• Firearms VII- Obrez's at Dawn
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So I was going to be able to trade this mediocre Serbian Mauser for that Universal Carbine, and if I do the deal, do you guys (Felix) think it would be a good candidate to blank adapt and just use for reenacting?
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;39161686]Why, what happened this time? More people telling Ian Thompson that he should be dead/in jail?[/QUOTE] Nothing new exactly just watching news coverage of Ian Thompson and really wanting to punch a crown attorney in the face. Like fuck it's like they play it like a game, THEY GOTTA WIN GOTTA WIN, fuck justice we got to make an example out of this poor guy. [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] And even Ian himself acts all passive and non confrontational in interviews and what not. Man if that was me and I went through all that bullshit holy fuck Alex Jones would burst out of my chest
[QUOTE=raccoon2112;39163291]This is such bullshit. As soon as I get the money to buy a handgun all of the ones I want go out of stock. Looks like I might be getting a NAA mini-master.[/QUOTE] Don't. Just wait. NAA is less than shit.
[QUOTE=/Vandy/;39163386]So I was going to be able to trade this mediocre Serbian Mauser for that Universal Carbine, and if I do the deal, do you guys (Felix) think it would be a good candidate to blank adapt and just use for reenacting?[/QUOTE] If you're going to turn it into a permanent BFG then you should be okay.
[QUOTE=Aman VII;39163409]Nothing new exactly just watching news coverage of Ian Thompson and really wanting to punch a crown attorney in the face. Like fuck it's like they play it like a game, THEY GOTTA WIN GOTTA WIN, fuck justice we got to make an example out of this poor guy. [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] And even Ian himself acts all passive and non confrontational in interviews and what not. Man if that was me and I went through all that bullshit holy fuck Alex Jones would burst out of my chest[/QUOTE] I know, the crown attorney wants to appeal even though he has no justification for it, he just doesn't like the fact that Ian got away with defending himself. At this point, I think writing Harper/your MP/whatever may be the best thing to do now, but not in an angry manner.
[QUOTE=felix the cat;39163480]If you're going to turn it into a permanent BFG then you should be okay.[/QUOTE] Alternatively have the barrel threaded to the same threading as an AK-47 and put on an AK adapter. You'll just need to grind down the AK adapter to fit as flush as possible to the barrel and then blue it or finish it in some way that matches the rifle. That way you can still fire live ammo when you want and you can put tacticool moozle breaks on it that reduce phelt recawl. That and firing an M1 Carbine with live ammunition is a magical experience. Even with a Universal Carbine, which I know suck because I used to own one, they're extremely fun and accurate rifles that are decently reliable. There's a few companies that will thread rifle barrels for you. Usually costs around $100.
Or you get an M1 carbine flash suppressor and weld inside that to restrict the muzzle enough for it to cycle properly. [url]http://www.auto-ordnance.com/Gun-Parts/Auto-Ordnance-M1-Carbine-Flash-Hider-Reproduction.asp[/url]
Even better, forgot they made those things.
But that's an M2 flashhider. He's using it for WWII reenacting
I have access to people/devices for the threading portion, and the guys in my unit just put a [I]fucking bolt[/I] in the barrel to restrict the gas. I might consider it, even though I would have to replace the stock, buy a flip sight, and buy a push trigger somehow even though they aren't USGI spec. Even though they aren't USGI spec do you think those things would still fit?
[QUOTE=felix the cat;39163662]But that's an M2 flashhider. He's using it for WWII reenacting[/QUOTE] Frankly, if they're letting him use a Universal Carbine, I doubt they care about one more inaccuracy. They aren't really the most believable reproductions.
[QUOTE=/Vandy/;39163673]I have access to people/devices for the threading portion, and the guys in my unit just put a [I]fucking bolt[/I] in the barrel to restrict the gas. I might consider it, even though I would have to replace the stock, buy a flip sight, and buy a push trigger somehow even though they aren't USGI spec. Even though they aren't USGI spec do you think those things would still fit?[/QUOTE] Destroying the barrel, replacing the stock, replacing the sights, replacing the trigger group. You might as well just build one from a stripped receiver.
[QUOTE=/Vandy/;39163673]I have access to people/devices for the threading portion, and the guys in my unit just put a [I]fucking bolt[/I] in the barrel to restrict the gas. I might consider it, even though I would have to replace the stock, buy a flip sight, and buy a push trigger somehow even though they aren't USGI spec. Even though they aren't USGI spec do you think those things would still fit?[/QUOTE] Universal Carbines are known for not being compatible with many USGI parts. You might find a few but I don't know which fit and which don't. Also yeah, I'd never put a bolt in a gun to make it cycle with blanks. That's just unsafe when there are much better, less destructive ways of going about it.
Well as long as it passes the 10ft rule (can't tell its farby/incorrect from 10 ft away) then you're OK. So yeah a Universal would be OK if I did the rebuild on it. And why the hell would a receiver blank be easier? That's absurd.
stripped receiver =/= receiver blank
[QUOTE=felix the cat;39163794]stripped receiver =/= receiver blank[/QUOTE] Well thats what I meant, but how would changing parts on a complete gun be harder than building a complete gun out of individual parts, having to be ordered from numerous different places?
