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[QUOTE=evilweazel;19037459][img]http://www.granitegrok.com/pix/uzi.jpg[/img] This is Mr. uzi commonly used by gangt0rz in california to do drive baiz n kill the cryps and to get your props in da hood, nigga. :c00l:[/QUOTE] More like [img]http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/ingram.jpg[/img] People commonly confuse the two. Big difference being one is actually good and accurate to a degree when handled properly, the other being a malfunctioning inaccurate piece of mechanical shit regardless of who uses it. [editline]07:11PM[/editline] Mr.Ghetto is commonly found with the latter.

I thought they'd be found more often with a TEC-9.

[QUOTE=Archy;19021821]I find it really unlikely that anyone in Facepunch's population (read: dorks/preteens) has even seen, let alone fired a gun before. incoming claims of superiority[/QUOTE] True, however, upon visiting a Navy convention(Canada). I held an M4,a Beretta, and a RPG. I don't know what kind of RPG. And my Dad has a Luger, but there's nothing inside anymore :saddowns:

[QUOTE=Umi-hebi;19030714]Then how do you explain [url=http://www.armalite.com/Categories.aspx?Category=8e8e5de6-5022-483e-812b-822e58014822]this[/url][/QUOTE] I heard Armalite as we know it today isn't the same company that invented the AR-15. The original Armalite went under decades ago and the one that currently exists is just another gun manufacturer that bought the rights to the name. [QUOTE=evilweazel;19037459][img]http://www.granitegrok.com/pix/uzi.jpg[/img] This is Mr. uzi commonly used by gangt0rz in california to do drive baiz n kill the cryps and to get your props in da hood, nigga. :c00l:[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Loen;19037928] Correction: [img]http://parrotheadjeff.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/C9_hi-450x424.jpg[/img] Your average welfare king can't afford an Uzi.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Gubbinz96;19041911]More like [img]http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/ingram.jpg[/img] People commonly confuse the two. Big difference being one is actually good and accurate to a degree when handled properly, the other being a malfunctioning inaccurate piece of mechanical shit regardless of who uses it. [editline]07:11PM[/editline] Mr.Ghetto is commonly found with the latter.[/QUOTE] You're all right and wrong at the same time. Criminals tend to use whatever is available. Typically they stick with smaller guns. The guns that caused the largest amount of fatal shootings in a single recorded year were mostly very small and inexpensive pistols such as the Raven Arms .25ACP, the Bryco Jennings and the Lorcin. But crime, by nature, tends to be a lucrative venture. Otherwise people wouldn't do it. So they can often afford the better stuff as well. Again, they just prefer small pistols because they are easy to hide and if the weapon is cheap it is no huge loss if it is lost/seized/stolen etc. Also, since they buy the vast majority of their weapons illegally they have access to the black market where, as a rule, everything is far cheaper than retail prices. You'd be surprised just how cheap a used UZI is. Only a fraction of what it's semi-automatic civilian counterpart costs. This is largely the result of the fact that many of the weapons are stolen or bought from corrupt governments that have too many guns sitting around collecting dust or smuggled out of warzones so cluttered with small arms you can practically walk down the street with a wheelbarrow collecting handfuls of them. Again, at the end of the day they use whatever they can get their hands on. The Mossberg 500 is about as far from a pocket mouse gun as you can get, yet it ranks up there as the 5th largest criminal weapon. Why? Because it's available. And it's a gun. For them if it gets the job done, that is what matters most. Everything else is a bonus. And they mostly use their guns to intimidate. Being the cowards that they are, they seldom expect armed retaliation. So yes, bigger, more powerful guns are used sparingly because they are available, but given the choice they tend to go for the smaller ones.

