually responds by re-enforcing this bad behavior by saying: Sure if you don't want to go to school and waste your life by sleeping-in for the next week, I'll just call the school and tell them you're sick. Too many people are being coddle and babied from their parents and all that is causing is people constantly going around thinking that their life is horrible and that they're going to take the next couples days off of work and- oops, they've just been fired, and then THAT causes a god damn depression. Tell me what you guys think. I think the majority, not all of it, is bogus.
[QUOTE=bassslapper10;30854309]Am I that believes that the majority of depression cases are fake and made up? I know some people have real depression (i.e. seeing your mom and dad die right in front of your eyes as a baby, etc.) and that should usually be followed up on by a therapist, if you're that kind of person. If you want to see some lame bullshit, just click here and read about "Facebook Depression." [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42298789/ns/health-mental_health/t/docs-warn-about-teens-facebook-depression/[/url] Now when I hear of people's "depressions" I hear things like people losing their job, kicked out of school, boyfriend/girlfriend trouble, children, their phone was taking away, or school is "stressing" (trust me, I've heard those last two before). I think the majority of people's depression is caused by them always thinking they are depressed and that they need a way out. Thinking, "I'm so depressed I can't handle this anymore so I'm going to lay in my bed for a month." I'm in no way saying the way you solve it is by thinking "I'm a winner... blah blah blah," but the way you solve these "serious problems" is by confronting the issue and getting over it. You're girlfriend cheated on you? Tell yourself that she's a lying scumbag that doesn't deserve what you can bring and that you'll just go out and find another girl. I think "depression" now-a-days is overly used and has been re-defined, in my eyes, as being weak and not having a great scale of self-esteem and/or confidence in yourself. Teens these days (from what I see because I'm a teen as well) are always trying to find the easy way out of things: Aww, poor Jimmy doesn't want to go to school because his little feel-ers was hurt by Sally? And the parent (and a bad one) usually responds by re-enforcing this bad behavior by saying: Sure if you don't want to go to school and want to sleep for the next week, I'll just call the school and tell them you're sick. Tell me what you guys think. I think the majority, not all of it, is bogus.[/QUOTE] I don't think you have a clue about what depression is. Yeah there is a small minority of kids who act depressed for attention. You can be depressed over trivial issues and still get in a pretty bad situation. To say that it is all fake is asinine.
You know what depresses me? That so many really fantastic people are depressed. There are 26 pages in this thread of people who just aren't happy. That's what makes me unhappy.
[QUOTE=bassslapper10;30854309]Am I that believes that the majority of depression cases are fake and made up? I know some people have real depression (i.e. seeing your mom and dad die right in front of your eyes as a baby, etc.) and that should usually be followed up on by a therapist, if you're that kind of person. If you want to see some lame bullshit, just click here and read about "Facebook Depression." [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42298789/ns/health-mental_health/t/docs-warn-about-teens-facebook-depression/[/url] Now when I hear of people's "depressions" I hear things like people losing their job, kicked out of school, boyfriend/girlfriend trouble, children, their phone was taking away, or school is "stressing" (trust me, I've heard those last two before). I think the majority of people's depression is caused by them always thinking they are depressed and that they need a way out. Thinking, "I'm so depressed I can't handle this anymore so I'm going to lay in my bed for a month." I'm in no way saying the way you solve it is by thinking "I'm a winner... blah blah blah," but the way you solve these "serious problems" is by confronting the issue and getting over it. You're girlfriend cheated on you? Tell yourself that she's a lying scumbag that doesn't deserve what you can bring and that you'll just go out and find another girl. I think "depression" now-a-days is overly used and has been re-defined, in my eyes, as being weak and not having a great scale of self-esteem and/or confidence in yourself. Teens these days (from what I see because I'm a teen as well) are always trying to find the easy way out of things: Aww, poor Jimmy doesn't want to go to school because his little feel-ers was hurt by Sally? And the parent (and a bad one) usually responds by re-enforcing this bad behavior by saying: Sure if you don't want to go to school and waste your life by sleeping-in for the next week, I'll just call the school and tell them you're sick. Too many people are being coddle and babied from their parents and all that is causing is people constantly going around thinking that their life is horrible and that they're going to take the next couples days off of work and- oops, they've just been fired, and then THAT causes a god damn depression. Tell me what you guys think. I think the majority, not all of it, is bogus.[/QUOTE] Do you have empathy? Cause you seem to lack it.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;30854431]I don't think you have a clue about what depression is. Yeah there is a small minority of kids who act depressed for attention. You can be depressed over trivial issues and still get in a pretty bad situation. [b]To say that it is all fake[/b] is asinine.[/QUOTE] I didn't say all depression is fake. If you read what I wrote, I said there are serious cases of depression, but it's not the majority. [QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;30854475]tl;dr: "I'm a dingus and [b]I believe all[/b] depression is made up by lazy kids"[/QUOTE] What is with you guys and adding things to what I said?
[QUOTE=bassslapper10;30854675]I didn't say all depression is fake. If you read what I wrote, I said there are serious cases of depression, but it's not the majority. What is with you guys and adding things to what I said?[/QUOTE] The majority may as well be all. Also with your shit grammar its pretty hard to make sense of the blog of text you put up.
Bro, I am just curious. But did you think it was a good idea to go into a thread full of people with depression and basically say "LOL WUT YOU GUYZ FUELZ IS FOAKE TROLOL" ? or did you know you were going to be berated?
