Firearms VII- Obrez's at Dawn - General

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;39081399]So? I still prefer the original Makarov. The PMM is ugly in my opinion. [img]http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w229/Overwatch_Sniper/pm.jpg[/img] I love those grips and the overall look of the pistol. I don't need no PMM rounds in my baby, I am just shooting pieces of paper.[/QUOTE] PMM is 30% more powerfull than normal military makarov. Is your a bulgarian one? [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Skullivan21;39081422]I can't think of any rounds listed in the CT AWB or on the Fed. level in the US that are banned as AP rounds... beside anything over .50 cal. Someone might know better, but I can't be bothered to give enough of a fuck to check.[/QUOTE] You probably even will not find such ammo, because it was NEVER exported to us. Atleast legally. [IMG]http://i041.radikal.ru/1105/79/d2c184534026.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://worldweapon.info/sites/default/files/ammo/9x18_PBM.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://worldweapon.info/sites/default/files/ammo/9x18_PMM.jpg[/IMG] It has never been sold to civilians, only used by russian military since 90's.

Yes, mine is a Bulgarian one. I don't care if it is more powerful, I am just shooting paper. By the way, I did a quick search on gun broker and you can get a [url=http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=324603105]PMM[/url] there.

There is such made 9x19 rounds. They are not intercharchable with normal 9x19 pistol. They are 30% more powerfull than standart FMJ 9x19. So pistols will simply explode. [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=PaChIrA;39081440]Yes, mine is a Bulgarian one. I don't care if it is more powerful, I am just shooting paper. By the way, I did a quick search on gun broker and you can get a [url=http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=324603105]PMM[/url] there.[/QUOTE] It's IJ-70 exported version of makarov to US. You will never get a MILITARY PMM because it's not legal. Compare the pistol you linked me to military PMM: [IMG]http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/handguns/russia/hg21/1287754792.jpg[/IMG]

Huh, I'll see your Makarov and raise you a [t]http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawkAlaskan/images/5301.jpg[/t] .454 Motherfucking Casull...

Someone has never heard of +P or +P+ rounds.

[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;39081352]I think I've said it before but I really don't mind him He's clearly just doing it for entertainment and his videos are kinda fun[/QUOTE] If he practiced safety, wasn't a massive retard, didn't give out misinformation, and didn't get his crew almost killed, then it wouldn't be so bad. But he's almost killed his camera man before with shrapnel, now he's almost killed himself doing it.

It is basically the same thing

[QUOTE=Zerokateo;39081463]Someone has never heard of +P or +P+ rounds.[/QUOTE] Never compare the russian made shit to the western made shit. This ammo and +P, +P+ are NOT intercharchable. They actually will fit to your 9x19/9x18 pistol, but i will give you friendly advice. If you want to get your pistol simply exploded, go ahead, shoot them. :D [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=PaChIrA;39081474]It is basically the same thing[/QUOTE] IJ-70 is not designed to fire armor piercing bullets. While PMM is designed for that. IJ-70 will simply explode. or get corrupted. [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=umenat+_back;39081476]Never compare the russian made shit to the western made shit. This ammo and +P, +P+ are NOT intercharchable. They actually will fit to your 9x19/9x18 pistol, but i will give you friendly advice. If you want to get your pistol simply exploded, go ahead, shoot them. :D [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] IJ-70 is not designed to fire armor piercing bullets. While PMM is designed for that. IJ-70 will simply explode. or get corrupted.[/QUOTE] You probably seen this type of ammo first time in your life: [IMG]http://worldweapon.info/sites/default/files/ammo/9x18_PBM.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://worldweapon.info/sites/default/files/ammo/9x18_pbm.jpg[/IMG] And i have like 20 rounds of that sweeties :D [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=PaChIrA;39081399]So? I still prefer the original Makarov. The PMM is ugly in my opinion. [img]http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w229/Overwatch_Sniper/pm.jpg[/img] I love those grips and the overall look of the pistol. I don't need no PMM rounds in my baby, I am just shooting pieces of paper.[/QUOTE] If you put PMM rounds into your normal makarov. It will hold 300-400 shots, then it will get corrupt. Probably slide will explode and fly forward. [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] Ive shot like 25 PMM rounds from my normal makarov. It jammed 2 times. I am not really willing to do it again because normal makarov is NOT designed to fire PMM rounds, it gives 30% more pressure to steel. Also if you compare chambers and barrels of PM and PMM , they have completely different chamber construction. Its designed to slow down the blowback to kill the pressure to metal.

