[QUOTE=Disotrtion;38633086]Wait whats #4 buck and whats 000 buck?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_shell[/url]
Scroll down a little and become informed.
[QUOTE=Disotrtion;38633086]Wait whats #4 buck and whats 000 buck?[/QUOTE]
#4 is the smallest size buckshot you can get, 000 is the largest size buckshot you can get
[QUOTE=Skullivan21;38633098][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_shell[/url][/QUOTE]
oh its the size. ok
I ordered A scope and rings and some accessories for my ruger 10/22 I bought forever ago. But The order is still waiting for just the scope rings, I at least need the cleaning kit so I can shoot it and clean up after. If I can get them to change the order, what's the main difference, if any between high and medium rings?
I was getting 1" Medium rings of these: [URL]http://www.opticsplanet.com/weaver-tactical.html[/URL]
But they said itll be out of stock for weeks longer even. If I can get them to switch medium rings for high rings, will there be any downsides?
I'm putting a Nikon ProStaff Rimfire 3-9x40mm Riflescope on a 10/22 is all, not too complicated.
Thanks!
shotguns are gay
[editline]28th November 2012[/editline]
like i get so bored talking about shotguns. you either shoot clays or home defense you do nothing with them
To me there are only 3 really cool shotguns:
Winchester 1897
Browning Auto 5
and this thing
[img]http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/sjogren.jpg[/img]
Sjögren shotgun
[QUOTE=vide0bug13;38633201]I ordered A scope and rings and some accessories for my ruger 10/22 I bought forever ago. But The order is still waiting for just the scope rings, I at least need the cleaning kit so I can shoot it and clean up after. If I can get them to change the order, what's the main difference, if any between high and medium rings?
I was getting 1" Medium rings of these: [URL]http://www.opticsplanet.com/weaver-tactical.html[/URL]
But they said itll be out of stock for weeks longer even. If I can get them to switch medium rings for high rings, will there be any downsides?
I'm putting a Nikon ProStaff Rimfire 3-9x40mm Riflescope on a 10/22 is all, not too complicated.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Downside is that your total height of the weapon will be greater. High rings allow you to easily use the iron sights (typically) for your rifle. If its a tight/close fit in a case, it probably will not fit after mounting. If you don't mind a little extra height for an easier sight picture (iron sight picture) then go with the high. If you're concerned with height go with mid or low. I have Extra Low on my SKS.
[t]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6688244/pictures/2012-11-04 20.08.48.jpg[/t]
[editline]28th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=felix the cat;38633274]To me there are only 3 really cool shotguns:
Winchester 1897
Browning Auto 5
and this thing
[IMG]http://www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/sjogren.jpg[/IMG]
Sjögren shotgun[/QUOTE]
I have a Remington Model 11 (I think? Its an Auto-5 by Remington) and a Civil 1897 Hammer gun. I wanna convert it to a M97 Trench Gun layout. I also love bolt action shotguns. Have you guys seen the [URL="http://www.gunco.net/forums/f113/12ga-fh-hairy-shotgun-rifle-39214/"]12GFH? that means 12 Gauge from Hell.[/URL] Its a straight-walled .50 BMG with a Rim in a bolt action shotgun. Shooting a huge lead round.
[t]http://www.gunownerstv.com/1212.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;38633239]shotguns are gay
[editline]28th November 2012[/editline]
like i get so bored talking about shotguns. you either shoot clays or home defense you do nothing with them[/QUOTE]
I take mine hunting occasionally. a 12 gauge slug will take any game around here.
[QUOTE=Camwi_003;38633293]
[t]http://www.gunownerstv.com/1212.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Oh God why?! It hurts just looking at it
[QUOTE=felix the cat;38633401]Oh God why?! It hurts just looking at it[/QUOTE]
What? Don't you enjoy having shoulder reconstruction surgery?
the slug sticking out of it looks incredibly weird
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;38633469]the slug sticking out of it looks incredibly weird[/QUOTE]
It's rifled, so it will spin in a smoothbore barrel.
The ATF has apparently approved this monsterpiece for import:
[IMG]http://www.guns.com/plugins/editors/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/gsynuhimgupload/images/ArsenalFirearmsAF2011A1DoubleBarrelPistol3.jpg[/IMG]
[url]http://www.guns.com/arsenal-to-import-af2011-a1-january-1-2013-launch-shot-show-11525.html[/url]
Actually, the rifling on a slug doesn't make it spin as it can't engage with the smoothbore and get the resistance needed to spin.
The Rifling on a slug is so it can deform and get past the choke
[QUOTE=Camwi_003;38633293]Downside is that your total height of the weapon will be greater. High rings allow you to easily use the iron sights (typically) for your rifle. If its a tight/close fit in a case, it probably will not fit after mounting. If you don't mind a little extra height for an easier sight picture (iron sight picture) then go with the high. If you're concerned with height go with mid or low. I have Extra Low on my SKS.[/QUOTE]
also too high of scope rings can fuck with your zero and make your gun shoot low at close range if your scope isn't mounted parallel to the barrel.
