[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38508509]The fact that you're still hitting them in the kidney when you're aiming at the heart. They're not hugely accurate rifles to begin with, so I see no purpose in using match ammo, as the gun isn't going to be able to use it to its full potential.[/QUOTE]
Which aren't hugely accurate? Nuggets are pretty accurate with the right conditions, not so sure about SVTs, but unless you're at a distance I can't see you hitting someone in the kidney if you're aiming at the heart...
what a beautilful picture
[img]http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1353270507148.jpg[/img]
With my nugget can typically get 10/10 in the black at 100yds, even shooting off-hand. I'm sure that the match grade ammo is good stuff, but I don't really see the point. The regular stuff is accurate enough
[QUOTE=felix the cat;38508605]With my nugget can typically get 10/10 in the black at 100yds, even shooting off-hand. I'm sure that the match grade ammo is good stuff, but I don't really see the point. The regular stuff is accurate enough[/QUOTE]
It's a fun rifle to shoot but I don't think I'd want to do a competition with it.
[QUOTE=Inplabth;38508292]For those of you with appropriate firearms, Aim Surplus has some [url=http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=A76254MATCH&name=Surplus+Russian+7.62x54R+182grn+FMJ+Match+225rd+can&groupid=40]match grade 7.62x54r[/url] in stock right now.[/QUOTE]
Ouch, 50 cents a shot. Then again, it IS Match. They also have Surplus Bulgarian Silver-Tip for $75 / 440 rounds.
Well yeah. For a competition I'd take my Swede Mauser every time
[QUOTE=Camwi_003;38508721]Ouch, 50 cents a shot. Then again, it IS Match. They also have Surplus Bulgarian Silver-Tip for $75 / 440 rounds.[/QUOTE]
16 Cents a round.
-snip bad reading-
[QUOTE=felix the cat;38508866]120/225=0.53
[editline]18th November 2012[/editline]
What? why are you disagreeing with me? Literally take out a calculator and divide 120 by 225 and it equals 0.5333333333....[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about the Silver tip ammo...
oh. well that makes sense then :v:
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;38508588]what a beautilful picture
[img]http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1353270507148.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I love me some Bakelite!
So I got this Marlin 39a for my 11th birthday. It jams every other round no matter what the ammo. After about 40 shots the takedown screw is loose and it won't fire. The rear sight is broken. The trigger pull is over 8lbs. It was purchased brand new, and has been this way ever since.
The Marlin forums are full of people with new lever guns that don't work for shit (mostly 39As). How do they get away with this? The worst part is the older versions worked flawlessly.
I'm ordering a new rear sight and hammer spring (for the trigger pull), and I'm probably going to need a new extractor. I am going to be pissed if I have to take a hammer to the lever to get the receiver to seal properly. No idea what I'm going to do about the takedown screw. Loctite maybe?
TL;DR: Marlin sucks my balls. Whatever you do, don't get a 39A.
Marlin was bought out by Cerberus a year and a half ago. The investment firm, not the space terrorist organization.
[QUOTE=Ridge;38509671]Marlin was bought out by Cerberus a year and a half ago. The investment firm, not the space terrorist organization.[/QUOTE]
Does that mean they're better, or worse? This gun is over 6 years old.
Generally when a company is bought out they go down hill
[editline]lol no[/editline]
I've decided I'm going to design a gun. Specifically with the (unnoticed) Australian market in mind. The intention is to build a pump-action (because I can't have semis) handgun calibre rifle, firing from Glock magazines, in nearly every calibre the Glock is made in (except 9mm Browning and 45GAP because no one uses them). I'm thinking out of a 14ish inch barrel I could take small kangaroos and goats in 9x19mm, while all the way up in 10mm Auto I could take decent sized pigs, goats and deer. To reduce manufacturing and improve customisability it would use commonly available parts like an AR15 buttstock and trigger group (though not the lower, that would cause legal problems).
I might be getting a bit too ambitious though as an engineering student...
[QUOTE=raccoon2112;38509645]So I got this Marlin 39a for my 11th birthday. It jams every other round no matter what the ammo. After about 40 shots the takedown screw is loose and it won't fire. The rear sight is broken. The trigger pull is over 8lbs. It was purchased brand new, and has been this way ever since.
The Marlin forums are full of people with new lever guns that don't work for shit (mostly 39As). How do they get away with this? The worst part is the older versions worked flawlessly.
I'm ordering a new rear sight and hammer spring (for the trigger pull), and I'm probably going to need a new extractor. I am going to be pissed if I have to take a hammer to the lever to get the receiver to seal properly. No idea what I'm going to do about the takedown screw. Loctite maybe?
