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[QUOTE=evilking1;19721556]Jeez, do people really think in USA that they should own guns so that they could overthrow a government that is acting abusively nowadays?[/QUOTE] are you being sarcastic? if you're serious, yes, they do think they need to own guns,partially for that purpose. if you ask me thats the very most important reason the 2nd amendment needs to stay in place.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;19692314]Finally took a picture of my glock, so here's some content for ya: [IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/k2ke9z.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Go that exsact same one in 9mm because of Australian law.

[QUOTE=evilking1;19721556]Jeez, do people really think in USA that they should own guns so that they could overthrow a government that is acting abusively nowadays?[/QUOTE] yes 2nd Amendment is there for a whole host of reasons, that being the largest one of them.

[QUOTE=Penis Colada;19720937]yes because people still do battle by standing in lines and firing inaccurate smoothbore flintlock muskets at each other that take 20 seconds to reload[/QUOTE] -the point- -your head- [editline]10:38AM[/editline] [QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;19722118]Go that exsact same one in 9mm because of Australian law.[/QUOTE] That is hot. I was thinking of trying to get a Glock 23. I want one bad.

[QUOTE=evilking1;19721556]Jeez, do people really think in USA that they should own guns so that they could overthrow a government that is acting abusively nowadays?[/QUOTE] Yes actually. Our wine cellar doubles as an armory so that we could arm the citizens if a rebellion starts.

Not only that, but guns are good if the government should collapse and a abusive invader comes into the US.

[QUOTE=Oecleus;19727367]Not only that, but guns are good if the government should collapse and a abusive invader comes into the US.[/QUOTE] [I]"I would never invade the US, there would be a gun behind every blade of grass". - [/I]Some Asian General

[QUOTE=DrMortician;19715942]Glocks are known to have an issue with nose diving rounds in the magazine when chambered in .357sig. If you want .357sig get a sig p226 or p229. It's an excellent round, but keep in mind it's just a 9mm +P++.[/QUOTE] Yeah the other benefit of .357sig in the p226 or p229 is that you can swap out the barrel and suddenly have a firearm chambered in .40 S&W. Note however that while .40 S&W mags accept either caliber, the .357sig mags only accept .357sig. .357 sig has a fun bit of recoil. Sharper than you'd expect from the round and the bullet will smash through just about anything. Impressive little caliber.

[QUOTE=GunFox;19727497]Yeah the other benefit of .357sig in the p226 or p229 is that you can swap out the barrel and suddenly have a firearm chambered in .40 S&W. Note however that while .40 S&W mags accept either caliber, the .357sig mags only accept .357sig. .357 sig has a fun bit of recoil. Sharper than you'd expect from the round and the bullet will smash through just about anything. Impressive little caliber.[/QUOTE] 100% wrong about the magazines. I can take a picture of my magazines to prove it. Sig magazines for .357 are the same for .40. They say .357/40 on them. Glocks are the ones that have slightly different magazines for the .357 from the .40. The difference is only the follower though. .357sig kicks a hell of a lot less than .40S&W for me. Way less muzzle flip, faster follow up shots. It feels identical to a hot loaded 9mm.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;19728024]100% wrong about the magazines. I can take a picture of my magazines to prove it. Sig magazines for .357 are the same for .40. They say .357/40 on them. Glocks are the ones that have slightly different magazines for the .357 from the .40. The difference is only the follower though. .357sig kicks a hell of a lot less than .40S&W for me. Way less muzzle flip, faster follow up shots. It feels identical to a hot loaded 9mm.[/QUOTE] That must be (relatively) new. The sigs I've used chambered in .357 sig had magazines that couldn't possibly load .40 S&W. Though I don't doubt your accuracy, it makes sense that they would make the magazines work both ways eventually.

[QUOTE=evilking1;19721556]Jeez, do people really think in USA that they should own guns so that they could overthrow a government that is acting abusively nowadays?[/QUOTE] How stupid do you have to be to believe that isn't entirely possible, much less believe that it would actually be that hard to do? The government is really transparent living in the US. Whens the last time you saw a bunch of armed military folk walking around your town barking orders at people? What makes you think it'd be hard for an armed mob to form up at a capital building and force them to pretty well surrender the local government. The federal government would just be fucked from the get go, they would have no course of action at all. Police are made up of the civilian population with very weak government ties, they would be on our side in such an event. Reservists/National guard would also support our efforts, as they're just civilians too. The actual active military wouldn't be able to realistically deploy to enough locations to stop such a thing, and in the end top brass would probably be trying to cover their own ass and support the people so that they're in position and ready to defend the nation while we're going through a shift in power. On the smaller scale, our second amendment mostly allows for us to be able to protect ourselves from ourselves, foreign invasion, and to be able to hunt. [editline]04:20PM[/editline] Also, for the magazines: [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/mcca3a.jpg[/IMG]

Wow, I actually know the guy that made the XM8... Lets tell them that it is a clump of plastic!

[QUOTE=Maximo13;19729772]Wow, I actually know the guy that made the XM8... Lets tell them that it is a clump of plastic![/QUOTE] You met Eugene stoner? That is pretty cool

[QUOTE=Maximo13;19729772]Wow, I actually know the guy that made the XM8... Lets tell them that it is a clump of plastic![/QUOTE] It's a clone of the G36 which is a heavily modified copy of the AR18 which is a highly simplified AR15. No one person "made" it.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;19728539]Also, for the magazines: [url]http://i49.tinypic.com/mcca3a.jpg[/url][/QUOTE] Huh, I'm gonna have to look at the mags for my p229R. It's chambered in .40 S&W. I wonder if they are also double labeled.

