[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;20708498]I like how, whether intentionally or unintentionally, the quality of the guns posted progressively got worse[/QUOTE]
The silenced SMLE-in-.45ACP is a great weapon though.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;20708498]I like how, whether intentionally or unintentionally, the quality of the guns posted progressively got worse[/QUOTE]
Huh, that gun has interchangeable barrels and ergonomic grips, what are you talking about.
Oh my god, just started using Romanian 8mm surplus in my Mausers, it is SO much easier on the shoulder than Yugo surplus I was using, and it fires a ton cleaner. It's such a better round in my opinion, even though one is light ball and the other heavy, the Romanian is definitely a better choice for my Mausers. It fires perfectly through my German K98, Yugo M24/47, and Czech VZ-24. It has about the same recoil as some of the light-mid range 7.62x54r rounds, which is quite a bit to say for a round like the 8mm.
[url]http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=A8RS[/url]
compared to
[url]http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/8mm-yugo-fmj-ball-ammo-on-clips%2C-15-round-boxes-/products_id/2449[/url]
[QUOTE=Timebomb757;20708763]The silenced SMLE-in-.45ACP is a great weapon though.[/QUOTE]
be that as it may it can't compare to a high standard
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[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20722806]Oh my god, just started using Romanian 8mm surplus in my Mausers, it is SO much easier on the shoulder than Yugo surplus I was using, and it fires a ton cleaner. It's such a better round in my opinion, even though one is light ball and the other heavy, the Romanian is definitely a better choice for my Mausers. It fires perfectly through my German K98, Yugo M24/47, and Czech VZ-24. It has about the same recoil as some of the light-mid range 7.62x54r rounds, which is quite a bit to say for a round like the 8mm.
[url]http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=A8RS[/url]
compared to
[url]http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/8mm-yugo-fmj-ball-ammo-on-clips%2C-15-round-boxes-/products_id/2449[/url][/QUOTE]
is the Yugo stuff machinegun ammo? They did make their own version of the MG42 after all.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;20725947]be that as it may it can't compare to a high standard
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And as great as the high standards are, the .22lr round is always going to have a hickup sooner or later.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;20660816]I'm shooting .22s btw. Not full sized rifles.
Wait, you live by the Bridge? The Promenade? The one with the theatre?[/QUOTE]
Not quite. I'm over in Manhattan.
Sorry for the late response, my buddy died and.. yeah.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;20725947]is the Yugo stuff machinegun ammo? They did make their own version of the MG42 after all.[/QUOTE]
No? It's more than likely basic 8mm Heavy Ball ammo. They made a few 8mm weapons, so I doubt it's specifically for a machinegun.
[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20728270]No? It's more than likely basic 8mm Heavy Ball ammo. They made a few 8mm weapons, so I doubt it's specifically for a machinegun.[/QUOTE]
I've only ever shot yugo/commercial 8mm
I guess if it was machine gun ammo, it'd probably blow up the gun eventually.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;20734085]I've only ever shot yugo/commercial 8mm
I guess if it was machine gun ammo, it'd probably blow up the gun eventually.[/QUOTE]
You should try that Romanian light ball, a ton easier on the shoulder than Yugo surplus. It's probably pretty close to the lighter commericla loads TBH.
[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;20734106]You should try that Romanian light ball, a ton easier on the shoulder than Yugo surplus. It's probably pretty close to the lighter commericla loads TBH.[/QUOTE]
I hardly ever shoot my K98 anymore though.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;20736103]I hardly ever shoot my K98 anymore though.[/QUOTE]
Ah, being the Surplus freak I am, I shoot my Mausers, Mosins, SKS, etc. more than anything else.
Also, thread is close to the end, Zombie going to be making the next edition?
[QUOTE=mastermaul;20745710][img]http://englishrussia.com/images/chechen_weapons/8.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Cripe that looks like it was made of pot metal, I would never shoot anything like that!
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;20746145]Cripe that looks like it was made of pot metal, I would never shoot anything like that![/QUOTE]
If you were getting shot at and that's all you had you bet you would use it.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;20747005]If you were getting shot at and that's all you had you bet you would use it.[/QUOTE]
As a club, maybe.
I wish I had a nice subtle pistol.
I wouldn't use it. I'd just, you know, not have it loaded and blow my brains off few times a day.
[QUOTE=varj;20747098]I wish I had a nice subtle pistol.
I wouldn't use it. I'd just, you know, not have it loaded and blow my brains off few times a day.[/QUOTE]
Uh, what?
[QUOTE=varj;20747098]I wish I had a nice subtle pistol.
