Burqas are unhealthy. All humans need vitamin D from the sun.
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Burqas prevent that.
Down with the burka and the dark aged religion Islam.
[QUOTE=yuki;22978612]I love all the people that insinuate all Muslims are terrorists. Nice job, guys. Let's disregard the fact that the Koran denounces violence, the same as the Christian bible. Nope, terrorists everywhere hurrdurr.
Really, the headdress thing is part of their religion. We don't ban baseball caps because bank robbers and Timothy McVey wore them. Stop being intolerant dickheads.[/QUOTE]
You do know that the koran is a lot more violent, and forgiving at the same time, than the bible is, right?
[QUOTE=yuki;22978612]I love all the people that insinuate all Muslims are terrorists. Nice job, guys. Let's disregard the fact that the Koran denounces violence, the same as the Christian bible. Nope, terrorists everywhere hurrdurr.
Really, the headdress thing is part of their religion. We don't ban baseball caps because bank robbers and Timothy McVey wore them. Stop being intolerant dickheads.[/QUOTE]
Both books advocate violence actually.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;22977459]You're a fucking dolt if you don't realize that the ten commandments lay the basis for most western law systems today. The most Jewish justice system in the world is probrably the American where the key words are "revenge and punishment" the more... humane flavor, based on protestantism is the one we employ in northern europe. there, rehabilitation and emotional punishment are more of an emphasis.
Stupid teens. go the fuck to school, willye? EVERY western societys foundation lies on those principles that were first founded by the Oral (later written) legend of Moses and the ten commandments that LATER was incorporated into a compilation of moral teachings called the Bible.
people can believe what makes their world a good place to be. When religion is used to encourage murder and ignorance, i set my personal border and prepare myself to scream some actual thruths into their faces. but DON'T ruin freedom for the good people. Not every Christian is a fucking inbred bastard from the Bible Belt. Not every muslim dreams of fucking 72 virgins and blowing themselves up...
Believe it or not, fuckbucket, some people actually understand their own religion... unlike those fucking barbarians who make up the bible belt and a slice of the Muslims.
Take your generalized biggotry elsewhere. It smells like Brainfart here.[/QUOTE]
Actually the basis for western law is from the Romans
Everybody is born with morals, don't act pretentious by saying that only christians have morals. I'm atheist, my morals are very strong, I don't steal, nor do I kill... I especially hate adultery. My morals were taught to me by my atheist parents. Religious morals actually come from pagans. The idea of family and murder being wrong has been around since caveman decided to make groups and not kill each other
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[QUOTE=Bomimo;22977756]Here's the deal. NOT every culture thinks little justified murder is wrong. In fact. Icelandic justice, up to the 16th century, dictadet that anyone who trestassed, stole from your property or (hell yeah) slept with your daughter had voluntarily placed their life in your hands and you could take revenge only by killing him. of course, when this was done, the other family had the same right to kill you for revenge and it often resulted in century long family rivalries... a neverending vicious circle.
I can also say as much as. Human culture has always had SOME way of killing off people that stared at you the wrong way... today we execute some two or three murderes in texas. In anchient Greece, we politely bade people drink acid... When they were "asked" they regarded it as a sentence and it was OBLIGATORY to ingest the liquid and die.
there are many cultures and even more less evolved or consequent cultures in the past. Killing hasn't always been "wrong". You don't kill who you love or your family for obvious reasons. anyone else mean nothing. Not until very recently did murdering anyone mean anything but "well, i can't... i'll get punished" think a bit and wake up. Human history and culture only have about 500 well documented years and another 4000 shakily documented years.
Killing was not a crime in the past. it became somewhere before Moses for some cultures, it became as late as... well... still not yet for others. again, get a clue and stop thinking the whole world is made up of Americans with beliefs that stem from the Abrahamisic religions.
Differen't culture and age= differen't wrongs. No culture= not really any wrongs per cé.