[QUOTE=Camwi_003;38633035]If you got an extra 500+ dollars, sure. Otherwise, get the Maverick.[/QUOTE]
A mossberg 500 costs 400-500$
A maverick 88 costs 250-300$
Mossberg 500s are made in the US
Maverick 88s are made in Mexico
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[QUOTE=16bit;38634610]A mossberg 500 costs 400-500$
A maverick 88 costs 250-300$
Mossberg 500s are made in the US
Maverick 88s are made in Mexico
[IMG]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b354/Venusy/Emoticons/emot-colbert.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I picked up my used mossberg for $200, so you might as well just go that route.
So to the replies regarding the pistol price range. I'm thinking of maybe at most 500. I was contemplating on either a .45 m1911 variant or something around the glock variants. I have shot .45s, an AK etc etc. However that was literally 6 years ago and haven't really done anything since then. Plus it wasn't aiming either it was just shooting wildly in the air but I have a good eye and perception in aiming.
Since when did shotguns become poor home defense weapons? Unless I'm missing something, the best home defense weapon has the 12 gauge pump for about 100 years now. Doesn't Mossberg make defender versions of all of their pump shotties with 18'' cylinder choke barrels and pistol grips?
[url]http://www.armslist.com/posts/679152/phoenix-arizona-handguns-for-sale--cz52-9mm-with-ammo-holster-2-mags[/url]
[h2]GODDAMNIT WHY DO THESE ALWAYS POP UP WHEN I'M BROKE[/h2]
Late to the debate but apparently the best choice for a shotgun home defense load is #4 buck.
Middle of the road, still powerful but won't penetrate through the wall and take down grandma in the next room
[QUOTE=Aman VII;38635470]Late to the debate but apparently the best choice for a shotgun home defense load is #4 buck.
Middle of the road, still powerful but won't penetrate through the wall and take down grandma in the next room[/QUOTE]
I don't think you can say universally which load is best, depends where you live and what your house is made of
I always keep #4 buck first in the tube. if it doesn't do the job, the 000 behind it will.
[editline]29th November 2012[/editline]
if 000 doesn't do the job, I've chosen the wrong gun and a howitzer would be more appropriate.
How loud are 12 gauges? I wouldn't mind a 12 gauge for home defense as long as it doesn't blow out my ear drums. I also wouldn't mind 410 gauge, but I'm not sure if 410 buckshot or slugs have any advantage over handguns.
[QUOTE=cqbcat;38635806]How loud are 12 gauges? I wouldn't mind a 12 gauge for home defense as long as it doesn't blow out my ear drums. I also wouldn't mind 410 gauge, but I'm not sure if 410 buckshot or slugs have any advantage over handguns.[/QUOTE]
Just put tampons in your ears and you'll be ok. :v:
[QUOTE=Ridge;38633723]It's rifled, so it will spin in a smoothbore barrel.
The ATF has apparently approved this monsterpiece for import:
[IMG]http://www.guns.com/plugins/editors/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/gsynuhimgupload/images/ArsenalFirearmsAF2011A1DoubleBarrelPistol3.jpg[/IMG]
[url]http://www.guns.com/arsenal-to-import-af2011-a1-january-1-2013-launch-shot-show-11525.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm going to buy one of these because [I]why the fuck not.[/I]
Arsenal firearms makes some cool things.
[url]http://www.arsenalfirearms.com/products/strike-pistol-system/[/url]
[editline]29th November 2012[/editline]
Oh cool, they make it in .40.
I'm totally gonna try to get one when I become a cop.
[img]http://puu.sh/1vyVf[/img]
[QUOTE=Ridge;38633723]It's rifled, so it will spin in a smoothbore barrel.
The ATF has apparently approved this monsterpiece for import:
[IMG]http://www.guns.com/plugins/editors/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/gsynuhimgupload/images/ArsenalFirearmsAF2011A1DoubleBarrelPistol3.jpg[/IMG]
[url]http://www.guns.com/arsenal-to-import-af2011-a1-january-1-2013-launch-shot-show-11525.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Does that thing have two triggers next to each other? I can't quite tell from this angle, but it looks like it does........
Yep.
Where the hell are you guys that Mossberg 500s cost $500? My store sells the base model for $299, and the base model 870 for $309.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;38636491]Where the hell are you guys that Mossberg 500s cost $500? My store sells the base model for $299, and the base model 870 for $309.[/QUOTE]
Can also just get a Maverick 88 for $150.
At least at my walmart you can.
And that's new with an 18.5" barrel and a 6 round tube.
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