• The Depression Chat - Symptoms, Assistance, Medicines and More.
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Almost everyone I know IRL thinks I'm happy, and the fact that I'm happy makes my parents happy which is pretty vital for them in their condition. I really don't want to tell people that I'm depressed, so, what should I do? I've got a bit of a dilemma here.
[QUOTE=Spetzaz;28390207]Almost everyone I know IRL thinks I'm happy, and the fact that I'm happy makes my parents happy which is pretty vital for them in their condition. I really don't want to tell people that I'm depressed, so, what should I do? I've got a bit of a dilemma here.[/QUOTE] First answer these questions: Why are you afraid or reluctant of letting people know that you are depressed? Are you afraid of disappointing or letting someone down? Are you afraid of creating an impression of being weak or incapable? Are you afraid of creating an impression of being ungrateful? Are you afraid of sharing the possibility of you having possible chemical imbalance problems?
First and foremost I don't want my mother in particular to know that I'm sad because she's dedicated her whole life to my happiness, even when she went through chemo therapy she supported me. [QUOTE=genkaz92;28390281]Are you afraid of disappointing or letting someone down?[/QUOTE] So, yeah. [QUOTE=genkaz92;28390281]Are you afraid of creating an impression of being weak or incapable?[/QUOTE] Nope. [QUOTE=genkaz92;28390281]Are you afraid of creating an impression of being ungrateful?[/QUOTE] Yes. [QUOTE=genkaz92;28390281]Are you afraid of sharing the possibility of you having possible chemical imbalance problems?[/QUOTE] No, but maybe subconsciously.
[QUOTE=genkaz92;28390077]Whoever refuses to see a shrink around this place should undoubtedly go anyway, such a form of counseling may not solve absolutely all of your problems, but it often provides an extremely vital form of support and assistance. Even if it is useless in practical terms, it is often extremely supportive in mental terms. And that is a much better reason to go then it may sound at first, considering the fact that an exceptionally large amount of psychology does not revolve itself around practicality or logic whatsoever, while also often being barely explored. In simpler terms, it is just a good idea to go for the purpose of getting atleast some type of external help and assistance to give you the opportunity of pulling yourself out of the torturous endless nightmare that depression often is.[/QUOTE] Oh, shut up. I've had years of counseling, from the age of 12 to 16 I saw several different shrinks. It's just not the way to go for everybody.
Ok, please listen to me Spetzaz. It takes real strength to reveal your weaknesses, also considering the fact that you have already admitted that you are not afraid to reveal them. I would like to recommend talking to your parents about your depression and making every possible effort to ensure that the center of the conversation and the overall amplification of it is indeed centered on chemical imbalance. Make absolutely clear that you are under a strong impression of having a chemical imbalance problem, and that your depression does not appear to be coming from any logical sources whatsoever. Share it from the perspective of a purely medical problem, do not even remotely touch the area of your depression being caused by something external, be absolutely positive that you are letting your parents know that you may have a chemical imbalance which influences your well being, not something external which actually causes it. Tell them that you are overall satisfied with your situation, but you are unfortunately having problems with a chemical imbalance triggered affected well being. [editline]2nd March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SaWAH;28390482]Oh, shut up. I've had years of counseling, from the age of 12 to 16 I saw several different shrinks. It's just not the way to go for everybody.[/QUOTE] Please note how I never said that it was a guaranteed solution to your problems. I merely implied it being a good idea to atleast try and visit a few of those people. If it does not work on you, you are always free to leave, it is not like they immediately capture you as soon as you walk into the building and start keeping you as their pet slave. I am just trying to recommend the morality of actually using the resources that are available to you which have an actual capacity of solving your problems, albeit not necessarily being 100% guaranteed.
Ok, I'll give it a shot, thanks a ton bro
Well, it's not even that L wants to see a shrink in the very slightest. She's never been, and she refuses to even try going. It's just...I dunno. I can't do anything else for her, and neither can my other friend, H.
[QUOTE=Pedro the Fuzzy;28390743]Well, it's not even that L wants to see a shrink in the very slightest. She's never been, and she refuses to even try going. It's just...I dunno. I can't do anything else for her, and neither can my other friend, H.[/QUOTE] Are you familiar with any details of why exactly she is not interested in going? There are often phobias, assumptions, or anxiety related problems which stop a person from helping himself/herself.
