The Depression Chat - Symptoms, Assistance, Medicines and More.
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This appeal to strength may seem a good path but only works for some people. Depression is different based on the person, some people feel powerless and weak and the appeal to strength is just rubbing it in.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31682023]I understand why you interpreted what I said as that, and my bad and sorry if you see it that way.
It takes a strong person to just get help, I am not saying the people in this thread are weak. The people who read this thread and are depressed are strong enough just to click the link. The people who post here for help are taking the step of getting help, even if FP can offer little help, it is still a great leap for people and takes a strong person just to do that.[/QUOTE]
Well better late then never I guess.
Definitely not the thread to ride into on your high horse though.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;31682078]This appeal to strength may seem a good path but only works for some people. Depression is different based on the person, some people feel powerless and weak and the appeal to strength is just rubbing it in.[/QUOTE]
the appeal to strength doesn't work with a person who is legitimately depressed
depression isn't the same as sadness/having a bad day
[QUOTE=Devodiere;31682078]This appeal to strength may seem a good path but only works for some people. Depression is different based on the person, some people feel powerless and weak and the appeal to strength is just rubbing it in.[/QUOTE]
The appeal to strength probably works good with people who are experiencing depression because of their situation, but definitely not clinical depression.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31682097]The appeal to strength probably works good with people who are experiencing depression because of their situation, but definitely not clinical depression.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking about clinical depression caused by genetics,chem imbalance etc etc.
Mainly just depression. Never did I mention the word clinical in my post.
[editline]12th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=JDK721;31682076]there's no other way to interpret it
you stated it pretty explicitly. I think you should just stop posting in this thread[/QUOTE]
You're just butt-hurt. Every time I see you post, you're always angry or upset, or demanding that someone stops posting in the thread. I'm just putting my opinions down, even if you don't like it or agree with it, it stimulates discussion and adds some weight to the thread. All I've seen you do is tell people to get out or "fuck off".
A real contributor aren't you?
So cry me a river buddy, and stop getting so offended. The only time I see you post in this thread is to chastise someone it seems.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31682155]I wasn't talking about clinical depression caused by genetics,chem imbalance etc etc.
Mainly just depression. Never did I mention the word clinical in my post.
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Calling anything but clinical depression "depression" is a misnomer.
The fact that the thread title mentions medications should indicate to you that this isn't really a thread for people who are having just a bad day, although those kind of queries are welcome.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31682155]You're just butt-hurt. Every time I see you post, you're always angry or upset, or demanding that someone stops posting in the thread. I'm just putting my opinions down, even if you don't like it or agree with it, it stimulates discussion and adds some weight to the thread. All I've seen you do is tell people to get out or "fuck off".
A real contributor aren't you?
So cry me a river buddy, and stop getting so offended. The only time I see you post in this thread is to chastise someone it seems.[/QUOTE]
the only person I've told to stop posting in this thread is you because you're an asshole who has no understanding of depression and the fact that you're saying people who can't get over depression are weak
[QUOTE=Zeke129;31682373]Calling anything but clinical depression "depression" is a misnomer.
The fact that the thread title mentions medications should indicate to you that this isn't really a thread for people who are having just a bad day, although those kind of queries are welcome.[/QUOTE]
Eh probably should of said clinical depression is difference, but I assumed the regulars who posting in a thread about depression would be able to pick up the difference in word usage.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31682420]Eh probably should of said clinical depression is difference, but I assumed the regulars who posting in a thread about depression would be able to pick up the difference in word usage.[/QUOTE]But this is a thread for clinical depression, sure we accept anyone who comes here feeling bad, but the majority of regulars in this thread aren't just down for a day or two.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31682420]Eh probably should of said clinical depression is difference, but I assumed the regulars who posting in a thread about depression would be able to pick up the difference in word usage.[/QUOTE]
No generally even professionals can't tell the difference between the word depression and the word depression when one of them is being used incorrectly.
[QUOTE=JDK721;31682388]the only person I've told to stop posting in this thread is you because you're an asshole who has no understanding of depression and the fact that you're saying people who can't get over depression are weak[/QUOTE]
That's all you really do though.
So I mean, you really have no authority or right to be able to say someone should post something or not.
I'm not saying you should stop posting, even though I feel your only purpose in this thread is just to argue with me it seems. I've been posting in this thread from day one, and I say post away in here no matter what it is unless it's just your bickering of "fuck off" and "get out".
[editline]12th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Octave;31682440]But this is a thread for clinical depression, sure we accept anyone who comes here feeling bad, but the majority of regulars in this thread aren't just down for a day or two.[/QUOTE]
I was referring to depression that is not caused purely by genetics or a chem/hormone imbalance caused by genetics,diet etc etc.
Also this thread isn't just for clinical depression. Any type of depression, and for any type of discussion or anything related to depression. Be it signs and symptoms.
FUCK it even states all that shit in the title.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31682459]That's all you really do though.[/QUOTE]
nope, it's just you keep posting stupid shit, so I'm responding to it
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31682459]So I mean, you really have no authority or right to be able to say someone should post something or not.[/QUOTE]
I have the right to say it. you crossed the line when you said that people who can't beat depression are weak. this is supposed to be a help thread. being an asshole and posting bullshit like that is ridiculous.
you don't have a fucking clue about depression or psychology
[QUOTE=JDK721;31682718]nope, it's just you keep posting stupid shit, so I'm responding to it
I have the right to say it. you crossed the line when you said that people who can't beat depression are weak. this is supposed to be a help thread. being an asshole and posting bullshit like that is ridiculous.
you don't have a fucking clue about depression or psychology[/QUOTE]
I love how you are being a hypocrite when you try to cite me for being an "Asshole" when your first post in this discussion began with "fuck off" and all your post seem to fit the asshole(ish) tone you are so greatly fighting/labeling me with.