I wouldn't use it. I'd just, you know, not have it loaded and blow my brains off few times a day.[/QUOTE]
You'd kill yourself multiple times a day with an unloaded gun?
What the fuck?
When I get a pistol, I want something I can take apart easily in a few steps to clean, and be able to get ammunition at a fair price.
[QUOTE=Inplabth;20753297]May I kindly ask you to either rephrase that or give a picture or something? I have no idea what the hell you were trying to say.[/QUOTE]
I means to take an unloaded pistol and pull the trigger whilst it is pointed at his head so the hammer falls and goes "click".
[QUOTE=40kplayer;20755619]When I get a pistol, I want something I can take apart easily in a few steps to clean, and be able to get ammunition at a fair price.[/QUOTE]
So, a Makarov?
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;20755697]I means to take an unloaded pistol and pull the trigger whilst it is pointed at his head so the hammer falls and goes "click".[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
It would be fun, just every once in a while. Let it be a.. I don't know, a stress reliever? Much like tobacco, but a gun, imaging yourself literally blowing your brains off.
You are insane, my dear sir.
I need to post picts of my new Miroku .22 Lever action rifle.
[QUOTE=varj;20757410]Exactly.
It would be fun, just every once in a while. Let it be a.. I don't know, a stress reliever? Much like tobacco, but a gun, imaging yourself literally blowing your brains off.[/QUOTE]
That won't end well.
Generally when handling any firearm always assume that it's loaded and never point it at anything you don't want it to destroy.
You could be playing with it like that one day not realizing that contrary to your belief it is loaded and boom, a new coat of red paint on the wall behind you.
[QUOTE=40kplayer;20755619]When I get a pistol, I want something I can take apart easily in a few steps to clean, and be able to get ammunition at a fair price.[/QUOTE]
That's the rule rather than the exception.
Generally so long as you stick with popular calibers there will be tons of sources of cheap ammunition. 9x19mm is the most common generally. Other calibers such as .38 Special, .380 ACP, .32 ACP, .40 S&W aren't that rare. .45 ACP while popular can get a bit expensive because it's in such high demand. Revolvers can typically fire multiple calibers. Any .357 Magnum can fire cheaper .38 Special ammo, .44 Magnums can fire .44 Special (although you don't see it very often), A Nagant revolver can fire 7.62x38mmR or .32 H&R Magnum or .32 S&W long or .32 S&W. Com bloc calibers such as 9x18mm and 7.62x25mm may require a little searching around but they're always dirt cheap.
[QUOTE=Bean-O;20760270]That won't end well.
Generally when handling any firearm always assume that it's loaded and never point it at anything you don't want it to destroy.
You could be playing with it like that one day not realizing that contrary to your belief it is loaded and boom, a new coat of red paint on the wall behind you.
That's the rule rather than the exception.
Generally so long as you stick with popular calibers there will be tons of sources of cheap ammunition. 9x19mm is the most common generally. Other calibers such as .38 Special, .380 ACP, .32 ACP, .40 S&W aren't that rare. .45 ACP while popular can get a bit expensive because it's in such high demand. Revolvers can typically fire multiple calibers. Any .357 Magnum can fire cheaper .38 Special ammo, .44 Magnums can fire .44 Special (although you don't see it very often), A Nagant revolver can fire 7.62x38mmR or .32 H&R Magnum or .32 S&W long or .32 S&W. Com bloc calibers such as 9x18mm and 7.62x25mm may require a little searching around but they're always dirt cheap.[/QUOTE]
.40 S&W and 44 Magnum are the most common and easy to find pistol/revolver calibers out here :v:
All the others including 9mm are ungodly hard to find.
I avoid Nagant revolvers. They're one of those "You get what you pay for" kind of deals and I personally think my money would be better put towards something higher up.
On a another note..
Take a gander at this Bean-O
[url]http://www.impactguns.com/store/736676057597.html[/url]
If you want to find ammo easily, stick to what your local police use. It'll always be well stocked.
Avoid things like .380 and .25acp. Also, avoid NATO calibers.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;20760786].40 S&W and 44 Magnum are the most common and easy to find pistol/revolver calibers out here :v:
All the others including 9mm are ungodly hard to find.
I avoid Nagant revolvers. They're one of those "You get what you pay for" kind of deals and I personally think my money would be better put towards something higher up.
On a another note..
Take a gander at this Bean-O
[URL]http://www.impactguns.com/store/736676057597.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
I was using the Nagant as an example of a revolver shooting multiple calibers. Didn't know that those new-fangled .327s could do that as well.