Needs more pictures of pimped out AK's

Beaches and coves. [media]http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7676/img0245o.jpg[/media] [media]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9306/img0247x.jpg[/media] My two babbys. Top is my Colt 604 that I just finished building today, it's on a Nodak Spud M16A1 lower receiver that unfortunately is alot blacker than I thought it would be, the pic on the site made it look like my upper was closer to the black one than the "XM Gray" lower. Oh well, everything functions nicely and it still looks hot as fuck. Original Colt 604 upper, handguards, pistol grip and stock, everything else besides the lower is DPMS, gonna switch it out later with more USGI parts though. Below that is my old Romanian AKM that I recently got some original Soviet furniture and a rare, (also Soviet) unissued, aluminum waffle magazine for, super sexy.

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;19044609]Beaches and coves. [media]http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7676/img0245o.jpg[/media] [media]http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9306/img0247x.jpg[/media] My two babbys. Top is my Colt 604 that I just finished building today, it's on a Nodak Spud M16A1 lower receiver that unfortunately is alot blacker than I thought it would be, the pic on the site made it look like my upper was closer to the black one than the "XM Gray" lower. Oh well, everything functions nicely and it still looks hot as fuck. Original Colt 604 upper, handguards, pistol grip and stock, everything else besides the lower is DPMS, gonna switch it out later with more USGI parts though. Below that is my old Romanian AKM that I recently got some original Soviet furniture and a rare, (also Soviet) unissued, aluminum waffle magazine for, super sexy.[/QUOTE] Your gun collection still amazes me. I love all the vintage stuff you have.

[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;19044893]Your gun collection still amazes me. I love all the vintage stuff you have.[/QUOTE] Thanks! I need to go out one day and get some better pics of them all, might do that over the weekend.

[QUOTE=Bean-O;19042870]I heard Armalite as we know it today isn't the same company that invented the AR-15. The original Armalite went under decades ago and the one that currently exists is just another gun manufacturer that bought the rights to the name. You're all right and wrong at the same time. Criminals tend to use whatever is available. Typically they stick with smaller guns. The guns that caused the largest amount of fatal shootings in a single recorded year were mostly very small and inexpensive pistols such as the Raven Arms .25ACP, the Bryco Jennings and the Lorcin. But crime, by nature, tends to be a lucrative venture. Otherwise people wouldn't do it. So they can often afford the better stuff as well. Again, they just prefer small pistols because they are easy to hide and if the weapon is cheap it is no huge loss if it is lost/seized/stolen etc. Also, since they buy the vast majority of their weapons illegally they have access to the black market where, as a rule, everything is far cheaper than retail prices. You'd be surprised just how cheap a used UZI is. Only a fraction of what it's semi-automatic civilian counterpart costs. This is largely the result of the fact that many of the weapons are stolen or bought from corrupt governments that have too many guns sitting around collecting dust or smuggled out of warzones so cluttered with small arms you can practically walk down the street with a wheelbarrow collecting handfuls of them. Again, at the end of the day they use whatever they can get their hands on. The Mossberg 500 is about as far from a pocket mouse gun as you can get, yet it ranks up there as the 5th largest criminal weapon. Why? Because it's available. And it's a gun. For them if it gets the job done, that is what matters most. Everything else is a bonus. And they mostly use their guns to intimidate. Being the cowards that they are, they seldom expect armed retaliation. So yes, bigger, more powerful guns are used sparingly because they are available, but given the choice they tend to go for the smaller ones.[/QUOTE] Well so help us god if they find these. [img]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.massively.com/media/2009/03/425sharkgunboom32.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Bean-O;19042870]I heard Armalite as we know it today isn't the same company that invented the AR-15. The original Armalite went under decades ago and the one that currently exists is just another gun manufacturer that bought the rights to the name. You're all right and wrong at the same time. Criminals tend to use whatever is available. Typically they stick with smaller guns. The guns that caused the largest amount of fatal shootings in a single recorded year were mostly very small and inexpensive pistols such as the Raven Arms .25ACP, the Bryco Jennings and the Lorcin. But crime, by nature, tends to be a lucrative venture. Otherwise people wouldn't do it. So they can often afford the better stuff as well. Again, they just prefer small pistols because they are easy to hide and if the weapon is cheap it is no huge loss if it is lost/seized/stolen etc. Also, since they buy the vast majority of their weapons illegally they have access to the black market where, as a rule, everything is far cheaper than retail prices. You'd be surprised just how cheap a used UZI is. Only a fraction of what it's semi-automatic civilian counterpart costs. This is largely the result of the fact that many of the weapons are stolen or bought from corrupt governments that have too many guns sitting around collecting dust or smuggled out of warzones so cluttered with small arms you can practically walk down the street with a wheelbarrow collecting handfuls of them. Again, at the end of the day they use whatever they can get their hands on. The Mossberg 500 is about as far from a pocket mouse gun as you can get, yet it ranks up there as the 5th largest criminal weapon. Why? Because it's available. And it's a gun. For them if it gets the job done, that is what matters most. Everything else is a bonus. And they mostly use their guns to intimidate. Being the cowards that they are, they seldom expect armed retaliation. So yes, bigger, more powerful guns are used sparingly because they are available, but given the choice they tend to go for the smaller ones.[/QUOTE] My friend sells drugs and has a berretta M9. He is a criminal. He is a bad man.

