[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;37799021]You sure they didn't mistake the rifle you wanted to order as being a Barrett M98?
Unless that is what you wanted, I can't really tell. M98 as in a Gewehr 98?[/QUOTE]
I was referring to the Gewehr 98, I mentioned I was looking if they could order any of the short/carbine length German, Chilean or Israeli variants of the Mauser.
The man at the order desk points me to a beat up Cz. 24 that would probably need to be refinished and polished just to be in decent condition for $700, and then a Yugo 24/47 sharing the same condition of the Czech Mauser for $550.
[QUOTE=Milkyway M16;37796884]What's wrong with Remington's guns? I've fired a few 870's and a 700. The 870 is an amazing shotgun and the 700 shot quarter sized groups at 100 yards.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion, outside the 870, Remington's guns are just not as good quality wise for the price compared to other companies comparative guns.
I've had a chance to handle a new Remington 1911, and it was very high quality for the price. When I think about it I might argue it's the best 1911 for its price range.
[QUOTE=Skullivan21;37800091]I've had a chance to handle a new Remington 1911, and it was very high quality for the price. When I think about it I might argue it's the best 1911 for its price range.[/QUOTE]
you mean the R1? I'd rather pay a little more and have a Kimber Custom II. It's a $200 difference in price but a $800 difference in quality
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37800200]you mean the R1? I'd rather pay a little more and have a Kimber Custom II. It's a $200 difference in price but a $800 difference in quality[/QUOTE]
Yeah an R1... or was it an Enhanced... I don't remember, but my friend got it for like 600 or something and at that price I'd say it's at least up to par with a kimber. All that said comparing 1911's is like comparing water bottle brands, there are minor differences like trigger but tbh if thery're not complete shit (Fucking Broken) they're all at least decent.
from what I've seen R1s have some problems with feeding and the triggers are pretty inconsistent
sometimes they're the best gun in the world but sometimes they're horrid. with a Kimber you know you're getting something good
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37800486]from what I've seen R1s have some problems with feeding and the triggers are pretty inconsistent
sometimes they're the best gun in the world but sometimes they're horrid. with a Kimber you know you're getting something good[/QUOTE]
Every 1911 is either good or bad... Kimbers can be awful, I've seen it. But they can be great, the only reason they're considered better is because they have a higher good rate. It's just the way with 1911's, you get either good or bad with no in between... (good and bad is usually based on the trigger's quality)...
[QUOTE=Skullivan21;37800699]Every 1911 is either good or bad... Kimbers can be awful, I've seen it. But they can be great, the only reason they're considered better is because they have a higher good rate. It's just the way with 1911's, you get either good or bad with no in between... (good and bad is usually based on the trigger's quality)...[/QUOTE]
I would still pay $200 to be guaranteed a higher chance of getting something better than not.
[QUOTE=0FucksGiven;37793466]quit using shitty low grain russian ammo
or learn to stop limp wristing
There's either something wrong with you, the gun(s), or your ammo, because I've put about ~500 rounds through my Beretta and I haven't had a single malfunction. I clean it properly after every shooting, too.[/QUOTE]
We were running Federal. Can't remember the grain of the rounds. The weapons were clean. And it's not my wrist, I have no problems with other pistols.
Again, I've tried several different examples of the 92 series and they're just shoddy weapons. Maybe you got lucky but honestly it's kind of a low tier pistol. Sorry.
[quote=ButtsexV3]they're picky about mags. if you get just one grain of sand in the mag the whole thing stops working[/quote]
That might have been the case, not sure. All I know is the collective experience with the different examples I've tried just ruined my outlook on Beretta handguns. That said, there's no gun I won't at least try, so that could change.
was it a (made before 2006) parkerized mags or a newer one? the older parkerized ones will start getting shit stuck inside in a dust free environment just from regular operation, the follower after a couple hundred rounds will start scraping off the finish and will eventually gum up the follower
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37800486]from what I've seen R1s have some problems with feeding and the triggers are pretty inconsistent
sometimes they're the best gun in the world but sometimes they're horrid. with a Kimber you know you're getting something good[/QUOTE]
My buddy's Kimber spent more time in their warranty department than on the range. He eventually sold it.
the newer ones have a different finish that gunk doesn't stick to
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[QUOTE=Ridge;37802220]My buddy's Kimber spent more time in their warranty department than on the range. He eventually sold it.[/QUOTE]
tell him to stop using cheap ammo and start cleaning it properly
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;37801259]I would still pay $200 to be guaranteed a higher chance of getting something better than not.[/QUOTE]
Hellsoldier, what was that gun you posted in the PA thread when people were making fun of you for being a rich fuck?(seriously virgin galactic tickets... so jealous. so jealous...)