Also 9x19mm hard to find? .44 Mag everywhere? I've never heard of that happening before. The ammo scare has made some weird combination of shortages.
Here in CA 9x19 is pretty abundant at this point but it's all subject to change. I remember at one point .380 ACP couldn't be found anywhere in the country.
[QUOTE=DrMortician;20765596]If you want to find ammo easily, stick to what your local police use. It'll always be well stocked.
Avoid things like .380 and .25acp. Also, avoid NATO calibers.[/QUOTE]
Which brings us to an interesting dynamic of ammo availability. Popular calibers vs. wildcat.
With NATO pattern ammo you have lots of sources to begin with. There's military surplus from many countries and every commercial brand makes the popular stuff. But there are more people who own guns in those calibers so they tend to fly off the shelf. (I remember at one time .22LR was impossible to find.)
Availability of wildcat ammo is a little less volatile. There are only a handful of people who have guns that fire them but only a couple manufacturers. Therefore the caliber is somewhat more immune to gun panics but there's less on the shelf to begin with. Sometimes big retailers like Wal Mart or Big 5 don't carry them at all.
At the end of the day I'd stick with the more popular calibers. But that's just me. If a gun store is out of 9x19mm or 5.56mm one day they'll typically have more within the week. They also tend to be cheaper unless you like handloading.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;18978484][IMG]http://guns.wicked96ss.com/kimber_eclipse/thumbs_d/mi_eclipse_3-3_jpg.jpg[/IMG]
Hello everyone, this is the biggest firearm thread that wouldn't be considered a megabump. Included in the OP is delicious content about firearms, without the political spin of the left or right.
[B]WHAT IS A FIREARM?[/B]
A firearm is a device that shoots projectiles at a high velocity with a controlled explosion. Gun may be a commonly used term, but gun is a generalization of cannons, artillery pieces, and autocannons.
[B]WHAT IS A FIREARM USED FOR?[/B]
Firearms are used for three main things: 1. Killing 2. Hunting 3. Sporting (Not in order of usage)
[B]HOW DOES A FIREARM WORK?[/B]
Well, there are many different ways firearms work. Have three main things, the action, the cartridge, [B]MOST[/B] modern firearms use a cartridge which contains the propellant, a bullet, and the primer. The propellant is usually gunpowder, made up of sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate.
The bullet is the actual projectile itself, usually made out of lead, with a gilding metal jacket.
Also part of the gun is the action. The action is how the gun loads the cartridge into the chamber, and repeats.
There are two types of actions, automatic and manual
Manual actions:
Automatic Actions:
The parts of a rifle are this:
The stock
[IMG]http://www.fishingwithrusty.com/images/gun_stock.jpg[/IMG]
The receiver
[IMG]http://www.tokyo-model.com.hk/ecshop/images/200906/1243825986900313389.jpg[/IMG]
The barrel
[IMG]http://www.briley.com/ProductImages/pistolaccessories/pda900.jpg[/IMG]
I assume most of you know what the stock and the barrel is, so I will only explain the receiver.
Pretty much the receiver is where the the action happens. It is where the cartridge casing is ejected, where the bullet is fired, and where the cartridge is loaded into the chamber. To go into further detail, read this:
With MOST pistols, remove the part about the stock.
[B]Clip, magazine, what's the difference?[/B]
Well, pretty much a magazine stores bullets, and the clip holds bullets to go into the magazine (with the exception of the en bloc). To go into further detail, read here:
[IMG]http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ClipMagazineLesson.jpg[/IMG]
[B]I have heard the term "Battle Rifle" and "Assault Rifle". What's the difference?[/B]
Well, pretty much a the difference is a bigger caliber. The battle rifle is a select-fire rifle that uses a high powered round like the .30-06 or the .308. The assault rifle, on the other hand, uses an intermediate round like the 5.56x45mm NATO or the 7.62x39mm AK round.
Of course, the quote:
Will update with more fresh content when I think of some. I will be checking the comments daily for more suggestions on how to make the OP better.
[B]How are Calibers measured?[/B]
Well first off America uses inches to measure their calibers while Europe uses the scientific metric system.
Okay so the caliber measured by the length of the bullet and diameter of the base.
For example, a 9mm Parabellum bullet would be written as 9x19mm. 9 meaning the diameter base, and the 19 meaning the length of the bullet.
Here's two of Bean-O's fabulous threads.
[URL]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=763880[/URL] - Fantastic Firearms
[URL]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=649373[/URL] - Weaboo Weaponry[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I didn't quite get that, can you say it again?
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