• The Depression Chat - Symptoms, Assistance, Medicines and More.
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[QUOTE=Jazucu;32619804]Hey all...I've been going in and out of increasingly depressive moods for the past year and a half, I've recently started talking to a therapist and for shits and giggles I went through a psych eval. The psychiatrist offered me meds (Wellbutrin, in particular) if I wanted them, as one option -- he left the choice up to me. The mood are...pretty much depression in a nutshell. They come and go with little to no reason, besides one normal trigger of frustration that doesn't always apply, and last from a half hour to half a day. There are weeks where I only get one episode in a week, and weeks where it happens pretty much all day every day to different extents. My question to you guys-- what are your opinions on meds? Is it worth trying them this early on in treatment? What do you think about side effects? My body already went through accutane, I'm rather iffy about putting it through another med, but my moods are putting increased stress on an already incredibly stressful long-distance relationship and academic career...I'm beginning to doubt how long I can keep fighting and keep up with the number of things in my life right now.[/QUOTE] start with a small dosage and take them consistently for a few weeks. you should start to notice whether they're working after several weeks. if the side effects are too severe then you'll probably have to switch to another medication. it's worth trying medication if you feel that therapy, etc. is not helping enough.
[QUOTE=mr apple;32572913] Tutor: "What's there to be depressed about today? It's a gorgeous day outside!"[/QUOTE] That is insultingly stupid.
[QUOTE=mr apple;32572913] Tutor: "What's there to be depressed about today? It's a gorgeous day outside!"[/QUOTE] "Well I'm talking to you, for one"
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[QUOTE=Beezleboss;32650955]words[/QUOTE] Does your family have a normal doctor? Why do you think you have no motivation? Why do you think that you will get nowhere without a highschool diploma? I mean, what are your expectations for life? What do you expect and what do you actually want? Antidepressants can help, but they generally don't entirely fix depression
No Because I have been putting it off for the past few months That is how it is, what can you do and truly enjoy your life without one? I wanted to do something in psychology but thats fucking out the window now
[QUOTE=Beezleboss;32651093]No Because I have been putting it off for the past few months That is how it is, what can you do and truly enjoy your life without one? I wanted to do something in psychology but thats fucking out the window now[/QUOTE] Do you have enough money to just walk into a clinic or? But why have you been putting it off for a few months? You can travel and do many other fulfilling things. Quite a few entrepreneurs never graduated high school. Why is it out the window? You can finish it later, you can complete some psych qualifications that don't require a GED (we have a few in Australia). Hell, one of our High Court judges (equivalent to your Supreme Court) left school at year 10, worked as a secretary for a decade and then did a mature-age high school course and went to university, and worked her way up.
[QUOTE=Beezleboss;32651093] I wanted to do something in psychology but thats fucking out the window now[/QUOTE] You can go back and take your GED any time. They're not going to have the system set up in a way that if there's an event in your life that requires prolonged time off you're fucked forever. One of the happiest blokes I know took his when he was 23, he's doing pretty well for himself too.
[QUOTE=Beezleboss;32651093]words[/QUOTE] don't worry about not having a high school diploma. just try to get your GED, and then you can get into a community college with a GED/good test scores. you can get your associates degree (two years) at the community college and then transfer to a university for the remaining two years to get your bachelors degree in psychology, and then masters, etc. if you want once you get into college, what happened in high school means absolutely nothing. no one will give a shit that you only got your GED. they'll only care about what you did in college.
A lot of people I know are actually going to CC, and then transferring over to their college of choice once they get a associate degree. It's nothing to be ashamed about, doing it the way you are doing it. A lot of respectable people do it. Why? it's cheaper, and easier to some degrees. Get your GED bro, go to CC, go to your college of choice, do what you want ?? fuck bitches, get paid.
I don't feel ashamed about getting my GED, it's the exact equivalent of a diploma in this state. I just gotta shape up my math incredibly, everything else is 12+. Do you guys think getting put on AD's would help me overall?
[QUOTE=Beezleboss;32664288] Do you guys think getting put on AD's would help me overall?[/QUOTE] That's really something only a psychiatrist can determine. They help millions of people but it really depends on the person and what their problems are.
So I'm probably going to regret this but what's the general consensus on self-harm? Obviously underlying conditions are bad but self-harm itself, what about that?
[QUOTE=Devodiere;32678157]So I'm probably going to regret this but what's the general consensus on self-harm? Obviously underlying conditions are bad but self-harm itself, what about that?[/QUOTE] usually a means of punishment or relief, unless you're attention seeking which can still be seen as a problem. If that's what you meant, I'm not sure.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;32678157]So I'm probably going to regret this but what's the general consensus on self-harm? Obviously underlying conditions are bad but self-harm itself, what about that?[/QUOTE] I see a massive double standard when it comes to this. Alcoholism could easily be considered self-harm, and people generally feel the desire to help alcoholics. There are support groups and programs readily available everywhere. If a person self-harms in any other way, however, they're either seen as a freak or someone who just wants attention. It's best you don't do it but if you're going to do it obviously be smart about it. (If you absolutely [i]need[/i] to cut yourself or something, take every precaution to avoid infections, stuff like that) It's almost always a symptom of depression though, so you likely have other problems that you'd like to treat and you should talk to someone about it instead.