Wait, HellSoldier has enough dosh for Virgin Galactic tickets? Care to help a fellow Torontonian afford a good Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon?
Half joking, but seriously, damn. There's a [url=http://www.tacticalimports.ca/gm6-lynx-p-3.html]nice semi-auto .50 cal[/url] you should buy too if that's the case.
[QUOTE=paindoc;37802337]Hellsoldier, what was that gun you posted in the PA thread when people were making fun of you for being a rich fuck?(seriously virgin galactic tickets... so jealous. so jealous...)[/QUOTE]
that was a steyr scout
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;37802414]Wait, HellSoldier has enough dosh for Virgin Galactic tickets? Care to help a fellow Torontonian afford a good Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon?
Half joking, but seriously, damn. There's a [URL="http://www.tacticalimports.ca/gm6-lynx-p-3.html"]nice semi-auto .50 cal[/URL] you should buy too if that's the case.[/QUOTE]
I think I'll get a .50 cal when I've got a steadier income.
That or just a bunch more different guns (perhaps try a hand at importing a rare one from the States if possible).
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37802419]that was a steyr scout[/QUOTE]
RCMP is being a bitch and there's this one asshole at the CFO in Ontario who won't process my damn file. It's been like fucking nine months you lazy assbutt. I've called him like three times and left three messages but I dunno maybe he died or something.
I'm going to call him again tomorrow for kicks.
Isn't it an NR? Are you bringing it in from Austria and it's never been here before and they've got to make an FRT number for it? Because if it's here and you've got your card, you can legally just take it home, no CFO involved, it's a non-restricted.
Or is the problem with your card being processed? Because nine months is fucking ridiculous, it should only take about 1-3. Contact your MP, sometimes if the CFO hears from a politician they get a fire lit under their asses.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;37802550]Isn't it an NR? Are you bringing it in from Austria and it's never been here before and they've got to make an FRT number for it? Because if it's here and you've got your card, you can legally just take it home, no CFO involved, it's a non-restricted.
Or is the problem with your card being processed? Because nine months is fucking ridiculous, it should only take about 1-3. Contact your MP, sometimes if the CFO hears from a politician they get a fire lit under their asses.[/QUOTE]
It's a non-restricted and restricted license. I don't have my card yet. It's still being being processed by a CFO. If I don't get a proper answer from the guy tomorrow I'm definitely going to write off a letter to my MP.
I've had a freaking Steyr Scout sitting in the Praetorian Tactical storage locker somewhere out for god knows how long so I didn't have to take care of any of that importing business. I would [I]really[/I] like to finally get my hands on it, buy some ammo, and get out to a close-by range. Best thing is that it won't even need to be registered!
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;37802446]I think I'll get a .50 cal when I've got a [B][I]steadier[/I][/B] income.
That or just a bunch more different guns (perhaps try a hand at importing a rare one from the States if possible).
RCMP is being a bitch and there's this one asshole at the CFO in Ontario who won't process my damn file. It's been like fucking nine months you lazy assbutt. I've called him like three times and left three messages but I dunno maybe he died or something.
I'm going to call him again tomorrow for kicks.[/QUOTE]
Seriously man, what the hell do you do? Nice Steyr Scout by the way, I've always liked those. Nice look to them.
My Dad was going to buy a .50 cal, then it was an ACR, then an M16, then M4, and now nothing.