TL;DR: Marlin sucks my balls. Whatever you do, don't get a 39A.[/QUOTE]
Is your 39A new or old production? I have one from the old Marlin factory, it is extremely reliable. I do a lot of gun smithing so if you need help, PM me and we can compare rifles and Skype. I'd love to help a fellow FP'er out.
[editline]19th November 2012[/editline]
[video=youtube;FUOrbeQNi2E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUOrbeQNi2E[/video]
[editline]19th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=download;38509720]Generally when a company is bought out they go down hill
[editline]lol no[/editline]
I've decided I'm going to design a gun. Specifically with the (unnoticed) Australian market in mind. The intention is to build a pump-action (because I can't have semis) handgun calibre rifle, firing from Glock magazines, in nearly every calibre the Glock is made in (except 9mm Browning and 45GAP because no one uses them). I'm thinking out of a 14ish inch barrel I could take small kangaroos and goats in 9x19mm, while all the way up in 10mm Auto I could take decent sized pigs, goats and deer. To reduce manufacturing and improve customisability it would use commonly available parts like an AR15 buttstock and trigger group (though not the lower, that would cause legal problems).
I might be getting a bit too ambitious though as an engineering student...[/QUOTE]
This is very doable. Do you have access to Solidworks? I'd be willing to help.
[QUOTE=download;38509720]Generally when a company is bought out they go down hill
[editline]lol no[/editline]
I've decided I'm going to design a gun. Specifically with the (unnoticed) Australian market in mind. The intention is to build a pump-action (because I can't have semis) handgun calibre rifle, firing from Glock magazines, in nearly every calibre the Glock is made in (except 9mm Browning and 45GAP because no one uses them). I'm thinking out of a 14ish inch barrel I could take small kangaroos and goats in 9x19mm, while all the way up in 10mm Auto I could take decent sized pigs, goats and deer. To reduce manufacturing and improve customisability it would use commonly available parts like an AR15 buttstock and trigger group (though not the lower, that would cause legal problems).
I might be getting a bit too ambitious though as an engineering student...[/QUOTE]
Oh hey, another engineering student.
I thought pumps were banned, though?
Also, if you make one in.223 and with mags that aren't AR mags, but happen to work in an AR, you'll be able to make shitloads in Canada on the mags alone. If it's not an AR mag, but fits in an AR, as long as it's not for another semi and not advertised as AR compatible it'll be exempt from magazine restrictions. I can practically guarantee you could sell 20 round mags for $100, 30 for $150, and a functioning 100 round drum for probably $1000-$1500, and they'd sell. Hell, at that point I'd buy an AR and at least one of those mags, probably a few.
[editline]19th November 2012[/editline]
Also, I know the feeling about being too ambitious. I've been contemplating ways to legally circumvent mag restrictions here for about a year now, and been debating how successful a .303 semi that uses Lee-Enfield mags would be. Also been thinking of how successful/doable a made-from-scratch "sawed-off" shotgun would be, because making one from scratch is legal, but modding an existing one is not.
[QUOTE=Camwi_003;38509917][video=youtube;FUOrbeQNi2E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUOrbeQNi2E[/video][/QUOTE]
Just watched this video. I think I'm going to be sick.
I actually know a professional gunsmith, and a machinist so I think I'm good. Thanks for the help.
P.S. how do I find out if mine is old production?
[editline]18th November 2012[/editline]
This video doesn't actually apply to me. Like I said, my gun is over 6 years old
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38509966]Oh hey, another engineering student.
I thought pumps were banned, though?
Also, if you make one in.223 and with mags that aren't AR mags, but happen to work in an AR, you'll be able to make shitloads in Canada on the mags alone. If it's not an AR mag, but fits in an AR, as long as it's not for another semi and not advertised as AR compatible it'll be exempt from magazine restrictions. I can practically guarantee you could sell 20 round mags for $100, 30 for $150, and a functioning 100 round drum for probably $1000-$1500, and they'd sell. Hell, at that point I'd buy an AR and at least one of those mags, probably a few.
[editline]19th November 2012[/editline]
Also, I know the feeling about being too ambitious. I've been contemplating ways to legally circumvent mag restrictions here for about a year now, and been debating how successful a .303 semi that uses Lee-Enfield mags would be. Also been thinking of how successful/doable a made-from-scratch "sawed-off" shotgun would be, because making one from scratch is legal, but modding an existing one is not.[/QUOTE]
Only pump-action shotguns are banned, we're allowed pump-action rifles (crazy, huh? Fun fact, running shot shells through your pump-action rifles is a crime!). We already have a rifle that takes AR15 mags, the Remington 7615. It's an 870 shotgun rechambered for .223 and fitted with AR15 mags. Because we can't import AR15 mags over 10 rounds, the ones already in country are several hundred dollars each. So, there really isn't much viability in one when you have to complete with an existing product. Though there are rumours floating around that Remington have discontinued it... If I was going to make one I'd just make a copy, saves heaps on design and prototyping.
