[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37997528]silencers are only ever used by hitmen and cop killers obv. hollywood taught me that[/QUOTE]
shockingly, Hollywood has nothing to do with the restriction on suppressors. their primary use was poaching back in the day.
[QUOTE=matrix_1995;37997451]I remember a Norwegian dude posting pictures of his suppressed Super VEPR .308 and some bolt-action rifle on another forum. I'm just going to dig it up.
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Sweet babby jesus on a rollercoaster, that suppressor looks so good on the VEPR.[/QUOTE]
Iirc here in Norway suppressors don't require any form to fill out even to own.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37997638]shockingly, Hollywood has nothing to do with the restriction on suppressors. their primary use was poaching back in the day.[/QUOTE]
Is poaching even a modern day problem in the US anymore?
I'm not sure, but simply because we don't know about recent occurrences doesn't mean it isn't occurring
It's easier to get a suppressor in the UK or even Germany than it is here in the US :v:
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;37997716]Is poaching even a modern day problem in the US anymore?[/QUOTE]
Very much so. It's very bad in southern states, and it's bad up north as well. Any animal that is killed outside of it's regular hunting season is considered poached. Also, any animal shot on land that you do not have permission to be on, any animal shot after legal hunting hours, as well as using baiting methods is poaching.
The types of weapons that can be used for hunting are highly regulated as well, and there are very few states that allow for suppressors to be used. Louisiana just had a law passed allowing the use of suppressors for hunting. If you are hunting with a weapon that would be considered illegal to hunt with, you will be charged with poaching.
Pretty much the only animals that are not regulated are nuisance animals, like hogs. You can hunt animals like this with any method, weapon, or time of day/night. Hogs are better hunted at night, and people typically hunt them with spot lights or night vision.
DIY econocan
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YEAH LETS SILENCE A 22 WITH A RAG IN A WATER BOTTLE!
hey it works in games
[editline]11th October 2012[/editline]
max payne did it
I just assumed that the brazilian 9mm ammo was shitty and super cheap and a light load.
[QUOTE=matrix_1995;37996277]
My POV in a nutshell. I just don't believe in having a lethal firearm for self-defense. :v:[/QUOTE]
You can have that mindset all you want in a country where criminals are basically never armed
Here in America though, I would argue that more criminals are armed that arent, so it makes more sense to have a firearm for self defense.
[editline]11th October 2012[/editline]
fuck argument ended 2 pages ago and I didnt notice there were two new pages
EJECT
Speaking of self defense. Anyone think that there will be people who will try to break into places and such in early December? Idiots believe anything that will give them a chance to cause havoc when they believe they can get off with no consequences.
i seriously hope that canada fixes their gun laws because srs i want to live on a canadian ranch and fire a FAL out the window at some moose
also cheap weed
[QUOTE=Nikota;37998015]Speaking of self defense. Anyone think that there will be people who will try to break into places and such in early December? I[B]diots believe anything that will give them a chance to cause havoc when they believe they can get off with no consequences.[/B][/QUOTE]
huh?
oh my lord that is beautiful
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[QUOTE=Timebomb575;37998026]huh?[/QUOTE]
Mayans man. Midget Mexicans have to renew their calendar so the world is ending.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;37997442]You could always get a Mini-14. Used they usually don't cost an arm and a leg and there's a quite a lot of aftermarket for them.[/QUOTE]
uhm mini 14 mags are either shitty or really expensive
they're also not really accurate (no, not new models either)
also, they're [B]rugers[/B]
[QUOTE=Lizzrd;37997706]Iirc here in Norway suppressors don't require any form to fill out even to own.[/QUOTE]
they are completely unregulated
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;37997811]It's easier to get a suppressor in the UK or even Germany than it is here in the US :v:[/QUOTE]
in the UK you're actually encouraged to use suppressors.. that way hunting is way less disturbing for bystanders
[QUOTE=Honesty;37998216]in the UK you're actually encouraged to use suppressors.. that way hunting is way less disturbing for bystanders[/QUOTE]
They are encouraged to use suppressors, but extremely discouraged from having firearms. How does that even work.
I find it depressing how in Canada and in a lot of European countries having a firearm for self defense is some how an evil frowned upon thing.
Anti's try their absolute hardest to make guns only for "sporting purposes".
Why is the (in my opinion) right to defend yourself and family a bad thing? Just cause we live in the modern era and we use guns now instead of always carrying a sword on our waist the reasoning behind it hasn't changed. The general populous seems to put all their faith in the system and government to care for them and save them in their time of need, I find that dependency sort of eerie. What is so wrong with being a "free man" so to speak and being self reliant?
/minirant
I find it depressing how in the US having a firearm for self defence is somehow a good thing.
Pros try their absolute hardest to make SD and HD "necessary".
Why is the need to defend yourself a good thing? We live in a modern era and we should be safe now instead of wondering whether our neighbour will break in, steal my Samsung 60", rape my girlfriend and punch my kitten. We have a functioning society now and the reasoning behind it hasn't changed. The general populous seems to put all their faith in their shitty 1911 and surplus ammo to care for them and to save them in their time of need, and I find that dependency incredibly frightening. What is so wrong with living somewhere you do not have to fear for your own life?