TL;DR: "Right, because everyone thought theft and murder was wrong before the Moses LEGEND showed up :rolleyes:" or even called it theft and murder at all.
of course not, we'd kill them back then... still do today. see the irony? Sorry, but we had no organized culture any where outside egypt back when the moses legend was born. the only people that it was bad to kill was your own tribe. Everyone else was up to your own concience or life philosophy. People just wasn't as alike back then. the world wasn't as united.
No animals ever kill of their own flock, but they're not shy of doing what needs to be done to other flocks. humans are the same.
Oh, Harro... just edited this in here at the point where in told you that Moses didn't just somehow revolutionize morality, but rather put it into words instead of instincts.
You also have to realize that Murder wasn't the only commandment. there are ten of them. all of which relate to common human social conduct. when you think about it, all the Moses legen served as, was a way to relate the fundamental human instincts in societies. That's actually the point of MOST legends, to convey how something works and sometimes why they work.
Legends aren't just fairytales, their point often relate to something very valid between the lines. Often something explaining some part of our reality the best way we could when the Legend kicked off.
The most prominent thing to overshaddow these instincts are culture, or, more specifically, Peer pressure.
and insanity of course.
Anyway, i'm gonna go for a few days again. i'm writing a lot of important stuff that no one gives a shit about anyway because NO MATTER WHAT, they need to be right. screw what history, common sence and knowledge of human psycology says.
P.S. i hate those people who announce when they leave.... going now.[/QUOTE]
bro thats not murder in Iceland, thats just a bad form of justice.
[QUOTE=yuki;22978612]I love all the people that insinuate all Muslims are terrorists. Nice job, guys. Let's disregard the fact that the Koran denounces violence, the same as the Christian bible. Nope, terrorists everywhere hurrdurr.
Really, the headdress thing is part of their religion. We don't ban baseball caps because bank robbers and Timothy McVey wore them. Stop being intolerant dickheads.[/QUOTE]
Here are some interesting verses from the [b]Bible[/b]:
Ezekiel 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . "
Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."
Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "
Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."
Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."
and the [b]Qu'ran[/b]:
Qur'an 8:12 - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Qur'an 8:39 - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"
Qur'an 9:14 - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."
Qur'an 61:4 - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"
[QUOTE=jalit;23003467]Here are some interesting verses from the [B]Bible[/B]:
Ezekiel 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . "
Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."
Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "
Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."
Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."
and the [B]Qu'ran[/B]:
Qur'an 8:12 - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Qur'an 8:39 - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"
Qur'an 9:14 - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."
Qur'an 61:4 - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"[/QUOTE]
Bible: - ''All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.''
Religion should have NO extra rights or privileges in any way/shape or form.
Ban the things, they serve no purpose.
You can see the persons face in quite some burqa models. One of them even is more of a head veil iirc.
I wouldn't want them banned for any reason other thn the fact they are completely antisocial and that acts against alot of what we believe in here in the UK. A teen wearing a hoodie and cap to hide his face is antisocial and attracts attention from law enforcement, why is it any different for the burkas?
I work in Harrods over the holidays and I have to deal with alot of rich arab women who wear the full thing and not only does the burka cut down their potential expressions to 2 but its also quite insulting that they hide themselves from the person they're speaking to.
Ban 'em
[QUOTE=Falchion;23004606]You can see the persons face in quite some burqa models. One of them even is more of a head veil iirc.[/QUOTE]
Eh, do you know what a burqa is?
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FYI, its a dress that completely covers up the whole entire body, including the face.
[QUOTE=pedroion;23005308]Culture
Fucking respect it
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Or Muslims gonna declare :jihad:
All right, can we close this thread? It's impossible to have a discussion about religion on the internet. And this thread wasn't even about religion to begin with...
[QUOTE=Falchion;23004606]You can see the persons face in quite some burqa models. One of them even is more of a head veil iirc.[/QUOTE]
you're thinking of the hijab, bro
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