Firearms VII- Obrez's at Dawn - General

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;38089234]They didnt go under Hell they just announced a new shotgun at SHOT this year [img]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/DEG169/9RS7u.jpg[/img] [editline]18th October 2012[/editline] and they have a decent-ish website [url]http://calicolightweaponsystems.com/home/[/url][/QUOTE] closest thing to a pancor i'll ever own god dammit calico hurry up

Cleveland PD did a gun buyback and netted themselves a WW2 German Ruger pistol, .22 caliber [url]http://www.19actionnews.com/category/240218/video-landing-page?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=7851597[/url]

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;38089704][url]http://www.armslist.com/posts/610284/cleveland-ohio-rifles-for-sale--pre-ban-lnib-calico-m-900-9mm-collapsable-stock-carbine--50-rd-drum[/url] oh god oh god I need to talk myself out of this before I do something silly[/QUOTE] Holy fuck why would you even need a 50 round mag?

Invite me to the group <3

[QUOTE=avon43;38090902]Holy fuck why would you even need a 50 round mag?[/QUOTE] so I can fight off spaceballs and robotic police officers, obviously [editline]18th October 2012[/editline] Im so glad prussel isnt here right now because he would probably be shitting all over Calico

[QUOTE=Garb;38090932]Invite me to the group <3[/QUOTE] the group is public, just join it.

[QUOTE=Ridge;38090796]Cleveland PD did a gun buyback and netted themselves a WW2 German Ruger pistol, .22 caliber [url]http://www.19actionnews.com/category/240218/video-landing-page?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=7851597[/url][/QUOTE] "Get a $100 gift card for your $300+ gun C:"

[QUOTE=Ridge;38090796]Cleveland PD did a gun buyback and netted themselves a WW2 German Ruger pistol, .22 caliber [url]http://www.19actionnews.com/category/240218/video-landing-page?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=7851597[/url][/QUOTE] A bunch of fucking idiots. The whole lot of em.

[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;38091967]A bunch of fucking idiots. The whole lot of em.[/QUOTE] There was a buyback program locally a few years ago where a guy traded an RPG-7 and several rockets for it for a pair of Air Jordan shoes.

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;38089234]They didnt go under Hell they just announced a new shotgun at SHOT this year [img]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/DEG169/9RS7u.jpg[/img] [editline]18th October 2012[/editline] and they have a decent-ish website [url]http://calicolightweaponsystems.com/home/[/url][/QUOTE] Is the one in the middle a shotgun? Good Christ look at the SIZE of that thing! Is it bad that I kind of want one? [editline]18th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Timebomb575;38089704][url]http://www.armslist.com/posts/610284/cleveland-ohio-rifles-for-sale--pre-ban-lnib-calico-m-900-9mm-collapsable-stock-carbine--50-rd-drum[/url] oh god oh god I need to talk myself out of this before I do something silly[/QUOTE] Fucking go for it!

Check out this totally original pistol design from Zastava... [IMG]http://www.aimsurplus.com/eos/images/product//large_f1cz99.jpg[/IMG] I just realized it has no slide stop, even though it has a cutout for it... [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/bkgkQl.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Mr. Foster;38087423] I'm a fairly avid hunter, and know a good deal about animals here in the States. I can tell you, a fox would be near the top of my list for not wanting as a pet. Have you ever been near a fox? They have an awful smell, and can be incredibly wild. A coyote would be a better choice. If you get them young they can be tamed, and they are actually better learners than dogs. They do still maintain some wild instincts though.[/QUOTE] Yes I have, I used to photograph the foxes in the park next to my house. There are plenty of people who have pet foxes and their are ways to make them more domestic. And getting a coyote is not an option. Imagine if it got out, mated with other dogs, it would be a bigger problem than foxes in Australia.

The difference is that foxes can actually be domesticated (and there already are domestic foxes), unlike coyotes.

So I'm planning on getting a H&K USC .45 and converting it into a UMP .45, considering UMP .45s are hard to get, would this be a good move?

[QUOTE=EvilMattress;38094553]So I'm planning on getting a H&K USC .45 and converting it into a UMP .45, considering UMP .45s are hard to get, would this be a good move?[/QUOTE] If you're referring to cosmetic changes then there isn't a whole lot to do except cut off that massive stock and reduce the barrel length. Though, by intuition, I'm guessing bringing a saw to the barrel of a proper cartridge would give you different results than doing the same to a shotgun barrel. If you mean that you're going to change it mechanically from semi-auto to full-auto then good luck (I don't even know if it is or not but here in Canada they sell them semi-auto). Also, I hope what you're doing isn't illegal.

