[QUOTE=MaverickIB;29342441]The trick to stealing a girl is to pretend like she doesn't have a boyfriend at all.
Don't ever bring it up, and if she brings it up, deflect the conversation immediately. It's like Inception up in that bitch. You don't go in there and say "Break up with your boyfriend," because it makes her think about her boyfriend and put up a defensive wall. What you do is continually impress her and draw her attention away from the boyfriend, so she thinks on her own "Wow, this guy is better than my boyfriend."
That's the big mistake kids make. They get desperate and tell girls "But he's an asshole and treats you like shit! You deserve so much better!" Her breaking up with the boyfriend is a decision she must come to make on her own without any direct influence from you. It's all indirect mind games.[/QUOTE]
brb going to steal girl
[QUOTE=B-hazard;29356280]Different hairstyle.[/QUOTE]
Could you suggest some styles? I can look them up on Google Images.
[QUOTE=Dr Bob;29356240]My friend needs some help. Any tips on how he can make girls like his face more?
[img_thumb]http://gyazo.com/6ccacd4282ab05a770272dd8fcbc1a13.png[/img_thumb]
He is second from the left, please help.[/QUOTE]
be less gay
i'd advise him to stop hanging out with that modern art expo on the right there.
Whats a good kickstart to a conversation?
For those awkward moments where you are both silent?
just like "how was your day?"
"Do you want to see my penis?"
[editline]22nd April 2011[/editline]
Just start talking about something interesting, or ask her an interesting question.
[QUOTE=Lukeo;29354463]Repost for a new page, despite GoldenGnomes amazing advice.[/QUOTE]
Jokes at their expense.
Light-hearted ones; at least, that works for me.
[QUOTE=Str4fe;29360862]Whats a good kickstart to a conversation?
For those awkward moments where you are both silent?
just like "how was your day?"[/QUOTE]
Sure, something like that would work, but don't use it as an opener for someone you don't know unless they're working. Any open ended question works, but make sure it's targeted at the person you're talking to, so something like "tell me about yourself" or if you know something about her "what video games do you play?" Or you could always make an observation about something going on around you.
[QUOTE=Str4fe;29360862]Whats a good kickstart to a conversation?
For those awkward moments where you are both silent?
just like "how was your day?"[/QUOTE]
Take out your Yu-Gi-Oh deck and challenge her to a DUEL.
[QUOTE=Lukeo;29339269]Tips on how to be more flirtatious if you guys have any please?
Went on a date with a smoking hot girl but I just feel I didn't get my point across which I'd like to do on our next.[/QUOTE]
I posted this a couple pages back, might be relevant.
[QUOTE=Dark_Light;29150790]If you talk about anything with enough passion and confidence, people will listen and be interested. As has been said, you don't have to have identical interests with someone to talk to them; quite simply ask them about what they're interested in, and find ways to relate that to yourself so you don't end up asking questions endlessly, and actually have something to contribute as well.
As to your original question of how to flirt, really you just have to be more fun and playful. Start with general conversation about whatever, just make small talk, and gradually open up to each other with your respective interests or opinions or whatever. Keep the conversation fun, make her laugh, make jokes and be funny, but don't be a clown. It's also great to tease her and pick fun at her, but don't do this excessively. Make jokes at her expense, don't be afraid to cross boundaries, just make sure you're saying it jokingly and through a smile. Of course, don't just outright insult her, that isn't funny. When she's playfully hitting you and giving you that "I can't believe you just said that" look whilst laughing hysterically, then you're doing well.
Body language is key as well. Lean back, appear relaxed and inviting. Smile, and maintain eye contact, but don't stare. Be comfortable with touching, physical escalation is a huge part of flirting if you want to take it any further. Touch them briefly as you're talking, initiate high fives or hugs, or lead them by their hand or arm. You want to break the personal space barrier and show that you're comfortable with touching and being touched.
The most important thing when it comes to flirting is to not take it seriously. Be natural, don't try too hard, and just have as much fun with her as you can. Don't worry about where it ends up, you're just flirting with someone and it might not go anywhere. It's a lot of fun when you get comfortable with it, and once you do you'll find yourself flirting with every girl you talk to, regardless of if you're interested in her or not, just because it's a fun way to talk to girls. I often catch myself teasing members of my own family just because it comes naturally now when interacting with females.
All the best.[/QUOTE]
As to your situation specifically, it's a lot easier to flirt with a girl on a date because you are already indirectly communication your intentions, so you just need to confirm them with how you act (i.e. flirting, body language, physical escalation).
What is your past relations with the girl? What was the date? Do you have further plans so far?
[QUOTE=Str4fe;29360862]Whats a good kickstart to a conversation?
For those awkward moments where you are both silent?
just like "how was your day?"[/QUOTE]
Openers are the easiest part of approaching a woman, if they are done naturally and without hesitation and previous planning or analysis or all of the other bullshit we find ourselves doing when we're nervous and have approach anxiety.