Don't think it's depression or punishment, maybe anxiety, certainly not attention seeking , they're pretty well hidden. Wouldn't think infection would be at the top of the list of worries either but ok. It seems to be more about the scars and the way they look though, not about the cutting itself. It's not so much necessary or a way of coping as something done just for the scars, for the result of it rather than the act itself, if that makes sense.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;32679757]Don't think it's depression or punishment, maybe anxiety, certainly not attention seeking , they're pretty well hidden. Wouldn't think infection would be at the top of the list of worries either but ok.[/QUOTE] Causing pain on yourself releases endorphins, which gives a momentary "high" for someone depressed enough to notice the small boost. That's the most common reason I've heard. And yeah, medical complications can get really bad when it comes to things like this and depressed people are depressed - not stupid. Just like how an alcoholic can be responsible and not drink around his family or the like.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;32679757]Don't think it's depression or punishment, maybe anxiety, certainly not attention seeking , they're pretty well hidden. Wouldn't think infection would be at the top of the list of worries either but ok. It seems to be more about the scars and the way they look though, not about the cutting itself. It's not so much necessary or a way of coping as something done just for the scars, for the result of it rather than the act itself, if that makes sense.[/QUOTE] I used to self-harm, trying to get over it quite recently actually. Mine was caused by low self-esteem, the whole punishment route. I'd always look at the cut and the blood afterwards and feel a sense of happiness and/or achievement. As I type it out it doesn't make much sense but that's just what I felt. Like Zeke said, through self-harm endorphins are released which can become addictive so if you could possibly try and stop now before it's too late, you would be taking a great step towards the solution.
Self-harm or self-injury often co-exists with depression. It is a coping mechanism in which a person deliberately harms themselves to deal with distress and painful memories. Self-harm is done for a variety reasons such as when a person thinks they need to be punished or to regulate strong emotions. Someone who self-harms may have been abused and blame it on themselves, and they think that they need to be punished for it. A person may also cut themselves in a high stress situation because it temporarily calms the nerves.
It's not fucking worth it, man. I've known too many cutters, and that never gets any better for them until they stop it. It tears me apart to watch someone do that to themselves.
[QUOTE=Pedro the Fuzzy;32685333]It's not fucking worth it, man. I've known too many cutters, and that never gets any better for them until they stop it. It tears me apart to watch someone do that to themselves.[/QUOTE] You're right. Cutting is basically just a form of self-medication, it won't fix anything.
The worst thing about cutting, IMHO, once you've stopped the behaviour is the scars. People know what self-harm scars look like, and if you're doing it any deeper than, say, chicken scratches, you're going to be stigmatized. You might not think that they're noticeable, but they are in certain situations - for example, cutting on your legs; you can't wear shorts in public if you want to keep it private, and if you haven't discussed it with your sexual partner(s) beforehand it can definitely lead to an awkward situation. Self-harm scars are so blatant, especially when you start cutting deep enough for it to be raised, and/or you have a lot of them. I wouldn't advise it just for that reason. If people see your scars, it affects how they interact with you, and you can be institutionalized against your will if they're new. [editline]9th October 2011[/editline] Also, if you're unlucky you can rip scabs open in public, which can be pretty bad. And lastly, be safe about infections. I know it doesn't seem like a big deal, but it can and does happen. Devodiere, if you feel comfortable, feel free to PM me about this at any time.
[QUOTE=devotchkade;32685688]and you can be institutionalized against your will if they're new.[/QUOTE] Actually you need to be found in the act of self-harm, past self harm isn't grounds to be institutionalized.
i actually was quite dumb the other day and i cut myself.. [editline]9th October 2011[/editline] and oh fuck i dont even know why i did it. I just felt empty as fuck, i wasnt sad but i was definately far from happy. Wasnt bored but far from having fun. Just empty. luckily i didnt cut my arms though... [editline]9th October 2011[/editline] i wont do it again, punching walls is a better option and doesnt leave a noticiable mark. hope i didnt cut too deep on my leg.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32694133]Actually you need to be found in the act of self-harm, past self harm isn't grounds to be institutionalized.[/QUOTE] That might be true in your country, Zeke, but not so here. I'm not sure of the actual laws around it, but I know it happens. I think it's one of those things that depends on how family/friends/teachers/whatever pursue it, and it's often left to the discretion of people in charge, but it is possible. [editline]9th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Str4fe;32694737] i wont do it again, punching walls is a better option and doesnt leave a noticiable mark. hope i didnt cut too deep on my leg.[/QUOTE] Don't get started. It's difficult to stop when you do. ETA: I'm talking about fresh scabs; you're right that they can't institutionalize you based just on self-harm scars.
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I'm doing alot better these days with new school and all, but I still have anxiety and random stress problems. It's really nice nog being depressed anymore though. I've for once actually felt something go right for me and it made me happy.
So I've gotten back into my feelings of uselessness, I worked way to much for my health this summer. And now I went from 6 days a week(sometimes going 11 days in a row working) to only 3 days a week. It's nice for the break and being able to hang out with my friends but seriously I just have too much free time now. Money was never the problem for my job and isn't now. I just woke up today really late today and man I just feel like I got my ass kicked.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;32640744]That is insultingly stupid.[/QUOTE] it is, but it does seem like the guy was genuinely trying to help, reading the other quotes
he was trying to help, but I'm sure it's someone who's never been depressed/dealt with a depressed person. you have to remember not everyone experiences the same things.
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