[QUOTE=EvilMattress;38094553]So I'm planning on getting a H&K USC .45 and converting it into a UMP .45, considering UMP .45s are hard to get, would this be a good move?[/QUOTE] Pricey as hell. [URL="http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=310801728"]The gun goes for between $1200 and $1600 on gunbroker.[/URL] [URL="http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-UMP-Safe-Semi-FBI-0-1-Lower-229p590.htm"]Lower is $400[/URL] [URL="http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/USC-UMP-Stock-Block-B-229p773.htm"]Folding stock adapter $195[/URL] [URL="http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/UMP-Folding-Stock-US-229p2094.htm"]Folding stock $100[/URL] [URL="http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/UMP-USC-Rear-Stock-Pin-229p604.htm"]Stock pin $15[/URL] [URL="http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/UMP-45-Cal-25-Round-HK-German-Used-229p2743.htm"]25rd Mag $75[/URL] Hell, here is a whole list [URL]http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-USC-to-UMP-Conversion-Parts-c229.htm[/URL] Looking at over $2000 for a semi auto .45 carbine

[QUOTE=HellSoldier;38095115]If you're referring to cosmetic changes then there isn't a whole lot to do except cut off that massive stock and reduce the barrel length. Though, by intuition, I'm guessing bringing a saw to the barrel of a proper cartridge would give you different results than doing the same to a shotgun barrel. If you mean that you're going to change it mechanically from semi-auto to full-auto then good luck (I don't even know if it is or not but here in Canada they sell them semi-auto). Also, I hope what you're doing isn't illegal.[/QUOTE] Cosmetic change, replace USC lower (including stock) with the UMP lower, and replace the ridiculously long barrel with a short-barrel. My father can legally change it from semi to full-auto but it costs quite a pretty penny to do so, and we'd probably be spending almost 2,000 dollars as it is just for the USC + conversion But maybe someday it'll be full-auto

[QUOTE=Ridge;38093109]Check out this totally original pistol design from Zastava... [IMG]http://www.aimsurplus.com/eos/images/product//large_f1cz99.jpg[/IMG] I just realized it has no slide stop, even though it has a cutout for it... [/QUOTE] We Xabe new weapon desjgn js orjgjnal jou ljxe? Loox, gun has pjcjdilly rajls, fleshljght, booluts. Js all jou need please buj gun, gjve us money and jou shoot people. For the low, low cost of 4,000 Srbske Djnars!

Honestly, most of those items you can grab on ebay, gunbroker, or any other site like that and get them for maybe half the price. And if I get lucky I could probably get the USC for about 200-300 dollars less than the average going rate, maybe more, depending. And the *brand new* USCs mostly go for about 1200, used guns are far better to modify like this, and down here in the South I can probably grab a USC at a gunshow for about 800-900

Buy a UMP parts kit and use the receiver from your USC to make a sweet as fuck SBR [editline]19th October 2012[/editline] I assume that's what you're saying?

My very goal indeed, I'll post some gnarly pics when I get everything together

Should build an MP5 while your at it. You can buy receiver flats and parts kits cheaper than the UMP parts I think... [editline]19th October 2012[/editline] [url]http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-USC-to-UMP-Conversion-Parts-c229.htm[/url] [editline]19th October 2012[/editline] What I really want is an MP5 in 10mm auto

You mean like the MP-5/10? [IMG]http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af360/sling10mm/mp5-10.jpg[/IMG]

Fuck my government, we can't even get a .22 MP-5 lookalike from GSG, they banned it as a "variant," though we can get the .22 ISSC SCAR, but not the FN SCAR-16S. Gah, I know I bitch about dumb shit here a lot, but it just pisses me off, the laws make no sense and are applied horribly unevenly. Any gun that would be "fun" is banned, or they try their best to make it banned.

[QUOTE=Ridge;38095573]You mean like the MP-5/10? [IMG]http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af360/sling10mm/mp5-10.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Exactly what I mean. Make me hard just looking at it [editline]19th October 2012[/editline] I suspect it would make a pretty good scrub pig gun

Might be my next project after I let my wallet cool down for a few weeks

[QUOTE=EvilMattress;38095757]Might be my next project after I let my wallet cool down for a few weeks[/QUOTE] I know for damn sure I may do either an AR-15 or a bullpup project next week. If I was more experienced with gunsmithing I would do both at the same time.

[QUOTE=download;38095367]Buy a UMP parts kit and use the receiver from your USC to make a sweet as fuck SBR [editline]19th October 2012[/editline] I assume that's what you're saying?[/QUOTE] $1200 for the gun, [url=http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/UMP-45-Used-German-Parts-Kit-194p589.htm]$1500 for the parts kit[/url]

[img]http://i.cubeupload.com/fqhNlX.jpg[/img] Springfield 1881 trapdoor rifle, actual antique. Recoil is shit, but if I can control it the gun has a range of 1400 yards Oh, and I almost forgot: pageking!

Can you it anything at 1400 yards though?