[img]http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/FYO/Y65U/FLROJV68/FYOY65UFLROJV68.SMALL.jpg[/img] i like all guns they are cool

Nice to see your M16A1 is finally done. Kinda wish I could let a few rounds loose with it.

[QUOTE=varj;19045652][img]http://www.instructables.com/files/deriv/FYO/Y65U/FLROJV68/FYOY65UFLROJV68.SMALL.jpg[/img] i like all guns they are cool[/QUOTE] Hurr hurr P90 is teh best lolz

is the deagle as awesome as almost every game portrays it as

[QUOTE=heathendevil;19066657]is the deagle as awesome as almost every game portrays it as[/QUOTE] Nope

is it appropriate to have a scope on a pistol?

[QUOTE=heathendevil;19066979]is it appropriate to have a scope on a pistol?[/QUOTE] Depends. If you're shooting for accuracy, and have the correct calibre, then it is acceptable. However, in a combat situation, no.

[QUOTE=heathendevil;19066979]is it appropriate to have a scope on a pistol?[/QUOTE] I would say no

[QUOTE=FEARME!;19067126]I would say no[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/22Charger/images/4901.jpg[/img] Also, a reminder that there is content on the first page.

[QUOTE=zombiefreak;19067223][img]http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/22Charger/images/4901.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Now that's something I wouldn't mind owning.

[QUOTE=heathendevil;19066657]is the deagle as awesome as almost every game portrays it as[/QUOTE] Depends. As a hunting weapon, it does great. It's accurate and powerful. If you keep it clean, it will be very reliable as well. However, after a few hundred rounds the action fouls up pretty bad, and it's rather difficult to clean properly. It is a great way to lug magnum rounds in a semi-automatic pistol platform and look badass doing it (they look pretty awesome, I admit). I love how everyone used to jizz themselves over the Desert Eagle, and now they're all like, "OMG DEAGLES SOOOOO SHITTY" [editline]11:16PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Gubbinz96;19067833]Now that's something I wouldn't mind owning.[/QUOTE] You can make that. Or build it. Just a few custom parts attached to a Ruger 10/22. [editline]11:18PM[/editline] [QUOTE=heathendevil;19066979]is it appropriate to have a scope on a pistol?[/QUOTE] Depends. Target shooting, yes. Hunting, sometimes. Combat, no. In my experience, scopes on pistols are a pain in the ass. They seem to lose their zero on me after I put a few rounds though it.

[QUOTE=heathendevil;19066979]is it appropriate to have a scope on a pistol?[/QUOTE] Not really. Most pistols have an effective range limited to around 50 meters; Unless your vision is horrible or you're doing competition target shooting it's unnecessary. [QUOTE=zombiefreak;19067223][img]http://www.ruger-firearms.com/products/22Charger/images/4901.jpg[/img] Also, a reminder that there is content on the first page.[/QUOTE] That's a red dot sight. I wouldn't really call that a pistol either, it's a 10/22 rifle with a shortened barrel and no buttstock.

