• Woman gets pregnant with brainless baby, has it anyway
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There should be a test you have to pass before your allowed to have a baby, just like a drivers license but for reproducing. If you don't have it the kid gets impounded, and you get a fine. And then the kid can get shipped off to a couple who puts the key in the ignition, but can't get the car to start...
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;14804233]I can look at said page without blinking once[/QUOTE] Were you born with anencephaly by any chance? I kid...
[QUOTE=Whats This?v3;14791846][b]He's watching you.[/b] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Enencephaly.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] [img]http://digitalblueglobal.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/kermit.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=LLL;14789148]The sad thing is it would probably be screaming in pain if it could, imagine having no brain and being mutilated like that, she is a sick fucked up woman.[/QUOTE] Read thisispain's post... While it is a little messed up I can understand why she would keep it alive. Women develope a love for a child that we men could never understand. While this child may not have any cognitive abilities it is still her child, and if the child is as brain dead as everyone is saying then there is no sense in killing it. I mean if the baby isn't suffering or isn't even conscious of it self for that matter, what is wrong with keeping it alive?
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;14804473]Read thisispain's post... While it is a little messed up I can understand why she would keep it alive. Women develope a love for a child that we men could never understand. While this child may not have any cognitive abilities it is still her child, and if the child is as brain dead as everyone is saying then there is no sense in killing it. I mean if the baby isn't suffering or isn't even conscious of it self for that matter, what is wrong with keeping it alive?[/QUOTE] Because it wastes valuable medicines. If she just let it live naturally and die naturally, it would be allowable.
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;14804552]Because it wastes valuable medicines. If she just let it live naturally and die naturally, it would be allowable.[/QUOTE] Hey, if your willing to pay for it then nothing goes to waste.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;14804573]Hey, if your willing to pay for it then nothing goes to waste.[/QUOTE] It is going to waste. She didn't pay, she got them for free when someone else who needed them more could've ended up taking them instead. It's not like there's an unlimited supply of the stuff. Plus you're just keeping a thoughtless sack of meat alive, when its death will come within 5 years.
Well whoever really needed that medicine should of got there first, medicine is based on a first come first served basis in some respect and how much in need the person is of the drug, the baby is definitely in need, that's all it is life support to keep something like that alive.
[QUOTE=The Puzzle;14804639]Well whoever really needed that medicine should of got there first, medicine is based on a first come first served basis in some respect and how much in need the person is of the drug, the baby is definitely in need, that's all it is life support to keep something like that alive.[/QUOTE] So you really value a (literally) brainless child which has less than 4 years ahead of it more than you'd value a 40 year old physicist who can spend his next 40 years researching how our universe works? First come first serve is a silly, childish concept in these kinds of cases.
[QUOTE=The Puzzle;14804639]the baby is definitely in need, that's all it is life support to keep something like that alive.[/QUOTE] The baby is not "in need." [i]The baby does not need to be alive.[/i] Assuming the determining factor for a "need" to be alive is ability to consciously consider the fact that one is alive.
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;14804739]So you really value a (literally) brainless child which has less than 4 years ahead of it more than you'd value a 40 year old physicist who can spend his next 40 years researching how our universe works? First come first serve is a silly, childish concept in these kinds of cases.[/QUOTE] You forget that not everyone thinks the same way as you or I. Although it may not have a brain, to some people it is still a human being and deserves the same right to live as any other human being.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;14804787]You forget that not everyone thinks the same way as you or I. Although it may not have a brain, to some people it is still a human being and deserves the same right to live as any other human being.[/QUOTE] It doesn't even know it's alive. What's the point?
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;14804739]So you really value a (literally) brainless child which has less than 4 years ahead of it more than you'd value a 40 year old physicist who can spend his next 40 years researching how our universe works? First come first serve is a silly, childish concept in these kinds of cases.[/QUOTE] So you're saying to destroy every baby that won't ever contribute to the world? that's like saying kill every hobo on the streets because he has nothing to contribute to society. How about just killing someone who is paralyzed because they won't contribute to the world. Stupid way to think. [QUOTE=_Twitch_;14804838]It doesn't even know it's alive. What's the point?[/QUOTE] That's the thing you don't know what the baby is going through it could very well be aware of what's going on though unlikely. The mother knows what she has and as long as the medicine is helping her child stay alive then the medicine isn't going to waste.
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;14804838]It doesn't even know it's alive. What's the point?[/QUOTE] There is no point for it's sake, but for the mothers it is. As for your medicines argument, I find that invalid. You speak as if some cancer patient would live if this baby were to die. The medicine used to keep the child alive are simple anti-biotics and breathing apparatus, both of which are commonly available in our developed society. So although they may be going to waste, no one elses life is at stake because of it.
[QUOTE=itchyflakes;14804842]So you're saying to destroy every baby that won't ever contribute to the world? that's like saying kill every hobo on the streets because he has nothing to contribute to society. How about just killing someone who is paralyzed because they won't contribute to the world. Stupid way to think.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between this child and a hobo/paraplegic. First of all, neither require expensive medicines. Second, both can still contribute to society and are aware and appreciative of the fact that they are alive.
[QUOTE=itchyflakes;14804842] That's the thing you don't know what the baby is going through it could very well be aware of what's going on though unlikely. The mother knows what she has and as long as the medicine is helping her child stay alive then the medicine isn't going to waste.[/QUOTE] Yes, we do know. It's science. Without that part of the brain, it has no idea what's going on, and doesn't even respond correctly to stimulus. It's like pouring medicine down the fucking toilet, it doesn't help anyone.