My plan with the pistol calibre carbine is to have something on par with the Hi-Point carbines, while having it in large enough calibres for hunting so it can compete with all the lever actions popular with pig hunters here. Pretty much factory ammo for both handgun calibres and .223 are about the same; 60c+ a round. But when you handload like most of us do the price for handgun calibres drops to less than 20c a round while rifle rounds stay about 40c. It's much cheap and I would sell it one that
god what a pain in the ass it must be to be a gun owner is australia
Because the 7615 advertises it takes AR mags, it's still subject to restrictions, it needs to take mags that aren't AR mags, aren't advertised as compatible, but are technically compatible to get around restrictions. And importation is different than manufacturing, so you may be able to make high-cap mags, especially if they aren't technically AR mags.
I know, you've got your plan to fuck with your arbitrary restrictions, this is kinda just me mentioning my idea to get around our arbitrary restrictions.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38510153]Because the 7615 advertises it takes AR mags, it's still subject to restrictions, it needs to take mags that aren't AR mags, aren't advertised as compatible, but are technically compatible to get around restrictions. And importation is different than manufacturing, so you may be able to make high-cap mags, especially if they aren't technically AR mags.
I know, you've got your plan to fuck with your arbitrary restrictions, this is kinda just me mentioning my idea to get around our arbitrary restrictions.[/QUOTE]
Ohk. Why not mail a manufacturer in the US suggesting they make AR15 mags and market them under a different name?
I'm glad i'm happy with my piece of shit single shot shotgun so i don't have to go through all the paperwork you guys do to get pistols and stuff.
So just a quick question, out if pure, non- murderous curiosity. What are the best rifle and pistol calibers to silence that still manage to pack a punch?
this
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EAoBoMi4RE[/media]
[QUOTE=MightyMax;38510175]I'm glad i'm happy with my piece of shit single shot shotgun so i don't have to go through all the paperwork you guys do to get pistols and stuff.[/QUOTE]
Australia?
[QUOTE=download;38510173]Ohk. Why not mail a manufacturer in the US suggesting they make AR15 mags and market them under a different name?[/QUOTE]
Because, like companies ignore the Australian market due to its small size, they ignore the Canadian market for the same reason. Not to mention it needs to be ever so slightly different, and there needs to be a gun it goes in that isn't an AR. I know down in Ausland, AIA made .308 Enfields that would take M-14 mags, but the mags they made were ever so slightly different to a normal M-14 mag, I heard they didn't drill out some hole that M-14 mags have on them, that the RCMP let them fly with no restrictions on capacity, but they fit in an M-14 fine, and work fine, and are perfectly legal to use because they're from a different gun. I've seen cases where people buy the $800 gun, then try to resell it still brand new for $600, but without the magazine, or with a pinned 5/20 or short 5-only M-14 mag, which are cheaper and a bit easier to find, as the M-14 likely came with both a pinned and short mag. This essentially means they paid $200 to get 5 more shots in their gun.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;38510258]'murricuh[/QUOTE]
No paperwork then, get all those cool things
[editline]19th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38510268]Because, like companies ignore the Australian market due to its small size, they ignore the Canadian market for the same reason. Not to mention it needs to be ever so slightly different, and there needs to be a gun it goes in that isn't an AR. I know down in Ausland, AIA made .308 Enfields that would take M-14 mags, but the mags they made were ever so slightly different to a normal M-14 mag, I heard they didn't drill out some hole that M-14 mags have on them, that the RCMP let them fly with no restrictions on capacity, but they fit in an M-14 fine, and work fine, and are perfectly legal to use because they're from a different gun. I've seen cases where people buy the $800 gun, then try to resell it still brand new for $600, but without the magazine, or with a pinned 5/20 or short 5-only M-14 mag, which are cheaper and a bit easier to find, as the M-14 likely came with both a pinned and short mag. This essentially means they paid $200 to get 5 more shots in their gun.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking that all that requires is a reboxing. Pretty easy to mark a magazines as from something else than to build a whole new gun for it just to get it in.
[editline]19th November 2012[/editline]
Hell, mark them as a non-existent gun
[QUOTE=download;38510274]No paperwork then, get all those cool things
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