Alright Firearms Thread, I have a question for you.
Which type of Mauser do you prefer? An 8mm, 7mm, or 6.5x55mm (Swede).
[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20523065]Alright Firearms Thread, I have a question for you.
Which type of Mauser do you prefer? An 8mm, 7mm, or 6.5x55mm (Swede).[/QUOTE]
Personally I like 8mm.
Never have tried a 6.5 though.
[QUOTE=Hunt3r.j2;20482585]Fun stuff, there's a StG44 replica being made on the market, firing 7.92 kurz. Enjoy feeding that thing.
The Robinson XCR is the best carbine made. No disputes. Long stroke gas system, soft recoil, bullet-proof, no special tools needed to tear down everything to the last part, 3.5 pound two-stage trigger standard. Also, no sproing noise when you fire.[/QUOTE]
7.92 Kurz is actually somewhat cheap, like less than fifty cents a round.
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[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20523065]Alright Firearms Thread, I have a question for you.
Which type of Mauser do you prefer? An 8mm, 7mm, or 6.5x55mm (Swede).[/QUOTE]
The Swedish Mauser is the most accurate and reliable of all of them, so I'd go for that.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;20523584]7.92 Kurz is actually somewhat cheap, like less than fifty cents a round.
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The Swedish Mauser is the most accurate and reliable of all of them, so I'd go for that.[/QUOTE]
I own an 8mm and 7mm, and I've fired a 6.5x55 before, I'm just asking which FP prefers
[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20523705]I own an 8mm and 7mm, and I've fired a 6.5x55 before, I'm just asking which FP prefers[/QUOTE]
I was just saying that's the one I prefer.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;20523584]7.92 Kurz is actually somewhat cheap, like less than fifty cents a round.
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A lot of companies are starting to make the old rounds again. It isn't too difficult since a lot of modern rounds are based off the older (take the 7mm and 9mm luger as an example) and they're producing them in enough quantities to where they are cheap enough to be purchased by the average citizen.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;20524235]A lot of companies are starting to make the old rounds again. It isn't too difficult since a lot of modern rounds are based off the older (take the 7mm and 9mm luger as an example) and they're producing them in enough quantities to where they are cheap enough to be purchased by the average citizen.[/QUOTE]
Prvi Partizan has been making it for years now actually. I don't know of any others.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;20523792]I was just saying that's the one I prefer.[/QUOTE]
Ah, it sounded like you were recommending me to buy one.
[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20524691]Ah, it sounded like you were recommending me to buy one.[/QUOTE]
That's not to say you shouldn't.
Well apparently I am getting much more than I thought for my tax return so aside from getting a Tokarev, I am now looking into getting a nice Black Powder Revolver. Right now I'm looking at This
[U][U][IMG]http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_214730_imageset_01?$main-Medium$[/IMG][/U][/U]
Or this one
[IMG]http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_217167_imageset_01?$main-Medium$[/IMG]
Not going to Lie I might carry it once and a while but I'll usually carry the tok so these are what I am debating. (Also I do know about the leave the hammer cylinder clear and no round in it. As well as the moisture issue. I will use Wads instead of grease when carrying it rather than plinking.
I'm rather short 5'7 and concern about the long barrel is the fact I would like like a child behind the wheel of a big rig with it. But it does look infinitely more sexy than the short barrel.
While the short barrel does look quite rugged and sturdy. Possibly easier to carry but its only about 2" shorter.
If anyone has any advice on this more please do help me make this decision.
[QUOTE=G12-A5;20525175]Well apparently I am getting much more than I thought for my tax return so aside from getting a Tokarev, I am now looking into getting a nice Black Powder Revolver. Right now I'm looking at This
[U][U][IMG]http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_214730_imageset_01?$main-Medium$[/IMG][/U][/U]
Or this one
[IMG]http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_217167_imageset_01?$main-Medium$[/IMG]
Not going to Lie I might carry it once and a while but I'll usually carry the tok so these are what I am debating. (Also I do know about the leave the hammer cylinder clear and no round in it. As well as the moisture issue. I will use Wads instead of grease when carrying it rather than plinking.
I'm rather short 5'7 and concern about the long barrel is the fact I would like like a child behind the wheel of a big rig with it. But it does look infinitely more sexy than the short barrel.