As has been mentioned, you can make a comment on the environment or situation you are both in (situational opener). These are great because they seem the most natural, and in any given situation you are sure to find 100s of things you could point out or mention or whatever. Alternatively, you can use opinion openers and ask the girl/group of their opinion on something, but these can seem canned and unnatural. In most cases, a simple direct opener such as "Hey!" can work the best if you are conveying strong body language and aren't putting yourself across as a massive pussy.
Girls enjoy people coming over to talk to them as long as they're not being creepy, so don't stress so much about it. The opener is short and unimportant, and its purpose is exactly what it sounds like, to open the conversation up.
As to actually keeping a conversation going, avoid falling into the trap of question answer question answer question answer question answer etc etc, it feels horribly unnatural and makes the girl feel likes she's being interrogated. Make a statement about what she says (if she mentions cats for example, you could interject with a funny story about your own cat), and then follow with another question to allow the conversation to continue. She'll feel a lot more comfortable now to open herself up to someone who isn't just pounding her with the same survey she's answered a hundred times before.
That's the basic structure of it, but don't stress so much about trying to adhere to it because of course, a 'structured' conversation isn't exactly natural. Get the general idea, apply it to all of your interactions with anyone (not just the girl/s you're interested in), and over time you'll find it comes more and more naturally.
Best of luck.
Jesus christ you're writing a fucking novel about this incredibly simple question.
It's just a little advice thread on a forum.
i don't know how people struggle with conversations?
I use to always be a quiet dude, and still am here and there.
but i have no problem holding conversations.
Im usually either talking to someone, texting or chatting multiple people at any given time.
use "hey"
"whats up"
"sup"
"how you doin?"
"oh hey there, im (insert name)" fucking works too.
if you can't go from there then.. well fuck me, i can go from there and still be at it hours later.
[editline]23rd April 2011[/editline]
so whats the best way to change someones perspective on you?
Some people see me as a sort of sulky/downer, and i wanna change that. so whats the best way to change that perspective?
Fuck, the best kind of opener is being playful. Tease the bitch about something. It shows confidence. Gotta do it natural, though. It's hard to give pointers on that because it depends on the situation, of course. Don't just walk up to her and be like "YOU MUST BE SHORT OR SOMETHING" because then you look fucking retarded. Game over.
Keeping a conversation going with a girl is easy, just keep her on edge. Keeping a conversation going with anyone else is easy too. Just... talk. Isn't much about it. Remind your friends of an old memory or some shit that will bring up some laughs. Hell, just be funny with anyone and everyone. You keep good friends and make women attracted to you.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;29367414]Jesus christ you're writing a fucking novel about this incredibly simple question.
It's just a little advice thread on a forum.[/QUOTE]
So? Clearly it's not an incredibly simple question to everyone if he had to ask it. Starting and continuing conversations is easy for me, what's wrong with sharing what I know to help someone else out?
How about you offer some of your superior advice instead of useless posts like that (:
I have a problem.
I'm dating this guy (yeah I'm also a guy) who likes music that I don't. What should I do? He keeps on making me listen to it :/
[QUOTE=collegegrad;29368045]I have a problem.
I'm dating this guy (yeah I'm also a guy) who likes music that I don't. What should I do? He keeps on making me listen to it :/[/QUOTE]
Assert yourself? Derp.
collegegrad you used to be entertaining, now you're just annoying.
[QUOTE=Dark_Light;29368083]collegegrad you used to be entertaining, now you're just annoying.[/QUOTE]
:frown:
[QUOTE=Dark_Light;29365995]
Make a statement about what she says (if she mentions cats for example, you could interject with a funny story about your own cat), and then follow with another question to allow the conversation to continue. She'll feel a lot more comfortable now to open herself up to someone who isn't just pounding her with the same survey she's answered a hundred times before.
That's the basic structure of it, but don't stress so much about trying to adhere to it because of course, a 'structured' conversation isn't exactly natural. Get the general idea, apply it to all of your interactions with anyone (not just the girl/s you're interested in), and over time you'll find it comes more and more naturally.
Best of luck.[/QUOTE]
This
[QUOTE=Protocol7;29367838]Fuck, the best kind of opener is being playful. Tease the bitch about something. It shows confidence. Gotta do it natural, though. It's hard to give pointers on that because it depends on the situation, of course. Don't just walk up to her and be like "YOU MUST BE SHORT OR SOMETHING" because then you look fucking retarded. Game over.
Keeping a conversation going with a girl is easy, just keep her on edge. Keeping a conversation going with anyone else is easy too. Just... talk. Isn't much about it. Remind your friends of an old memory or some shit that will bring up some laughs. Hell, just be funny with anyone and everyone. You keep good friends and make women attracted to you.[/QUOTE]
Tease her good-naturedly, obviously. Nothing that could potentially hurt her feelings, even accidentally.
I only tease friends.