Also, you now how I said I got those two guns from my grandfather? Well he had 4 daughters(one of which is my mom, the one who supported him in his cancer battle the most) and one son. He was always loving of my uncle, but tried to push him really really hard since he knew he had the potential. He estranged himself eventually due to taking it personally. Anyways, when he passed and my grandmother was ready to move stuff out, he took the majority of the things. I got 4 Air Force paintings, his old Falcon NW computer, and those two guns(not complaining by any means). The guns however were totally hoarded by him. Here is what he took;
- 2 .20 gauge shotguns, an over under (New in Box, from 1973), and a side by side
- 2 .12 gauge shotguns, same as above(OU and SS)
- 30-30 lever action carbine(sick as fuck, was sexy)
- 4 pistols. Two .357 revolvers, a 9mil, and one 22 target pistol
He is going to sell ALL of them to buy an M16. ALL OF MY RAGE. Mind you, some of these guns belonged to deceased family and friends, and are mostly pre-90's. Newest one is 1987 I believe.
So he went through and valued all the guns and gave me what he thought was cheapest, but the jokes on him! The thing he thought was a .22 is some kind of super awesome Elephant air rifle, and the Model 700 is awesome!
Sorry for the rant, but thinking of his actions just pisses me off. Especially since my grandfather said he wanted us to have the guns, but my father was too nice and non-confrontational.
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;37802586]It's a non-restricted and restricted license. I don't have my card yet. It's still being being processed by a CFO. If I don't get a proper answer from the guy tomorrow I'm definitely going to write off a letter to my MP.
I've had a freaking Steyr Scout sitting in the Praetorian Tactical storage locker somewhere out for god knows how long so I didn't have to take care of any of that importing business. I would [I]really[/I] like to finally get my hands on it, buy some ammo, and get out to a close-by range. Best thing is that it won't even need to be registered![/QUOTE]
If it's a restricted license and you don't belong to a range, then that could be what's causing it. The CFO is trying to make a new law (again) that requires you to be a member of a range to own a restricted or have the license, because you can't possibly own a firearm for target shooting if you're not a member of a range, I mean, it's not like you could have come on hard economic times or spent some extended time out of the country or recovering from an illness/injury that would make a range membership unnecessary/impractical for a period that means you can't take your guns out target shooting or something, no, never.
But yeah, you can check your application's progress on the RCMP's website as well. Don't remember how, but I know that you can.
Remember to be polite to them on the phone, but firm. Don't threaten them that you'll go to a politician, but express your concern for the delay politely but firmly and let them know you're disgruntled. We're not BC, where an ATT takes 2 months, 9 months at the Ontario CFO is ridiculous.
Contact your MP anyways, though. The more politicians who hear that gun owners here are pissed at the CFO, the more likely it is that something will be done about them. I can't, really, because Mike Sullivan is a Dipper, so he'd probably rather order the CFO to melt my guns down in front of me. I know it'd get nowhere. That, and thankfully I haven't had a reason or occasion to need to complain, yet.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;37802703]If it's a restricted license and you don't belong to a range, then that could be what's causing it. The CFO is trying to make a new law (again) that requires you to be a member of a range to own a restricted or have the license, because you can't possibly own a firearm for target shooting if you're not a member of a range, I mean, it's not like you could have come on hard economic times or spent some extended time out of the country or recovering from an illness/injury that would make a range membership unnecessary/impractical for a period that means you can't take your guns out target shooting or something, no, never.
But yeah, you can check your application's progress on the RCMP's website as well. Don't remember how, but I know that you can.
Remember to be polite to them on the phone, but firm. Don't threaten them that you'll go to a politician, but express your concern for the delay politely but firmly and let them know you're disgruntled. We're not BC, where an ATT takes 2 months, 9 months at the Ontario CFO is ridiculous.
Contact your MP anyways, though. The more politicians who hear that gun owners here are pissed at the CFO, the more likely it is that something will be done about them. I can't, really, because Mike Sullivan is a Dipper, so he'd probably rather order the CFO to melt my guns down in front of me. I know it'd get nowhere. That, and thankfully I haven't had a reason or occasion to need to complain, yet.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I've been reading about that. I'm seeing us get closer to gun 'freedom' with the elimination of the long gun registry (in some respect) but then I see us taking steps back with things like this. Democracy is a fickle mistress.
I've tried checking it up on the website but it never returns anything for me and says that my application doesn't exist or that I don't exist (both of which are pretty far fetched last I checked).
Yeah, the whole routine over the phone is really starting to chafe me. I get that they're doing they're job and they probably deal with a few people like me on a periodic basis but it's pretty hard to take your frustration out on one person when the object that [I]should[/I] take the blame is a bureaucracy that allows things like this to happen.