[QUOTE=poryon2;14788870]Oh my god that picture is gross. Who would want a brainless baby anyway? Also: [img_thumb]http://imgkk.com/images/rin8f79.gif[/img_thumb] Oh wait she's a crazy christian bitch that makes sense now.[/QUOTE] Its fucking a human being. jesus christ. i would laugh if your next kid was brainless, just cause you said that
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;14804875]So although they may be going to waste, no one elses life is at stake because of it.[/QUOTE] Right. So people who need something don't deserve to get it for free if a free supply is available, the free stuff should just be thrown away.
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;14804886]Yes, we do know. It's science. Without that part of the brain, it has no idea what's going on, and doesn't even respond correctly to stimulus. It's like pouring medicine down the fucking toilet, it doesn't help anyone.[/QUOTE] It's helping the mother. So what if it's wishful thinking that her baby will get better as long as she has her child in her hands and is happy the medicine is doing it's job.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;14804962]Right. So people who need something don't deserve to get it for free if a free supply is available, the free stuff should just be thrown away.[/QUOTE] The supply could've gone to someone who truly needs and deserves the medicine, and not a vegetable. [QUOTE=itchyflakes;14804989]It's helping the mother. So what if it's wishful thinking that her baby will get better as long as she has her child in her hands and is happy the medicine is doing it's job.[/QUOTE] That's selfish. She could be harming someone else by taking that medicine and wasting it on her blind, brainless parasite instead of letting it to a more deserving recipient.
[quote]An anencephalic baby can't actually be considered human, since it's got no mind. It's a lump of meat that eats and breaths and can't even express the pain it's most likely experiencing all the time.[/quote] Is it bad I laughed at the lump of meat comment?
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;14805004]The supply could've gone to someone who truly needs and deserves the medicine, and not a vegetable.[/QUOTE] ...that's what I've been going at the entire time. We are in agreement on that.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;14804962]Right. So people who need something don't deserve to get it for free if a free supply is available, the free stuff should just be thrown away.[/QUOTE] Dude, penicilan is commonly available for everyone. The people that need that kind of shit in developed countries get it one way or another. Since this kid was born in America chances are the insurance is paying for everything (besides, where the fuck did anyone get the idea that she was getting that stuff for free? for all you know her church or some foundation is paying for it) . [QUOTE=_Twitch_;14805004]The supply could've gone to someone who truly needs and deserves the medicine, and not a vegetable.[/QUOTE] There's a reason why they are called common anti-biotics. The people who truely need them get them too because there is a shit ton of it.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;14805031]...that's what I've been going at the entire time. We are in agreement on that.[/QUOTE] Yup. I was just adding to your statement.
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;14805004]The supply could've gone to someone who truly needs and deserves the medicine, and not a vegetable. That's selfish. She could be harming someone else by taking that medicine and wasting it on her blind, brainless parasite instead of letting it to a more deserving recipient.[/QUOTE] It is also selfish to limit the babies supply of drugs too, regardless of whether death is inevitable you can at least make it's passing a happy one albeit a short one at that.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;14805095]Dude, penicilan is commonly available for everyone. The people that need that kind of shit in developed countries get it one way or another. Since this kid was born in America chances are the insurance is paying for everything (besides, where the fuck did anyone get the idea that she was getting that stuff for free? for all you know her church or some foundation is paying for it) . There's a reason why they are called common anti-biotics. The people who truely need them get them too because there is a shit ton of it.[/QUOTE] That argument would be valid if what she was using was actually penicillin. She uses Pulmicort and Ventolin. [QUOTE=The Puzzle;14805104]It is also selfish to limit the babies supply of drugs too, regardless of whether death is inevitable you can at least make it's passing a happy one albeit a short one at that.[/QUOTE] If a happy, short death was wanted, she would've aborted at 19 weeks.
[QUOTE=Im_God_Like;14804890]Its fucking a human being. jesus christ. i would laugh if your next kid was brainless, just cause you said that[/QUOTE] Not really, it cannot do anything in life, it cannot think, function, hear, see, taste, any of that. It's useless, I don't know how you'd want it alive, because it probably only feels pain and not anything else. Think of being locked in a black room for the rest of your life with immense pain.
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;14805121]That argument would be valid if what she was using was actually penicillin. She uses Pulmicort and Prednisolone. If a happy, short death was wanted, she would've aborted at 19 weeks.[/QUOTE] Dude, both of those are fairly common and are reasonable priced for the amount that would be used (unless you decide to get it without a prescription...) Pulmicort is $0.28 a pill (for a dose of 100mg, which would be way to much for the child) and Prednisolone costs $15 for a 15mg/ml at 5ml (which is way too much for the child as well)
[QUOTE=_Twitch_;14805004]The supply could've gone to someone who truly needs and deserves the medicine, and not a vegetable. That's selfish. She could be harming someone else by taking that medicine and wasting it on her blind, brainless parasite instead of letting it to a more deserving recipient.[/QUOTE] But who is she harming? They gave her a choice of keeping the child or aborting it, obviously the doctors don't see harm or a shortage of medicine in keeping the child alive.
I just find it extremely funny and sad how people are able to cover the horrible truth from themselves to create the illusion that everything's okay. People who do this are actually very selfish, I mean think what this woman is doing... He's keeping alive basically a dead baby. The baby will never think anything, and is forced to just exist. The woman keeps it alive because she wants to play with a real baby instead of a doll, and this is the perfect chance. This is exactly the same case as with pets, If it doesn't talk, it totally agrees with you. Except that with pets the relationship is somewhat interactive, This thing's just a half dead human. This is the real cruelity. "She's a good mother" is not a valid excuse, actually no woman's a good mother before they actually start to see the child grow. First it's just selfishness, And at this case there wont be an end for that.
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