You can get literally everything you need from fulton armory (except I'd get a surplus stock instead of paying $100 for a new one)
[QUOTE=/Vandy/;39163811]Well thats what I meant, but how would changing parts on a complete gun be harder than building a complete gun out of individual parts, having to be ordered from numerous different places?[/QUOTE] Because you're changing out the stock, trigger group, sights and barrel. The only thing you are left with is the receiver and the bolt.
[QUOTE=Ridge;39163710]Destroying the barrel, replacing the stock, replacing the sights, replacing the trigger group. You might as well just build one from a stripped receiver.[/QUOTE] All you have to do to make a blank firing semi-auto is drill and tap the muzzle to accept a small insert with an even smaller hole in it. When you want to shoot real bullets out of it again you just unscrew the insert and what you have is basically a recrowned barrel, nothing is ruined and the gun will probably shoot better as a result anyway. Be damn sure you have that insert removed when you go to shoot real bullets though...
So apparently I don't have the technical skills to do [b]ANY[/b] of the affordable gun builds. Not even a fucking Sten build. How the shit do you get into something like this learning when everything is so expensive, anyways? Building a Sten would probably only cost me around $200-300, but if I fuck up it's all worth nothing, not to mention the difficulties of making it ATF-approved.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39165457]So apparently I don't have the technical skills to do [b]ANY[/b] of the affordable gun builds. Not even a fucking Sten build. How the shit do you get into something like this learning when everything is so expensive, anyways? Building a Sten would probably only cost me around $200-300, but if I fuck up it's all worth nothing, not to mention the difficulties of making it ATF-approved.[/QUOTE] build a four-winds
[b]IT'S INFURIATING[/b] [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] Holy fucking automerge, batman [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=ButtsexV3;39165461]build a four-winds[/QUOTE] A what? [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] Oh, incredibly-ghetto shotgun, gotcha :v:
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39165462][b]IT'S INFURIATING[/b] [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] Holy fucking automerge, batman [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] A what? [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] Oh, incredibly-ghetto shotgun, gotcha :v:[/QUOTE] for around $5 you have a perfectly legal and perfectly reliable shotgun, it's amazing to me that more people don't have one
I agree, but you know [b]exactly[/b] what I'm talking about. How do people get into the hobby of gun-kit building if there's no decent way to start out without the risk of fucking up [b]ENORMOUSLY[/b] and potentially throwing away hundreds of dollars? I mean, first you guys said the Suomi was a good start (which according to the experts at several different websites, is an "intermediate to difficult build"), and then apparently the Sten is all sorts of difficult as well (which I don't get in the slightest). I guess I just want something cheap and fun to build that doesn't border on "Chechnya border murder tool", and at the moment an AK is completely out of the question.
the sten is difficult to make legal, not difficult to make. same with the suomi. it's a bitch to take an existing open bolt automatic design and make it closed bolt and semi-auto
And you're right, that's where the major problem is. I wouldn't care much if I wasn't worried about the ATF, but going to pound-you-in-the-ass prison doesn't sound like my idea of a good time. [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] Why the fuck are they so picky, anyways? As long as I were to weld the block in place with the Suomi for the fire selection, I fail to understand why I have to go so far as to shorten the receiver and grind off the lips on the bolt.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39165626]And you're right, that's where the major problem is. I wouldn't care much if I wasn't worried about the ATF, but going to pound-you-in-the-ass prison doesn't sound like my idea of a good time. [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] Why the fuck are they so picky, anyways? As long as I were to weld the block in place with the Suomi for the fire selection, I fail to understand why I have to go so far as to shorten the receiver and grind off the lips on the bolt.[/QUOTE] Because all you have to do is remove the disconnect and it turns full auto
Yeah, I figured as much. Just sucks, I guess. [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] Fuck it, I'm gonna build a PPs-43C. That seems to be the easiest to do properly, at this point. All I have to do is lengthen the barrel, fabricate a longer barrel shroud, install a block for the auto, weld in the trunions, and weld-fix the receiver. It's just lots and lots of simple welding, really. [editline]10th January 2013[/editline] [url]http://www.armslist.com/posts/797570/phoenix-arizona-handguns-for-sale--nib-unfired----hi-point-45acp-pistol-4-5-barrel[/url] $300 for a Hi-Point What in the actual fuck is going on out there?
[QUOTE=Inplabth;39166877]The same guy who made the shovel AK posted [url=http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/148346-PPSh-()-build-giga-thread-(you-bet-your-a**-pictures!)]a huge guide on how to build a 9mm, striker-fired PPSh out of a parts kit and a barrel blank/[/url] The way he converted it from open bolt full auto to closed bolt semi auto is pretty neat actually, because basically all he did was chop the bolt in half and make a new firing pin.[/QUOTE] He's also an absolute fucking madman with the background of a machinist and a workshop the people of the Soviet Union would be proud of :v: Thus why I'm going with a far easier build.
Now that McChrystal says that we need gun control, it's confirmed. What a goddamn turncoat. Get your PVC boys, it's time to hide em.
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