While the short barrel does look quite rugged and sturdy. Possibly easier to carry but its only about 2" shorter.
If anyone has any advice on this more please do help me make this decision.[/QUOTE]
That short barrel looks rather sexy indeed! I've got a friend who has a reproduction of this (the guy with the 1911 in tok) which is a blast to shoot!
[QUOTE=DrMortician;20491080]Hardly.
It's not as accurate as most AR15s, it's heavier, it's more complicated, and it has a tendency to loosen its self up and throw parts off during extended shooting.
The barrel is held on by a screw.[/QUOTE]
I own one. The gun doesn't fail. The barrel doesn't fall off. The rifle shows no signs of being less accurate. Your source is full of shit.
It is heavier (By roughly 3/4ths to one pound), but the extra weight serves to compensate for the piston. End result is less felt recoil.
Added complexity is almost entirely contained to the piston system. Which is there because it increases reliability and the adjustment knob allows you to swap between calibers and ammunition grades without and decrease to reliability.
The rifle is amazing and addresses virtually every failure of the AR-15 platform. The feature list exceeds that of even the SCAR.
[QUOTE=GunFox;20525337]I own one. The gun doesn't fail. The barrel doesn't fall off. The rifle shows no signs of being less accurate. Your source is full of shit.
It is heavier (By roughly 3/4ths to one pound), but the extra weight serves to compensate for the piston. End result is less felt recoil.
Added complexity is almost entirely contained to the piston system. Which is there because it increases reliability and the adjustment knob allows you to swap between calibers and ammunition grades without and decrease to reliability.
The rifle is amazing and addresses virtually every failure of the AR-15 platform. The feature list exceeds that of even the SCAR.[/QUOTE]
The only problem I have with the things is they're ugly as fuck.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;20526467]The only problem I have with the things is they're ugly as fuck.[/QUOTE]
You could always dress it up in a nice pretty pink dress.
There's bound to be something out there that could change the way it looks.
[QUOTE=GunFox;20525337]I own one. The gun doesn't fail. The barrel doesn't fall off. The rifle shows no signs of being less accurate. Your source is full of shit.
It is heavier (By roughly 3/4ths to one pound), but the extra weight serves to compensate for the piston. End result is less felt recoil.
Added complexity is almost entirely contained to the piston system. Which is there because it increases reliability and the adjustment knob allows you to swap between calibers and ammunition grades without and decrease to reliability.
The rifle is amazing and addresses virtually every failure of the AR-15 platform. The feature list exceeds that of even the SCAR.[/QUOTE]
How many rounds do you have down range with it?
[QUOTE=G12-A5;20525175]Well apparently I am getting much more than I thought for my tax return so aside from getting a Tokarev, I am now looking into getting a nice Black Powder Revolver. Right now I'm looking at This
[U][U][IMG]http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_214730_imageset_01?$main-Medium$[/IMG][/U][/U]
Or this one
[IMG]http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_217167_imageset_01?$main-Medium$[/IMG]
Not going to Lie I might carry it once and a while but I'll usually carry the tok so these are what I am debating. (Also I do know about the leave the hammer cylinder clear and no round in it. As well as the moisture issue. I will use Wads instead of grease when carrying it rather than plinking.
I'm rather short 5'7 and concern about the long barrel is the fact I would like like a child behind the wheel of a big rig with it. But it does look infinitely more sexy than the short barrel.
While the short barrel does look quite rugged and sturdy. Possibly easier to carry but its only about 2" shorter.
If anyone has any advice on this more please do help me make this decision.[/QUOTE]
What make are they?
[QUOTE=DrMortician;20529402]How many rounds do you have down range with it?[/QUOTE]
4000-4500 rounds.
[QUOTE=G12-A5;20525175]getting a Tokarev[/QUOTE]
Speaking of this, I just recently acquired a used Romanian TTC for around $175. It's a great pistol, and the ammo is cheap.
I am not ashamed to say I am a god damned bargain hunter when it comes to firearms. Half of my collection is used surplus weapons I bought for less than $275.
[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20546105]Speaking of this, I just recently acquired a used Romanian TTC for around $175. It's a great pistol, and the ammo is cheap.
