do you seriously live in america and not know our gun laws
[QUOTE=download;38510274]No paperwork then, get all those cool things
[editline]19th November 2012[/editline]
I'm thinking that all that requires is a reboxing. Pretty easy to mark a magazines as from something else than to build a whole new gun for it just to get it in.
[editline]19th November 2012[/editline]
Hell, mark them as a non-existent gun[/QUOTE]
Don't think that'd fly, the government is annoying, not stupid. They'd get suspicious of people buying mags for a gun that doesn't exist, there needs to be at least a few of them in circulation. And while it essentially would be an AR mag, like I said, rebranding isn't enough, there actually needs to be a very subtle, but noticeable difference between that mag and a standard STANAG mag, or the RCMP will deem it just another AR mag, and mandate it be pinned. This is what happened with the Remington 7615, and actually when Smith and Wesson started advertsing that their 25 round .22 mag, because there's no rimfirecmag restrictions, would fit in both their .22 rifle AND .22 pistol, the RCMP demanded it be pinned to 10 rounds to accommodate handgun law, so other companies, knowing their mags would be compatible anyways, but since the RCMP decision only existed for that mag becauseS&W advertised it, started marking their mags "For use in M&P 15-22 Rifle Only," but it fit in the pistol anyways, and because it's "only for the rifle" it's legal.
Our laws are a crock of nonsense, basically rebranding it to be labelled for no gun isn't good enough, there needs to be a gun that isn't semi for it to be made for, and it needs to have some subtle difference to it or the RCMP will mandate it be pinned at 5 as a variant of an AR mag. Right now the only circumvention are 10 round mags made for the LAR pistol, because pistols are pinned at 10, and the mag is labelled as being made for the pistol only or some such nonsense. If it was as easy as you're trying to suggest, someone would have done it ages ago.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38508509]The fact that you're still hitting them in the kidney when you're aiming at the heart. They're not hugely accurate rifles to begin with, so I see no purpose in using match ammo, as the gun isn't going to be able to use it to its full potential.[/QUOTE]
don't know what kind of range you're shooting at but I do about 2 MOA with my completely unmodified nugget. That's well under minute of dead. No experience with SVTs but they can't be that bad
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;38510347]do you seriously live in america and not know our gun laws[/QUOTE]
i prrrrrrobably do but i'm runnin off of 10min of sleep and an aleeve pill or whatever.
Please stop posting
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38510497]don't know what kind of range you're shooting at but I do about 2 MOA with my completely unmodified nugget. That's well under minute of dead. No experience with SVTs but they can't be that bad[/QUOTE]
I probably just suck balls at shooting it, but I'm happy if I can manage to get all 5 shots in a mag on target at 100 with the SVT. Granted, I also haven't tried sighting it properly yet either, and I'm probably shooting too fast to be getting an accurate sight picture and a steady trigger pull. And it's not the bore, that looks fine, maybe a few pits at the most, if any, I don't think I have a good enough eye to tell, but strong rifling. I'm fairly confident it's either me or the sight alignment, because I'm great with a .22, and fine at 100 with a properly sighted .303, so long as I'm using a good technique, and my shoulder isn't hurting a bit and making me anticipate after shooting some magnum buckshot earlier.
Even still, the Mosin doesn't have the accuracy the Enfield or K-31 has. Either of those I could see potentially using match ammo in, but not a Mosin or SVT.
Where would be a good area to shoot off a 1100fps pellet rifle?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;38510879]Where would be a good area to shoot off a 1100fps pellet rifle?[/QUOTE]
With that velocity I'd treat it like a .22
[QUOTE=download;38510890]With that velocity I'd treat it like a .22[/QUOTE]
Tell me about it. I had squirrel issues earlier this month, and I was to afraid to use the damn thing. It sends pellets straight through garage doors, and even though I wouldn't mind ridding the squirrel problem that way, I've got way to many neighbors who would question the loud popping noise.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38510420]Don't think that'd fly, the government is annoying, not stupid. They'd get suspicious of people buying mags for a gun that doesn't exist, there needs to be at least a few of them in circulation. And while it essentially would be an AR mag, like I said, rebranding isn't enough, there actually needs to be a very subtle, but noticeable difference between that mag and a standard STANAG mag, or the RCMP will deem it just another AR mag, and mandate it be pinned. This is what happened with the Remington 7615, and actually when Smith and Wesson started advertsing that their 25 round .22 mag, because there's no rimfirecmag restrictions, would fit in both their .22 rifle AND .22 pistol, the RCMP demanded it be pinned to 10 rounds to accommodate handgun law, so other companies, knowing their mags would be compatible anyways, but since the RCMP decision only existed for that mag becauseS&W advertised it, started marking their mags "For use in M&P 15-22 Rifle Only," but it fit in the pistol anyways, and because it's "only for the rifle" it's legal.