[QUOTE=New Cidem;28376438]Lately I've lost the drive to do... anything. I feel lethargic, uninterested, and when I finally get around to doing something, I do a lousy job and feel more depressed as a result. My favorite pastime, drawing, has become impossible simply because I can't do it anymore. I've literally lost my ability to accurately draw things overnight. I'm not taking any medicine, mostly because my dad doesn't take me seriously, he assumes that I can just "walk it off". Every day I am taunted for not having a girlfriend, and the reason why is most likely that I prefer the nice, kind and honest girls which don't exist to the slutty, foul-mouthed imbeciles who make up the female population in my area. I don't mean to sound egotistical, but I am a gentle, quiet person. I'm not [i]ugly[/i] in my opinion, as well as my peers', I just don't appeal to anybody. I've tried counseling, but nothing really came of it. All that happened was, the counselor told me what I already knew, they charged my parents a shitton of money for it. The worst part of it is, is when girls taunt me. They might pretend to hit on me or feign interest. That hurts the most. They always say that people who make fun of or taunt others are trying to compensate, feel good about themselves. I think they're doing it because I'm an acceptable target, I won't fight back, I won't tell anybody. And before you suggest it, I'm not doing weed. It's just always seemed grotesque to me, everyone I know who does it is either an idiot, a criminal or both. Also they are smelly. No offense. Sometimes I get really sad and just lie in bed all day :smith:[/QUOTE] I feel like this sometimes too. You sound a lot like me, actually. Weed doesn't necessarily make you a criminal or an idiot. It's more of the social stereotype people conform to, if anything. But if you don't want to smoke weed, then by all means, don't. If you're losing some of your passion for drawing, maybe you could find a new hobby? Just find anything to get excited about. If you label every girl in your area as slutty or foul-mouthed, then you're less likely to notice the girls that aren't like that because you already have a preconceived notion of every female your age in your area. That'll make it awfully hard to meet anyone. Be open-minded. Also, fuck the people that are taunting you about the fact that you don't have a girlfriend. Being single isn't a bad thing. If you're a quiet, gentle guy like you said, you probably won't have much trouble meeting someone in the future. Even if you really, really don't feel like getting out of bed, do it. Whenever I stay in bed all day I feel like a failure and that makes everything worse. Keep drawing, even if you think you're no good. Let yourself feel depressed and accept that you're sad, but don't let it control you. That's always been the biggest thing for me. Talk to people. Smile. Be friendly. I always like myself more if I do that. Feel better.
Dilemma: NPF or agree?
[QUOTE=genkaz92;28390077]Whoever refuses to see a shrink around this place should undoubtedly go anyway, such a form of counseling may not solve absolutely all of your problems, but it often provides an extremely vital form of support and assistance. Even if it is useless in practical terms, it is often extremely supportive in mental terms. And that is a much better reason to go then it may sound at first, considering the fact that an exceptionally large amount of psychology does not revolve itself around practicality or logic whatsoever, while also often being barely explored. In simpler terms, it is just a good idea to go for the purpose of getting atleast some type of external help and assistance to give you the opportunity of pulling yourself out of the torturous endless nightmare that depression often is.[/QUOTE] I think I just need a girlfriend, not a shrink.
I feel like a coil is inside of me, and is tightening up more and more and more, and I feel like I'm super stressed all of the time, and I'm having issues with my AP Stats class (class average is 60%, the teacher doesn't really teach, we have 6 graded assignments (4 quizzes 2 tests) and he grades like this [img]http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5846/captureaye.png[/img]) Even though it's an elective class, if I don't pass it I wont have enough elective credits to graduate. I'm doing this friday's test, then dropping to normal statistics. I don't feel acknowledged at home, even though I know my parents love me. I'm applying to a bunch of places so I can have a job while I go to junior college in the fall. I want this pressure and stress to go away, I don't even have an appetite and I'll eat maybe twice a day if I've exercised. I find myself staying at home and browsing Facepunch or using Netflix or downloading sappy indie films. I only feel somewhat happy when I'm out with my friends, and even then there are always those moments where you feel like you've either crossed the line or like you're not wanted there. Sorry for not forming an organized paragraph.