I am not ashamed to say I am a god damned bargain hunter when it comes to firearms. Half of my collection is used surplus weapons I bought for less than $275.[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with that.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;20546124]Nothing wrong with that.[/QUOTE]
Not at all. You can find some damn good deals around if you look hard enough, too.
[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20546105]Speaking of this, I just recently acquired a used Romanian TTC for around $175. It's a great pistol, and the ammo is cheap.
I am not ashamed to say I am a god damned bargain hunter when it comes to firearms. Half of my collection is used surplus weapons I bought for less than $275.[/QUOTE]
Fuck yea discount collectors.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;20546160]Fuck yea discount collectors.[/QUOTE]
Damn straight! The best part about surplus weapons is the surplus ammo.
[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20546177]Damn straight! The best part about surplus weapons is the surplus ammo.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=59598&dateline=1260665386[/IMG]:hf:[IMG]http://www.facepunch.com/image.php?u=128528&dateline=1264311525[/IMG]
[QUOTE=DrMortician;20491080]Hardly.
It's not as accurate as most AR15s, it's heavier, it's more complicated, and it has a tendency to loosen its self up and throw parts off during extended shooting.
The barrel is held on by a screw.[/QUOTE]
I'll admit it's not as accurate, but all you need is a match barrel. The weigh decreases recoil, the complication is only because it's a piston, but in reality it's piss easy to maintain, and if you loctite or actually tighten them to specs it will never loosen.
The barrel is held on by a BOLT, and a damn enormous one at that.
Seriously, I'll detail the standard field strip process, and this is already the most you will ever have to do to clean everything.
1. Push takedown lever, slip out the bolt carrier. If you want to clean the inside of the receiver, pull out the front pin, which is locked to the receiver, so do not try and separate it from the receiver. Just like an AR-15.
2. Take out the bolt, and take off the gas piston assembly
3. Loosen the barrel bolt until reasonably loose, take off barrel.
That's it. And this will let you clean EVERYTHING. I don't own the XCR, so I'm not exactly sure of the procedure, but there might be a "remove gas block" along the way, however that is integral to the barrel.
[QUOTE=G12-A5;20525175]Well apparently I am getting much more than I thought for my tax return so aside from getting a Tokarev, I am now looking into getting a nice Black Powder Revolver. Right now I'm looking at This
[U][U][IMG]http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_214730_imageset_01?$main-Medium$[/IMG][/U][/U]
Or this one
[IMG]http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_217167_imageset_01?$main-Medium$[/IMG]
Not going to Lie I might carry it once and a while but I'll usually carry the tok so these are what I am debating. (Also I do know about the leave the hammer cylinder clear and no round in it. As well as the moisture issue. I will use Wads instead of grease when carrying it rather than plinking.
I'm rather short 5'7 and concern about the long barrel is the fact I would like like a child behind the wheel of a big rig with it. But it does look infinitely more sexy than the short barrel.
While the short barrel does look quite rugged and sturdy. Possibly easier to carry but its only about 2" shorter.
If anyone has any advice on this more please do help me make this decision.[/QUOTE]
you're a fucking dumbass if you are being serious
get the long barreled one (maybe it will deter you from putting yourself at risk trying to carry it) also get a tokarev from here: [url]http://www.classicarms.us/[/url] $250 and comes with a shitload of ammo
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are you seriously wanting to larp as a cowboy in between carrying a 60 year old piece of soviet milsurp as a self defense gun
how about you buy a kahr or glock or sig like a normal, rational, responsible person
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14 goddamn posts and noone mentions the fact that there is someone that wants to use a cap and ball revolver as a carry piece, for use in self defense. it's probably single action too
come on guys
He's obviously not going to carry a cap and ball revolver more than once or twice. Let him have his fun.
Besides either way it's better than nothing. :v:
That said you could do a lot better in the carry department for not much more.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;20547346]He's obviously not going to carry a cap and ball revolver more than once or twice. Let him have his fun.