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;30854710]The majority may as well be all. Also with your shit grammar its pretty hard to make sense of the blog of text you put up.[/QUOTE] Do you want me to point out the differences between "majority" and "all"? [QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;30854711][B]You're a moron.[/B][/QUOTE] Thanks for the personal attack.
[QUOTE=bassslapper10;30854789]Do you want me to point out the differences between "majority" and "all"? Thanks for the personal attack.[/QUOTE] You pretty much personally attacked everyone in this thread when you said the "majority" (aka mostly everyone) here and everywhere is not really depressed. [editline]2nd July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=bassslapper10;30854789]Do you want me to point out the differences between "majority" and "all"?.[/QUOTE] The majority you make it out to be may was well be 99% of depressed people. So yeah, I consider 99% to be pretty much everyone.
[QUOTE=bassslapper10;30854309]Am I that believes that the majority of depression cases are fake and made up? I know some people have real depression (i.e. seeing your mom and dad die right in front of your eyes as a baby, etc.) and that should usually be followed up on by a therapist, if you're that kind of person. If you want to see some lame bullshit, just click here and read about "Facebook Depression." [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42298789/ns/health-mental_health/t/docs-warn-about-teens-facebook-depression/[/url] Now when I hear of people's "depressions" I hear things like people losing their job, kicked out of school, boyfriend/girlfriend trouble, children, their phone was taking away, or school is "stressing" (trust me, I've heard those last two before). I think the majority of people's depression is caused by them always thinking they are depressed and that they need a way out. Thinking, "I'm so depressed I can't handle this anymore so I'm going to lay in my bed for a month." I'm in no way saying the way you solve it is by thinking "I'm a winner... blah blah blah," but the way you solve these "serious problems" is by confronting the issue and getting over it. You're girlfriend cheated on you? Tell yourself that she's a lying scumbag that doesn't deserve what you can bring and that you'll just go out and find another girl. I think "depression" now-a-days is overly used and has been re-defined, in my eyes, as being weak and not having a great scale of self-esteem and/or confidence in yourself. Teens these days (from what I see because I'm a teen as well) are always trying to find the easy way out of things: Aww, poor Jimmy doesn't want to go to school because his little feel-ers was hurt by Sally? And the parent (and a bad one) usually responds by re-enforcing this bad behavior by saying: Sure if you don't want to go to school and waste your life by sleeping-in for the next week, I'll just call the school and tell them you're sick. Too many people are being coddle and babied from their parents and all that is causing is people constantly going around thinking that their life is horrible and that they're going to take the next couples days off of work and- oops, they've just been fired, and then THAT causes a god damn depression. Tell me what you guys think. I think the majority, not all of it, is bogus.[/QUOTE] you do realize depression is a condition not a reaction to a specific event, right? Events may precipitate it (like a death of a parent, etc) but that's not the same thing as depression. Lots of people have someone close to them die, or experience another emotionally traumatic event, and move on. You have no idea what depression as an illness is, and you obviously don't know the difference between [i]feeling depressed[/i] and [i]having depression[/i].
Bassslapper, I agree with you, but for a complete different reason. To me, there's being depressed. Then there's being sad about life. To me, the two things are not the same at all - because being sad about life is something which depends entirely on you. Now, I'm by no means saying that this state of mind is healthy and good, and not something which should be taken care of, because obviously, it still causes a lot of distress, however, it is not depression. People are way too quick to jump the depression-wagon. It's like "I feel sad, I must be depressed" - not knowing what depression feels like at all. Then they google and tell themselves "Oh, this is what a depression is, well.. I guess that could explain why I'm feeling like I'm feeling", and they'll go to the doctor and get some pills, because it's easy as fuck to get diagnosed with depression these days, because most doctors don't want to deal with some kid complaining about being "depressed" all the time. [editline]3rd July 2011[/editline] My bet is that half of the people in this thread would be surprised if they ever experienced a real depression - surprised at how different it is to what they're having now.
[QUOTE=SaWAH;30857383]Bassslapper, I agree with you, but for a complete different reason. To me, there's being depressed. Then there's being sad about life. To me, the two things are not the same at all - because being sad about life is something which depends entirely on you. Now, I'm by no means saying that this state of mind is healthy and good, and not something which should be taken care of, because obviously, it still causes a lot of distress, however, it is not depression. People are way too quick to jump the depression-wagon. It's like "I feel sad, I must be depressed" - not knowing what depression feels like at all. Then they google and tell themselves "Oh, this is what a depression is, well.. I guess that could explain why I'm feeling like I'm feeling", and they'll go to the doctor and get some pills, because it's easy as fuck to get diagnosed with depression these days, because most doctors don't want to deal with some kid complaining about being "depressed" all the time. [editline]3rd July 2011[/editline] My bet is that half of the people in this thread would be surprised if they ever experienced a real depression - surprised at how different it is to what they're having now.[/QUOTE] I think you're mixing up depression and clinical depression. [editline]2nd July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SaWAH;30857383] My bet is that half of the people in this thread would be surprised if they ever experienced a real depression - surprised at how different it is to what they're having now.[/QUOTE] I don't know if i should call you stupid, or arrogant. And I'll feel guilty as hell if i call you the earlier
Well I could say the same for you. You're not depressed unless you're clinically depressed.
Depression and clinically depressed are two different things. Yes. But to ignore/state that everyone who is not clinically depressed, or is not clinically depressed yet is faking/doesn't know what depression feels like is bullshit.
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