[QUOTE=heathendevil;19066979]is it appropriate to have a scope on a pistol?[/QUOTE] Yes. Reddot for combat/competition. Scope for hunting/silhouette. [img]http://www.tanfoglio.it/upload_dinamici/immaginid/2007/GOLDCUSS.jpg[/img] And if you don't think a reddot is practical for combat on a handgun... [img]http://www.gun-one.com/M&P-with-Fastfire.jpg[/img] It's not much more bulky than iron sights, and it's much faster. Depending on the quality, it can be just as reliable and just as rugged. [media]http://ee.ar15.com/uploadImages/20091107/2059/Uploaded_633931949735477500_File.JPG[/media] [editline]12:40PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Loen;19073924]Not really. Most pistols have an effective range limited to around 50 meters; Unless your vision is horrible or you're doing competition target shooting it's unnecessary. [/QUOTE] Anything bigger than a service round is effective out to 100 or so yards. .454 casull can manage to shoot flat out to 200 yards if you load it right.

[QUOTE=DrMortician;19076747]Anything bigger than a service round is effective out to 100 or so yards. .454 casull can manage to shoot flat out to 200 yards if you load it right.[/QUOTE] Well I was referring to service rounds in specific.

[QUOTE=Loen;19077409]Well I was referring to service rounds in specific.[/QUOTE] 9mm is decent at 100 yards. .357sig is amazing at 100 yards.... .45acp is pretty sad.

When you consider the philosophy under which most modern automatics and their corresponding calibers were developed, being able to hit something beyond 50 yards is a neat bonus but unnecessary. That's what the rifle is for.

[QUOTE=Bean-O;19077748]When you consider the philosophy under which most modern automatics and their corresponding calibers were developed, being able to hit something beyond 50 yards is a neat bonus but unnecessary. That's what the rifle is for.[/QUOTE] Pretty much. Changing the subject, i'm rather curious as to why battle rifles when compared to assault rifles are so neglected and ignored in movies and video games. It seems that most people don't even know what a battle rifle is. I'm still waiting for the day someone tells me the G3 sucks because "it fires da ak bullet and has a 20 round clip!"

[QUOTE=Loen;19079013]Pretty much. Changing the subject, i'm rather curious as to why battle rifles when compared to assault rifles are so neglected and ignored in movies and video games. It seems that most people don't even know what a battle rifle is. I'm still waiting for the day someone tells me the G3 sucks because "it fires da ak bullet and has a 20 round clip!"[/QUOTE] Well how many movies can you name that actually have decent and realistic advisors for weapons, tactics, settings etc? There's a few, but in general, Hollywood picks shit based on what looks cool and sounds cool. HEAT (Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Val Kilmer) is regarded as one of the most realistic movies, they had some great weapon choices based on the situations the characters where in. They used a FN FAL for security on a highway during an initial bank truck robbery, and later during a meet and swap Val Kilmer has a G3-pattern rifle providing overwatch on the meet vehicle.

[QUOTE=professional;19079735]HEAT (Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Val Kilmer) is regarded as one of the most realistic movies, they had some great weapon choices based on the situations the characters where in. They used a FN FAL for security on a highway during an initial bank truck robbery, and later during a meet and swap Val Kilmer has a G3-pattern rifle providing overwatch on the meet vehicle.[/QUOTE] Heat is fucking awesome yes I agree. Did you know that the weapon reports are actual recordings?

[QUOTE=Loen;19079013]Pretty much. Changing the subject, i'm rather curious as to why battle rifles when compared to assault rifles are so neglected and ignored in movies and video games. It seems that most people don't even know what a battle rifle is. I'm still waiting for the day someone tells me the G3 sucks because "it fires da ak bullet and has a 20 round clip!"[/QUOTE] Battle rifles aren't used in games because they aren't the newest, most publicized weapon on the planet. They aren't in the news, and you barely ever see them in the hands of modern infantry. [editline]12:26PM[/editline] [QUOTE=professional;19079735]Heat rant.[/QUOTE] I loved the movie, but ever since I saw Oliver Stone's The Doors, I can't ever look at Val Kilmer the same way again.