Besides either way it's better than nothing. :v:
That said you could do a lot better in the carry department for not much more.[/QUOTE]
it's pretty much larping only in a much dumber way
and carrying a tokarev is also boneheaded; a CZ82 is a much more reasonable option if you REALLY want to use cheap C&R
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;20546803]you're a fucking dumbass if you are being serious
get the long barreled one (maybe it will deter you from putting yourself at risk trying to carry it) also get a tokarev from here: [URL]http://www.classicarms.us/[/URL] $250 and comes with a shitload of ammo
[editline]03:40AM[/editline]
are you seriously wanting to larp as a cowboy in between carrying a 60 year old piece of soviet milsurp as a self defense gun
how about you buy a kahr or glock or sig like a normal, rational, responsible person
[editline]03:48AM[/editline]
14 goddamn posts and noone mentions the fact that there is someone that wants to use a cap and ball revolver as a carry piece, for use in self defense. it's probably single action too
come on guys[/QUOTE]
1. Yes it is single action, and like I stated I would only carry it on very rare occasions or to and from the range. I know about carrying it with the hammer on the empty cylinder.
2. Yes I am looking at getting a tokarev as a carry piece. I see little to no problem with carrying one. Most of the ones your buying in store or online are never issued and usually still in new condition. As well as having a safty installed on them. I would not carry one in chamber because that is asking for trouble.
And insulting someone is not the way to suggest something. In fact it does quite the opposite. Also I don't quite care for the makarov, Just not my flavor.
[QUOTE=G12-A5;20547571]1. Yes it is single action, and like I stated I would only carry it on very rare occasions or to and from the range. I know about carrying it with the hammer on the empty cylinder.
2. Yes I am looking at getting a tokarev as a carry piece. I see little to no problem with carrying one. Most of the ones your buying in store or online are never issued and usually still in new condition. As well as having a safty installed on them. I would not carry one in chamber because that is asking for trouble.
And insulting someone is not the way to suggest something. In fact it does quite the opposite. Also I don't quite care for the makarov, Just not my flavor.[/QUOTE]
you're basically carrying a gun as a piece of jewelry then, unless you aren't going to open carry and for some reason feel inclined to carry a single action cap and ball revolver that nobody else is going to know about for personal reasons/fantasies. sorry but this is just monumentally stupid
do you live in texas, because the only excuse for this would be open carrying it to the semi-annual cowboy club dinner and ball. sorry you are insulted by the reality of what you want to do, maybe you should explain your stupid ideas better if you don't want to be insulted. if you want to open carry and show off at social events well okay that's a bit tacky but whatever; basically don't pretend that you will get into a cowboy action shootout if all you want to use it for is a wardrobe accessory
don't use a tokarev as a carry piece; spend 100$ extra and get a surplus P225/P6. By all reports it's the perfect carry piece (DA/SA, decocker, slim/compact profile) [url]http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/sig-p6-p225-9mm-caliber%2C-semi-auto-sig-sauer-pistol-very-good-condition/products_id/1903[/url]
also, unlike a tokarev, you can install night sights on it and there is a plethora of holster options
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;20547592]you're basically carrying a gun as a piece of jewelry then, unless you aren't going to open carry and for some reason feel inclined to carry a single action cap and ball revolver that nobody else is going to know about for personal reasons/fantasies. sorry but this is just monumentally stupid
do you live in texas, because the only excuse for this would be open carrying it to the semi-annual cowboy club dinner and ball. sorry you are insulted by the reality of what you want to do, maybe you should explain your stupid ideas better if you don't want to be insulted. if you want to open carry and show off at social events well okay that's a bit tacky but whatever; basically don't pretend that you will get into a cowboy action shootout if all you want to use it for is a wardrobe accessory
don't use a tokarev as a carry piece; spend 100$ extra and get a surplus P225/P6. By all reports it's the perfect carry piece (DA/SA, decocker, slim/compact profile) [URL]http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/sig-p6-p225-9mm-caliber%2C-semi-auto-sig-sauer-pistol-very-good-condition/products_id/1903[/URL]
also, unlike a tokarev, you can install night sights on it and there is a plethora of holster options[/QUOTE]
Ok first off, I don't know if you get off on acting highly superior to other people but really you need to calm down. I asked for advice not to be insulted at every sentence I type. And yes I would carry the revolver as a show piece there is nothing wrong with that. No I do not intend to get into any cowboy style shootouts. Infact I wish to never be in a shootout.
And like I said before I like the tokarev for the styling and its fairly slim, Its an accurate pistol and quite reliable. A carry peice is mostly personal preferance. I've been to all the gunshops around in my area and seen many different types of guns. I honestly just like the tokarev the best.
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