[QUOTE=GunFox;19735357]Huh, I'm gonna have to look at the mags for my p229R. It's chambered in .40 S&W. I wonder if they are also double labeled.[/QUOTE] If it'll feed 40 it'll feed 357... There's absolutely no doubt, you can even strip one off into a 40 barrel but DO NOT FIRED IT lol.

Hey guys where's the best place to buy a Moist Nugget?

Rented a P220 in .45ACP today at the local shop. Quite an impressive little handgun, impressive enough to make me want one badly. Now if only I had any disposable income at the moment.

[QUOTE=zombiefreak;19737872]Hey guys where's the best place to buy a Moist Nugget?[/QUOTE] Every gunshow has them. You can get them online also

[QUOTE=CubeManv2;19738068]Every gunshow has them. You can get them online also[/QUOTE] Don't waste money on having a Mosin FFL transfered to you. That'll cost more than the gun itself. Wait for Big 5 to put them on sale for 70$ and buy them then.

Anyone know where I can get oldass rifle parts easily? I'm building a Mauser 71/84 from a $10 barreled receiver and so far all I've got are the rear sight assembly and two of the stock bands. I really need a stock mainly, I can't find one that hasn't been cut down to carbine length and isn't rotting/cracked/eaten/infused with shit.

[QUOTE=zombiefreak;19737872]Hey guys where's the best place to buy a Moist Nugget?[/QUOTE] At yer local sportin' goods shoppe. [editline]09:56PM[/editline] /sarcasm [editline]09:56PM[/editline] I'd say online is your best option. Or buy one off someone you know. Either way, clean the shit out of it.

-snip- nevermind lol

[QUOTE=Maximo13;19729772]Wow, I actually know the guy that made the XM8... Lets tell them that it is a clump of plastic![/QUOTE] It's fine. Just not the 100% improvement (which is ridiculous to aim for in the first place) over the M16 that US DoD was looking for. In a recent stress/dust testing, the XM8 actually performed the best out of a test that also included the HK416, FN's SCAR-L and a M4 carbine. The results were as follows: XM8 - 127 stoppages FN SCAR - 226 stoppages HK416 - 233 stoppages M4 Carbine - 882 stoppages. The difference between the XM8 to the FN SCAR and HK416 is negligable however, when you consider that the STANAG magazine the SCAR and 416 utilized is somewhat unrealiable in comparison to the polymer magazines the XM8 was feeding off. People need to get over the whole "lolol it's plastic". The Steyr AUG can be rolled over by an APC and have no structural damage to the receiver. Try the same thing with a M16 and you'll have a dented receiver.

First time mom saw the F2000 she asked the army guy if she could take it in the dishwasher along with her tupperwear. That guy still cringes when he sees us.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;19735706]If it'll feed 40 it'll feed 357... There's absolutely no doubt, you can even strip one off into a 40 barrel but DO NOT FIRED IT lol.[/QUOTE] Yeah I know the .40 mags will fire either, it was the .357's that had this weird lip at the top which would make it impossible. I'm just curious if they have that label. It's in my nightstand and my girlfriend is asleep, so I suppose I'll have to wait another few hours. [editline]03:06AM[/editline] [QUOTE=professional;19738894]It's fine. Just not the 100% improvement (which is ridiculous to aim for in the first place) over the M16 that US DoD was looking for. In a recent stress/dust testing, the XM8 actually performed the best out of a test that also included the HK416, FN's SCAR-L and a M4 carbine. The results were as follows: XM8 - 127 stoppages FN SCAR - 226 stoppages HK416 - 233 stoppages M4 Carbine - 882 stoppages. The difference between the XM8 to the FN SCAR and HK416 is negligable however, when you consider that the STANAG magazine the SCAR and 416 utilized is somewhat unrealiable in comparison to the polymer magazines the XM8 was feeding off. People need to get over the whole "lolol it's plastic". The Steyr AUG can be rolled over by an APC and have no structural damage to the receiver. Try the same thing with a M16 and you'll have a dented receiver.[/QUOTE] Wish the XCR had been included. I also wish they had standardized the magazines. Frankly everyone should be using pmags by now.

[QUOTE=GunFox;19739574] Wish the XCR had been included. I also wish they had standardized the magazines. Frankly everyone should be using pmags by now.[/QUOTE] XCRs have a bad tendency to disassemble themselves over the course of prolonged fire. They're also not quite as accurate as the normal AR15 platform. Nor are they as reliable with shitty quality ammunition, like wolf. Over all, nice concept and it works fine for civilians, but for serious social work it's a no-go.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;19746209][QUOTE=GunFox;19739574] Wish the XCR had been included. I also wish they had standardized the magazines. Frankly everyone should be using pmags by now.[/QUOTE] XCRs have a bad tendency to disassemble themselves over the course of prolonged fire. They're also not quite as accurate as the normal AR15 platform. Nor are they as reliable with shitty quality ammunition, like wolf. Over all, nice concept and it works fine for civilians, but for serious social work it's a no-go.[/QUOTE] What happened to it? Also? I hope that your dreams come true. That's a rather sweeping generalization. Aren't you always frank? Who does "they" refer to? If not that, what? Aren't all no go Over all nice concept and it works fine for civilians but for serious social work it?

[QUOTE=Siminov;19697649]Well that was my 2nd choice, glock 17 was my first. The new ones run ya 650 though, thinking of a used one.[/QUOTE] LMAO, I got my 2d gen glock 22 for $317.

[QUOTE=EurofanBMW;19748165]LMAO, I got my 2d gen glock 22 for $317.[/QUOTE] New or used?