Our laws are a crock of nonsense, basically rebranding it to be labelled for no gun isn't good enough, there needs to be a gun that isn't semi for it to be made for, and it needs to have some subtle difference to it or the RCMP will mandate it be pinned at 5 as a variant of an AR mag. Right now the only circumvention are 10 round mags made for the LAR pistol, because pistols are pinned at 10, and the mag is labelled as being made for the pistol only or some such nonsense. If it was as easy as you're trying to suggest, someone would have done it ages ago.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure but maybe if it were made into a single stack rather then a double stack, sure that would limit the capacity of the magazine but fifteen rounds is better then five and it would alter both the appearance and how it functions in comparison with a standard STANAG.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;38510347]do you seriously live in america and not know our gun laws[/QUOTE]
In all fairness, the people that write our laws don't know our laws.
[QUOTE=NateLB;38496339]wow.
Walmart is a fucking rip off.
I'm looking online...
$15 for 50 230gr .45's.
Wish I had a cabelas around me, mother fucker that was a giant waste of $100.
Mother fuck.
Seriously?
The fuck is walmart selling ammo for such steep prices for? They sell guns for piss, but ammo is an arm and a leg?
Would have said fuck that had I known .45's were THAT cheap online.[/QUOTE]
Someone at Walmart fucked up with the pricing. Outside of ordering online, Walmart is about the cheapest place to buy ammo commercially. $98 at walmart is the cost of the Remington UMC .45ACP MegaPack, which is 250 rounds. I know because I just bought some the other day. Walmart's prices should be very close across all stores in the United States. There will be some difference, but no where near what you are saying. The store that you shopped at in particular likely had a goof up in their inventory system, or just incorrect pricing period. What was the brand of ammo you bought? Do you still have your receipt?
I got a 100rd box of Federal .45 for $25 at my Walmart... 9x19 was even cheaper, like $12 for 50 rounds. Walmart is a pretty cool place for ammo. Even though they card me every time.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;38510258]'murricuh[/QUOTE]
what state?
[QUOTE=massn7;38514219]I got a 100rd box of Federal .45 for $25 at my Walmart... 9x19 was even cheaper, like $12 for 50 rounds. Walmart is a pretty cool place for ammo. Even though they card me every time.[/QUOTE]
It's Walmart 'policy' to card every one that looks to be younger than 40. At least, that is what I have been told on several different occasions. Speaking of 9mm, I picked up a 100 round box of Federal for $14 at my local Walmart this past Friday. So glad I decided to finally get something other (cheaper) than .45ACP, lol.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;38514573]what state?[/QUOTE]
North Carolina.
[QUOTE=massn7;38514219]I got a 100rd box of Federal .45 for $25 at my Walmart... 9x19 was even cheaper, like $12 for 50 rounds. Walmart is a pretty cool place for ammo. Even though they card me every time.[/QUOTE]
In Socialist State of Coldfuckistan, Norway, you are always carded for ammo. No matter age. I wasn't even allowed to buy .38 Special, because my gun-license said .357 Magnum. The female tortoise at the policestation, said that I could only list one caliber per weapon, so I said .357 Magnum, so I could buy both. Then everyones favourite Knights Templar Anders made it so you couldn't buy .38 Special when your license only said .357 Magnum. The guy behind the counter said he could loose his job if it was discovered that he sold .38 Special to someone with .357 Magnum on their license, and this was an educated gunsmith that knew my teachers and he accordingly owned his own .357 Magnum revolver.
So, getting carded everytime you buy ammo at walmart vs not being able to buy ammo you are usually allowed to because of a paper error made hundreds of miles away? I know I'd choose.
Oh and .45 is like .80 cents per round if you find it cheap.