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;39081440]Yes, mine is a Bulgarian one. I don't care if it is more powerful, I am just shooting paper. By the way, I did a quick search on gun broker and you can get a [url=http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=324603105]PMM[/url] there.[/QUOTE] That's exactly where I live wtf I should buy it

[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;39081662]That's exactly where I live wtf I should buy it[/QUOTE] It's not PMM, its shitty commercial IJ-70

Dude it's not even a makarov It's a Beretta 92

Why do you need PMM rounds? Fire regular rounds through it.

[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;39081695]Dude it's not even a makarov It's a Beretta 92[/QUOTE] Are you fucking kidding? Ive never respected commercial shit, only military shit. Izhmash is making IJ-70 specially for you, silly americans.

It is basically the same thing minus firing the ammo that you won't need and is probably way too expensive when you can buy normal 9x18 rounds for cheaper.

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;39081739]It is basically the same thing minus firing the ammo that you won't need and is probably way too expensive when you can buy normal 9x18 rounds for cheaper.[/QUOTE] My vest is easily stopping almost all export variants of 9x18 rounds. But i doubt it will stop 9x18 7H25.

I need armor piercing baby killers to make sure the paper I shoot is extra dead

Why do you need AP rounds so much? You planning on shooting armored people? I really don't get why it matters so god damn much. You seriously make little sense to me, why not just get the cheaper rounds when all you are doing is shooting paper? My head is hurting

im a makarov expert and that gun was definitely a Beretta 92 get with it bro

Speaking of the Ruger Mini-14, how much were they running for before everyone decided to go full-retard?

he's in denial that the makarov is more of a fun plinking gun than being a actual useful weapon

[QUOTE=ewitwins;39081795]Speaking of the Ruger Mini-14, how much were they running for before everyone decided to go full-retard?[/QUOTE] I think they were pushing like 500-800$, thats at least what I saw at a few gun shows before gun prices shot through the roof. [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] no pun intended

It is. Otherwise military and police in my country/russia/and several other countries would not use it as a service pistol.

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39081465]If he practiced safety, wasn't a massive retard, didn't give out misinformation, and didn't get his crew almost killed, then it wouldn't be so bad. But he's almost killed his camera man before with shrapnel, now he's almost killed himself doing it.[/QUOTE] I used to think his videos were mildly entertaining, but stopped watching him after the video where his camera man was injured. I can't support anyone who does stupid shit like this, knowing that the majority of his fan base is underage adolescents.

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;39081771]Why do you need AP rounds so much? You planning on shooting armored people? I really don't get why it matters so god damn much. You seriously make little sense to me, why not just get the cheaper rounds when all you are doing is shooting paper? My head is hurting[/QUOTE] I am making out the MAXIMUM of firearm opportunities out of it. I need to get MAXIMUM what it can do. Just for fun. I am not gonna test 9x18 7H25 on my vest, ceramic plates and shit are expensive.

[QUOTE=download;39067507]Assuming you have a licence for one (which most people don't) a company is now making Ar15s in Australia because importing them is illegal. They only $8700 though! An FN FAL is about $6000. SKS or SKK is about $1200 Nuggets are about $350 Surplus nugget ammo is about 50-60c a pop and petrol is $1.50 a litre or $6 a gallon [editline]3rd January 2013[/editline] I have to say, this is impressive: [/QUOTE] To be fair in your countries your minimum wage is A LOT higher. Here in America our minimum wage is around 7.25 an Hr. In Aus I know its about $16 an hr and in Nor They have no minimum but make the highest average salary out of ALL of the UN around 75k USD. Where as the average wage of an American is only about 44k USD which is only around 30k Euro or 285,519Kr. This is why I feel no sympathy to Australians who cry about having to pay $100 per game on digital download (steam); when you are making more than DOUBLE our minimum wage.

[QUOTE=Mr. Foster;39081830]I used to think his videos were mildly entertaining, but stopped watching him after the video where his camera man was injured. I can't support anyone who does stupid shit like this, knowing that the majority of his fan base is underage adolescents.[/QUOTE] I quit watching when he wanted to use slugs in an 870 or something to bust a padlock off a door, then use buckshot or bird shot for targets inside. So he loaded the slugs in first, then the bird shot. It took him like 3 shots to blow the padlock off and he couldn't figure out why.

Stop quoting obvious gimmicks, it makes our deletion job harder. It'll get you banned too.

[QUOTE=Orkel;39081987]Stop quoting obvious gimmicks, it makes our deletion job harder. It'll get you banned too.[/QUOTE] Sorry, didn't know you guys deleted the posts too

[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39081884]I quit watching when he wanted to use slugs in an 870 or something to bust a padlock off a door, then use buckshot or bird shot for targets inside. So he loaded the slugs in first, then the bird shot. It took him like 3 shots to blow the padlock off and he couldn't figure out why.[/QUOTE] Oh wow, sad to say I didn't see that video.

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