[QUOTE=genkaz92;28390077]Whoever refuses to see a shrink around this place should undoubtedly go anyway, such a form of counseling may not solve absolutely all of your problems, but it often provides an extremely vital form of support and assistance. Even if it is useless in practical terms, it is often extremely supportive in mental terms. And that is a much better reason to go then it may sound at first, considering the fact that an exceptionally large amount of psychology does not revolve itself around practicality or logic whatsoever, while also often being barely explored. In simpler terms, it is just a good idea to go for the purpose of getting atleast some type of external help and assistance to give you the opportunity of pulling yourself out of the torturous endless nightmare that depression often is.[/QUOTE] I'd rather just drown my sorrows in candy and soda.
[QUOTE=Shoupie;28390929]I feel like this sometimes too. You sound a lot like me, actually. Weed doesn't necessarily make you a criminal or an idiot. It's more of the social stereotype people conform to, if anything. But if you don't want to smoke weed, then by all means, don't. If you're losing some of your passion for drawing, maybe you could find a new hobby? Just find anything to get excited about. If you label every girl in your area as slutty or foul-mouthed, then you're less likely to notice the girls that aren't like that because you already have a preconceived notion of every female your age in your area. That'll make it awfully hard to meet anyone. Be open-minded. Also, fuck the people that are taunting you about the fact that you don't have a girlfriend. Being single isn't a bad thing. If you're a quiet, gentle guy like you said, you probably won't have much trouble meeting someone in the future. Even if you really, really don't feel like getting out of bed, do it. Whenever I stay in bed all day I feel like a failure and that makes everything worse. Keep drawing, even if you think you're no good. Let yourself feel depressed and accept that you're sad, but don't let it control you. That's always been the biggest thing for me. Talk to people. Smile. Be friendly. I always like myself more if I do that. Feel better.[/QUOTE] I really got to hand it you, my friend. Coincidentally, I just got back from buying a new headset, and when I finished reading this, one of my favorite songs started playing after not playing for hours on iTunes. This has really lifted up my spirits, and made me more confident. I really can't thank you enough! I suppose you're right about being quiet and gentle later in the future, those sound like qualities the kind of girl I'm looking for might want. I'll also try to be more social. Once again, thank you.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;28373337]you really need to go to a doctor for that. [/QUOTE] I have, but I've never heard of anyone else having it.
[QUOTE=New Cidem;28392741]I really got to hand it you, my friend. Coincidentally, I just got back from buying a new headset, and when I finished reading this, one of my favorite songs started playing after not playing for hours on iTunes. This has really lifted up my spirits, and made me more confident. I really can't thank you enough! I suppose you're right about being quiet and gentle later in the future, those sound like qualities the kind of girl I'm looking for might want. I'll also try to be more social. Once again, thank you.[/QUOTE] I'm glad I could help. :buddy:
Does anyone have any advice for dealing with loneliness? I do try to hang out with my friends as often as I can, but I can't be around them 100% of the time. A lot of the time I still feel lonely when I'm around people anyways.
[QUOTE=Tim Henson;28394655]Does anyone have any advice for dealing with loneliness? I do try to hang out with my friends as often as I can, but I can't be around them 100% of the time. A lot of the time I still feel lonely when I'm around people anyways.[/QUOTE] This is why I went to see a shrink and sometimes still do see one. I had depression because I felt I was horribly lonely and didn't hold myself up to my friend's standards. Honestly, the best way to remedy it is to go exercise. The rush of dopamine to your brain is the most calming thing to experience, probably more calming than wanking. After a hard workout you'll feel amazing and you'll realize that loneliness is something that's just in your head and you need to block it out.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;28391237]I think I just need a girlfriend, not a shrink.[/QUOTE] Do you think that it would help you because you would obtain a genuine emotional bond with someone?
[QUOTE=genkaz92;28399633]Do you think that it would help you because you would obtain a genuine emotional bond with someone?[/QUOTE] wouldn't be alone. thats really why i get depressed really. My father basically ditched me and ran to the other state (for the 3rd.. god damn fucking time) and my friends are about as reliable as well, fuck there is no good analogy on how unreliable they are. So, i have a overwhelming sense of loneliness. Now I use to be contempt with loneliness before for a few years, but now, its just eh.
Does anybody else feel like shit about everything until they physically get out of bed? It doesn't matter how long you're awake for. I feel like I'm nothing but logical and that everything I've done recently was a stupid idea. Until I get up.