I am chill with someone who is my forte.
I should probably swap that one around for a change.
[QUOTE=Dark_Light;29367916]So? Clearly it's not an incredibly simple question to everyone if he had to ask it. Starting and continuing conversations is easy for me, what's wrong with sharing what I know to help someone else out?
How about you offer some of your superior advice instead of useless posts like that (:[/QUOTE]
You might not have been reading, but I have been giving advice to everyone in this thread. Including this guy (see [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1062850-Maverick-s-Love-Relationship-Social-Advice-Megathread?p=29360917&viewfull=1#post29360917]here[/url])
Except collegegrad.
Here's a good tip that can fit into one sentence: Just don't let it get silent; if there's a break in conversation just start talking about something new that you think of.
I will elaborate for you just to top it off: your mind is never blank, just say something that you're thinking at the moment, and unless she actually just doesn't want to talk to you, it will ultimately lead to a new conversation.
[editline]23rd April 2011[/editline]
There are so many answers to this question, which is why it is so simple.
That's why there's no need to write so much on it.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;29368386]I only tease friends.
I am chill with someone who is my forte.
I should probably swap that one around for a change.[/QUOTE]
stop thinking about it so damn much christ
just TALK to her
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;29368846]stop thinking about it so damn much christ
just TALK to her[/QUOTE]
god damn you're stupid.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;29367723]so whats the best way to change someones perspective on you?
Some people see me as a sort of sulky/downer, and i wanna change that. so whats the best way to change that perspective?[/QUOTE]
Not posting in the depression thread :smug:
The best way is to just change the way you act around others. Talk and act upbeat and people will take notice of the change pretty quickly. Also, avoid a lot of negative discussions for a while and only bring them up when it's opportune to do so.
[QUOTE=Evilan;29368984]Not posting in the depression thread :smug:.[/QUOTE]
damn, even though that was a joke at my expensive, i read that and instantly moved over to the zing button.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;29368865]god damn you're stupid.[/QUOTE]
no you're just dumb
you're getting anxiety over talking to a girl, what are you in third grade?
[QUOTE=Dark_Light;29368083]collegegrad you used to be entertaining, now you're just annoying.[/QUOTE]
No, he is just obnoxious.
Not really funny with the "omgiloveher" thing, in my [sp]invalid[/sp] opinion.
[QUOTE=Jo The Shmo;29368390]You might not have been reading, but I have been giving advice to everyone in this thread. Including this guy (see [url=http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1062850-Maverick-s-Love-Relationship-Social-Advice-Megathread?p=29360917&viewfull=1#post29360917]here[/url])
Except collegegrad.
Here's a good tip that can fit into one sentence: Just don't let it get silent; if there's a break in conversation just start talking about something new that you think of.
I will elaborate for you just to top it off: your mind is never blank, just say something that you're thinking at the moment, and unless she actually just doesn't want to talk to you, it will ultimately lead to a new conversation.
[editline]23rd April 2011[/editline]
There are so many answers to this question, which is why it is so simple.
That's why there's no need to write so much on it.[/QUOTE]
I have been reading, and yes I did see your post, but imagine that you're some guy that doesn't have much or no experience at all with interacting with women and you're asking for advice on how to start conversations. A silly dick joke followed by "Just talk about something interesting" really isn't much help at all is it?
You don't make sense dude. You complain about me writing a long post in response to a short question, but then admit that there are so many answers to that question? Yeah, there are so many answers, so why not try to provide as many of them as possible?
P.S. The Dumb ratings really hurt my feelings please stop giving them to me or I might stop posting forever ):
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;29367723]so whats the best way to change someones perspective on you?
Some people see me as a sort of sulky/downer, and i wanna change that. so whats the best way to change that perspective?[/QUOTE]
If you want people's perception of you to change, you just need to change your perception of yourself. Become the person you want to be and over time people will see that.
It is very possible. I spent three years of high school as a miserable loner with a handful of friends. I was arrogant, angry, and hated everyone and everything. More recently I've even been told that people I'm friends with now were actually scared of me just because I emitted such negative vibes. Long story short, I changed into a much better person, learned to love people and basically to not be such an arrogant cunt all the time. I was worried that the damage had been done and that I'd be stuck with that reputation for my final two years of high school, but I didn't give up. I just kept trying to become more social, friendly, outgoing and positive; expanded my social circle, spoke to more people, made new connections and mended old ones.
Over time I became more confident in myself, and I found that the comfort zone which I had originally stepped out of was quickly expanding to match my growing personality or whatever.
At first it was weird, I remember talking to people (especially the girls) after my 'transformation' if you will, and they'd always say shit like "I can't believe you're actually talking to us Kenji."
Now though, I run this shit.
It's a long and gradual process, especially if you've built up this reputation of yourself for a while. You can't expect an overnight change. If you really are a bit of a sulk, you should first address the inner problems which cause that, and then worry about what others think of you.
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