I also still find it hard how your still so angry/upset/mad because I said you can't be a weak person if you want to beat depression. I used a more messed up phrasing, and I even said sorry for any misunderstanding due to shit phrasing, you seem to still be buttstrated. The way your acting almost seems like you have some sort of bias against me, if you do just drop it, bias against users isn't needed in this thread.
So, I recently had a bit of a breakdown and told my mother most of the things that bothered me and now I can hear her exuberantly telling everything that I said in confidence to her sister. How should I react to that?
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31682908]I love how you are being a hypocrite when you try to cite me for being an "Asshole" when your first post in this discussion began with "fuck off" and all your post seem to fit the asshole(ish) tone you are so greatly fighting/labeling me with.
I also still find it hard how your still so angry/upset/mad because I said you can't be a weak person if you want to beat depression. I used a more messed up phrasing, and I even said sorry for any misunderstanding due to shit phrasing, you seem to still be buttstrated. The way your acting almost seems like you have some sort of bias against me, if you do just drop it, bias against users isn't needed in this thread.[/QUOTE]
people who label depressed people as weak, etc. aren't needed in this thread
[QUOTE=Asgard;31685865]So, I recently had a bit of a breakdown and told my mother most of the things that bothered me and now I can hear her exuberantly telling everything that I said in confidence to her sister. How should I react to that?[/QUOTE]
do you trust her sister?
[editline]12th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Leon Trotsky;31687668]people who label depressed people as weak[/QUOTE]
That's not what I said. I said weak people can't beat depression. That means you have to be strong to beat depression. I even said a few posts afterwards that depressed people are not weak, anyone can get depression, It just takes strength to overcome it.
Go re-read what i've said. Never did i say depressed people are weak. I've only said you can't be weak if you plan to beat it, and it takes strength.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31690974]That's not what I said. I said weak people can't beat depression. That means you have to be strong to beat depression. I even said a few posts afterwards that depressed people are not weak, anyone can get depression, It just takes strength to overcome it.
Go re-read what i've said. Never did i say depressed people are weak. I've only said you can't be weak if you plan to beat it, and it takes strength.[/QUOTE]
my point still stands. you're labeling people who struggle with mental illness as weak.
[QUOTE=Asgard;31685865]So, I recently had a bit of a breakdown and told my mother most of the things that bothered me and now I can hear her exuberantly telling everything that I said in confidence to her sister. How should I react to that?[/QUOTE]
Don't be pissed. Just never tell her anything like that again.
Cant you guys take it to the private messages?
Not in the depression thread.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;31690974]do you trust her sister?
[editline]12th August 2011[/editline]
That's not what I said. I said weak people can't beat depression. That means you have to be strong to beat depression. I even said a few posts afterwards that depressed people are not weak, anyone can get depression, It just takes strength to overcome it.
Go re-read what i've said. Never did i say depressed people are weak. I've only said you can't be weak if you plan to beat it, and it takes strength.[/QUOTE]
What does that even mean though. How do you have to be 'strong' to get out of a depression. To be honest if a person gets out of a depression, or falls further into it, it's probably not because of the person themself but what goes on around them.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;31700362]What does that even mean though. How do you have to be 'strong' to get out of a depression. To be honest if a person gets out of a depression, or falls further into it, it's probably not because of the person themself but what goes on around them.[/QUOTE]
Talk about this in private messages. This argument isn't going to solve/produce anything useful for those who read the thread.
OP should update the OP some. Info on drugs, counseling, etc. Anything related to the topic, I guess.
I'll post some more later (as in I have more to say than just update the OP). Tired now and I'm going to sleep.
I don't think the OP even browses this thread anymore.
[QUOTE=Shoupie;31703730]Hey, guys! How're ya'll's dopaminergic pathways doing today?[/QUOTE]judging by your avatar yours are doing pretty well. :v:
I'm feeling so shit at the moment. One thing in particular is constantly hanging over me, but it's so stupid and embarassing I don't want to go into it. I can distract myself from it but it always comes back.
I just realised I did none of the things I was planning to over the holiday. I was gonna do all kinds of things. Go to NZ, meet up with a girl, make something cool with the electronics kit I bought for myself, try to create some music... in the end, I just worked a whole load, went to see a shite film with friends, built a computer and pissed away countless hours (probably days) of my life on it playing games and arguing with people I'm never going to meet or care about.
I deliberately avoided and turned down offers for social contact because I felt inadequate compared to the people there (also due to the fact I'd already met one guy I knew was going to one such gathering, who drunkenly sat on me and insulted me at a house party once when I was trying to get to sleep - that doesn't count though)
Oh, what's the time? 3:30 AM. Again. Fuck.
[editline]14th August 2011[/editline]
I get the feeling four years of teasing by schoolfriends because I asked 1 (one) girl out has something to do with it
i couldnt take the craic
[QUOTE=Turnips5;31719012]and pissed away countless hours (probably days) of my life on it playing games and arguing with people I'm never going to meet or care about.[/QUOTE]
Same bro, same.
[QUOTE=Turnips5;31719012]
I get the feeling four years of teasing by schoolfriends because I asked 1 (one) girl out has something to do with it
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Your friends are teasing you because you asked a girl 4 years ago?
wow what dickheads.
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