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;38515518]In Socialist State of Coldfuckistan, Norway, you are always carded for ammo. No matter age. I wasn't even allowed to buy .38 Special, because my gun-license said .357 Magnum. The female tortoise at the policestation, said that I could only list one caliber per weapon, so I said .357 Magnum, so I could buy both. Then everyones favourite Knights Templar Anders made it so you couldn't buy .38 Special when your license only said .357 Magnum. The guy behind the counter said he could loose his job if it was discovered that he sold .38 Special to someone with .357 Magnum on their license, and this was an educated gunsmith that knew my teachers and he accordingly owned his own .357 Magnum revolver.
So, getting carded everytime you buy ammo at walmart vs not being able to buy ammo you are usually allowed to because of a paper error made hundreds of miles away? I know I'd choose.
Oh and .45 is like .80 cents per round if you find it cheap.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't really complaining about it. It's not that big of a deal, takes two seconds to pull out ID. It was just an off hand comment, because gun shops and the like usually don't care and just get whatever you ask for off the shelf. Sorry you've got it rough in Coldfuckistan though :v:
And yeah .45 can be cheap, but you often get what you pay for, and my P220 is a little picky about ammo. So that $25 Federal 100rd box was a pretty sweet deal I thought.
[QUOTE=massn7;38516098]I wasn't really complaining about it. It's not that big of a deal, takes two seconds to pull out ID. It was just an off hand comment, because gun shops and the like usually don't care and just get whatever you ask for off the shelf. Sorry you've got it rough in Coldfuckistan though :v:
And yeah .45 can be cheap, but you often get what you pay for, and my P220 is a little picky about ammo. So that $25 Federal 100rd box was a pretty sweet deal I thought.[/QUOTE]
That's like, half price. I always see .45ACP for that price PER 50, not 100. Awesome deal.
In Canada you have to show your firearms license every time you buy ammo, and in Ontario and probably Quebec the province maintains a ledger of who bought what ammo, and how much. Granted, if I wanted, I could buy ammo online from Alberta and have it shipped, nullifying that stupid requirement, but I'd need to e-mail the company a copy of my license.
The good thing is there's no restriction on what calibre/type of ammo you can buy at the store, though I had someone claim his brother got interviewed by police because he bought a calibre for a gun that wasn't registered to him, but I'm almost positive he's full of shit, because they never check the ammo logs, and I've done that plenty of times myself and never been contacted, and even if I was it's not illegal to do so.
Has anyone here ever had experience with an interarms tantal, my nearby dealer had one for 650 he was trying to talk me into, had no idea if these were reliable or if it was even worth it? I have very little experience with ak manufacturers and such. Would appreciate it if someone here had some insight.
Hey guys I know this might be a stupid question for someone who knows how guns work, but which side of a gun is the ejection port usually on? (I'm making a 3d model of a pump shotgun.)
[QUOTE=kaine123;38516333]Hey guys I know this might be a stupid question for someone who knows how guns work, but which side of a gun is the ejection port usually on? (I'm making a 3d model of a pump shotgun.)[/QUOTE]
Right. Unless you're making an Ithaca 37, that ejects out the bottom.
[QUOTE=kaine123;38516333]Hey guys I know this might be a stupid question for someone who knows how guns work, but which side of a gun is the ejection port usually on? (I'm making a 3d model of a pump shotgun.)[/QUOTE]
Right side. if it were on the left you'd have hot brass being ejected right up your nose.
For the above photo, where the ejection port cannot be seen, the shell is both loaded, and ejected, out the bottom of the gun.
They do also make left-handed, and therefore left-ejecting shotguns, though they're not advised for use by right-handed people, as the shells could be ejected into their face. Likewise left-handed people usually get a left or bottom eject shotgun so that they don't have the right-sided ejection port kicking shells into their face.
Hey question for you US guys:
How much is a retail:
Mosin-Nagant
SKS
SVT-40
TT-33
Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;38516542]Hey question for you US guys:
How much is a retail:
Mosin-Nagant: [b]80-120$[/b]
SKS[b]265$[/b]
SVT-40[b]~600$+[/b]
TT-33 [b]soviet bloc Tokarevs are about 200$[/b]
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
Now Trunk, how about prices for all-Russian SKS and TT-33?
all of them being specifically russian, by the way
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38516590]Now Trunk, how about prices for all-Russian SKS and TT-33?[/QUOTE]
wow
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