Also I've no idea what to think of my MP thus far. Last I checked on his profile he didn't have a vote when C-19 was in Parliament (apart from a time allocation) but he seems to share the same vote as the rest of his Conservative party members so that's [I]some[/I] hope I'm guessing.
I got around to taking pictures of those two guns. I took 3 pictures of the Elephant logo only because I could not get a very clear one, and chose the two best.
Model 700 first;
[IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/npqn6h.jpg[/IMG_THUMB]
[IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/40FgQh.jpg[/IMG_THUMB]
As you can see, it is in awesome condition. My grandfather took care of his shit.
Elephant gun(haha);
[IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/7Py3Mh.jpg[/IMG_THUMB]
[IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/az3wxh.jpg[/IMG_THUMB]
[IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/yU2ALh.jpg[/IMG_THUMB]
[IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/PkQdTh.jpg[/IMG_THUMB]
[IMG_THUMB]http://i.imgur.com/zoztch.jpg[/IMG_THUMB]
Both damn sexy rifles. I'm probably either going to buy a Mosin next or buy back one of the .20 gauges from my uncle
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;37801259]I would still pay $200 to be guaranteed a higher chance of getting something better than not.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you on that... but 200 bucks buy's you like 6% more of a chance of getting a better gun... When you buy a 1911 nothing until custom shops and 1k or more production guns is better than anything else. A Kimber, STI, Remington, etc,etc are all built to the same specs on similar machinery. All your getting is a slightly better QC. But Kimbers tend to still not be that good. It's like this, When you buy a cheap 1911 and it's bad your like ok wasn't surprised, when it's good you tell everyone. With Kimber's though you expect better quality so when you get a pos your pissed more.
Essentially your paying 200 bucks more for the chance to be really disappointing in a shitty Kimber. Why not just step it up by another 200 bucks and get a Dan Wesson or a Les Baer?
[QUOTE=HellSoldier;37802858]Yeah, I've been reading about that. I'm seeing us get closer to gun 'freedom' with the elimination of the long gun registry (in some respect) but then I see us taking steps back with things like this. Democracy is a fickle mistress.
I've tried checking it up on the website but it never returns anything for me and says that my application doesn't exist or that I don't exist (both of which are pretty far fetched last I checked).
Yeah, the whole routine over the phone is really starting to chafe me. I get that they're doing they're job and they probably deal with a few people like me on a periodic basis but it's pretty hard to take your frustration out on one person when the object that [I]should[/I] take the blame is a bureaucracy that allows things like this to happen.
Also I've no idea what to think of my MP thus far. Last I checked on his profile he didn't have a vote when C-19 was in Parliament (apart from a time allocation) but he seems to share the same vote as the rest of his Conservative party members so that's [I]some[/I] hope I'm guessing.[/QUOTE]
Tory MP in Toronto, which one?
Also, a lot of people have been getting correspondence from Vic Toews, who has essentially said he's not doing anything more for gun owners. Most gun owners are pissed about this, and are holding donations to the Tories and writing him and their MPs en-mass about repealing C-68, or at least eliminating ATTs, that's what people are moving for next.
IMHO, with 1911s you go GI or go home.
A Colt is the only commercial 1911 I'd ever buy unless I had some enormous amount of spare cash for a top end Wilson Combat
GIs have shit triggers
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;37804281]GIs have shit triggers[/QUOTE]
A trigger seems like something relatively easy to swap out with aftermarket parts.
Am I wrong?
[QUOTE=ewitwins;37804304]A trigger seems like something relatively easy to swap out with aftermarket parts.
Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]
it isn't particularly difficult to swap out but it takes certain tools and costs money to do so. a GI costs what, $500? At the same price point you could get a Rock Island Armory 1911A1 with a trigger that is nearly 10 times better imo
Dacommie I'm tempted to buy you a Captain Canada title
It may have a shitty trigger, but they flat out work 100% of the time.
Anyways, even a shitty 1911 trigger is still a decent trigger compared to other guns.
Plus it's a fucking combat pistol, not a super match grade nail driving IPCS gun.
I find that people that bitch and moan about triggers simply have bad trigger control.
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