/yurorant
Just because I have self defense loads in my house doesn't mean that I [I]want[/I] to have to use them. It's just that if I [I]have[/I] to, I'd rather be allowed to rather than having the government tell me I'm not allowed to defend my family from intruders.
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Besides, just the presentation of a firearm is usually enough of a deterrent, where a knife or bat is not.
[QUOTE=Honesty;37998615]I find it depressing how in the US having a firearm for self defence is somehow a good thing.
Pros try their absolute hardest to make SD and HD "necessary".
Why is the need to defend yourself a good thing? We live in a modern era and we should be safe now instead of wondering whether our neighbour will break in, steal my Samsung 60", rape my girlfriend and punch my kitten. We have a functioning society now and the reasoning behind it hasn't changed. The general populous seems to put all their faith in their shitty 1911 and surplus ammo to care for them and to save them in their time of need, and I find that dependency incredibly frightening. What is so wrong with living somewhere you do not have to fear for your own life?
/yurorant[/QUOTE]
Just because it's the year 2012 doesn't mean the world is any more civilized than it was over the last 2,000 years. Sorry but you were born too soon, we got a very long way to go before the world you envision becomes a reality.
No, I live in a safe area, and it seems the US is nowhere close to being as civilised as Scandinavia is. I don't have to pack a gun to feel safe, you do.
You tell me what that tells you.
[QUOTE=Honesty;37998615]I find it depressing how in the US having a firearm for self defence is somehow a good thing.
Pros try their absolute hardest to make SD and HD "necessary".
Why is the need to defend yourself a good thing? We live in a modern era and we should be safe now instead of wondering whether our neighbour will break in, steal my Samsung 60", rape my girlfriend and punch my kitten. We have a functioning society now and the reasoning behind it hasn't changed. The general populous seems to put all their faith in their shitty 1911 and surplus ammo to care for them and to save them in their time of need, and I find that dependency incredibly frightening. What is so wrong with living somewhere you do not have to fear for your own life?
/yurorant[/QUOTE]
I already talked to you on steam about this but,
I don't live in a high-crime area, yet one of the reasons I bought my guns was for Home defense. I don't hope that someone breaks into my house, and I hope that I never have to kill. I bought it [B]JUST IN CASE[/B] someone broke into my home. I bought a Fire Extinguisher [B]JUST IN CASE[/B] a fire broke out in my home, although I've never had my house burnt or anything along the lines of that, I still have one just in case the need ever rises to use it.
As for the dependency of using a Firearm to defend yourself; I'm not exactly FIT, and I can't subdue someone who would break into my home, my guns are the only thing I have.
/amerifat rant
I really want a ptr 91 or a cetme. I just want a G3A3
[img]http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/38443-2/CETME_3348.jpg[/img]
i like the dudes face too
[QUOTE=Honesty;37998615]I find it depressing how in the US having a firearm for self defence is somehow a good thing.
Pros try their absolute hardest to make SD and HD "necessary".
Why is the need to defend yourself a good thing? We live in a modern era and we should be safe now instead of wondering whether our neighbour will break in, steal my Samsung 60", rape my girlfriend and punch my kitten. We have a functioning society now and the reasoning behind it hasn't changed. The general populous seems to put all their faith in their shitty 1911 and surplus ammo to care for them and to save them in their time of need, and I find that dependency incredibly frightening. What is so wrong with living somewhere you do not have to fear for your own life?
/yurorant[/QUOTE]
Go compare Norway's crimerates to the US'. Call it lack of civilization or whatever you want, but being able to defend your home is a necessity in some areas of our country. You don't have to be a prick about it.
[QUOTE=Honesty;37998615]I find it depressing how in the US having a firearm for self defence is somehow a good thing.
Pros try their absolute hardest to make SD and HD "necessary".
Why is the need to defend yourself a good thing? We live in a modern era and we should be safe now instead of wondering whether our neighbour will break in, steal my Samsung 60", rape my girlfriend and punch my kitten. We have a functioning society now and the reasoning behind it hasn't changed. The general populous seems to put all their faith in their shitty 1911 and surplus ammo to care for them and to save them in their time of need, and I find that dependency incredibly frightening. What is so wrong with living somewhere you do not have to fear for your own life?
/yurorant[/QUOTE]
It doesn't fucking matter where you live, You. Are. Never. SAFE, PERIOD. No place in the world is safe, every place has danger. Oh, you live in a really fucking awesome neighborhood where nothing has happened yet? That doesn't mean it wont happen, Self Defense is there for a reason. No matter where on this fucking earth you go it will NEVER be safe.
[QUOTE=Honesty;37998955]No, I live in a safe area, and it seems the US is nowhere close to being as civilised as Scandinavia is. I don't have to pack a gun to feel safe, you do.
You tell me what that tells you.[/QUOTE]
feeling safe is just a mentality
i can walk around in Detroit at night and say i feel safe, i can come to scandinavia and walk around and say i feel in danger because of bears or something
but you're better than us right?
[QUOTE=Honesty;37998216]uhm mini 14 mags are either shitty or really expensive
they're also not really accurate (no, not new models either)
also, they're [B]rugers[/B]
[/QUOTE]
Mini 14's are actually pretty damn accurate, so whatever you've heard is wrong or any Mini 14 you handled was probably you're fault cause you're probably a shitty shooter. And whats wrong with rugers? Rugers are pretty damn nice weapons.
edit: Pageking, some content.
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