[QUOTE=Splarg!;28409467]Does anybody else feel like shit about everything until they physically get out of bed? It doesn't matter how long you're awake for. I feel like I'm nothing but logical and that everything I've done recently was a stupid idea. Until I get up.[/QUOTE] I have been somewhat of a wreck sleep wise for the last few days. Literally felt like I simply want to lie there, and sleep forever. I have also been sleeping way too much in general. It does not make too much difference to me personally whether I get out of bed or do not, if I am feeling crappy about something or a group of things, it usually continues throughout the whole day. I literally took long walks outside and took trips along the forest trail nearby to see whether something would change because I never got out of the house. I felt exactly the same as I did when I left the house even after a two hour walk, also considering the fact that I actually like walking along that trail, and it overall being rather pleasant.
god didn't know there was a thread for this. I'm nearly 16 now, around my 13 my hormones were already at full speed so I started look at girls, you know, the usual stuff, but I never approached any of them. Then I found an absolute "gem" (was young), really kind and all, approached her, tried to talk to her, and asked her out (what was I thinking) and got rejected, took me really hard and I'm still depressed over that now. Ontop of that, I'm a loner, my social skills are absolutely zero, always go to the far away spots during school pause while everyone is probably talking about me behind my back...+ I don't feel loved but I know my mother would give her life for me which kind of sucks as I see no reason to live longer. god this felt good :unsmith:
[QUOTE=genkaz92;28409611]I have been somewhat of a wreck sleep wise for the last few days. [/QUOTE] same. but mainly because the sleeping pill brand I use got taken off the shelf and replaced with a new brand that uses the same ingredient/drug, yet hardly works shit for me.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;28409958]same. but mainly because the sleeping pill brand I use got taken off the shelf and replaced with a new brand that uses the same ingredient/drug, yet hardly works shit for me.[/QUOTE] I got recently placed on a certain sleeping medication myself, and it somewhat works, but not well enough. I can resist it too easily and as as a result often do not actually fall asleep, might require something with a larger kick. On the bright side, sometimes it gives me awesome borderline hallucinogenic trips, during one of those times, my air duct turned into a wizard. So, I have three things to discuss with my doctor, a possibly different anti depressant medication, a different sleeping medication, and an ADD medication.
I haven't felt very good lately. I don't really have anyone I can completely relate to. I can shoot the shit with plenty of people, but nobody knows me very deeply. I hang out with one girl all the time, mostly because she's sort of attached herself to me. She's self-absorbed and obnoxious, and I don't mean this in a mean way. That's just the way she is. Our personality types aren't compatible. I don't dislike her. I just don't connect with her. The only person I could call a friend is gone now. She graduated early, and I'm happy for her, but I miss her. She used to ask how I was doing and she meant it. That might seem small, but I thought it was really nice. I can relate to Evilan. But working out is just a quick fix for depression. I run fairly often. Lately I've been becoming increasingly dissatisfied with my body and my goal when I work out is to basically abuse myself. Go until I literally can't do it anymore, so that I can feel some sense of accomplishment when I wake up sore everywhere. Then I collapse in bed and try to fall asleep, but I can't do that very easily anymore without some kind of sedative, and even then it takes me a couple of hours to actually fall asleep. I wake up tired. I go to school tired. I come home tired. I work out tired. I don't remember the last time I felt refreshed or carefree. I wish I had time to waste. But most of all, I wish I had someone to waste it with.
[QUOTE=Shoupie;28410566]I wake up tired. I go to school tired. I come home tired. I work out tired. I don't remember the last time I felt refreshed or carefree. [/QUOTE] I can quite relate to this one, it is almost as if sleep and relaxation lost their powers during the last few years. Literally as if I sleep purely for the purpose of passing time and preventing my brain sells from dying rather then actually getting refreshed. I virtually always feel atleast somewhat heavy and tired, even when I decide to dedicate some of my time for the sole purpose of relaxation. I literally stopped doing everything yesterday and dedicated a few hours to relax as much as possible, it was pleasant, but ultimately pointless.
I can relate to every word she said, a solution to all of it would be on both our behalfs.
[QUOTE=Spetzaz;28412212]I can relate to every word she said, a solution to all of it would be on both our behalfs.[/QUOTE] I am sorry, but which area are you talking about?
Everything Shoupie said applies to me in some form or another, if not directly then analogically or similarly.
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