Steam banned me for giving them money. - General

[QUOTE=Armotekma;20966599]i don't see what's so important about needing your steam account, by the looks of it you have mostly non-steam games that you can launch from the common folder[/QUOTE] So I should just be fine with it and let them keep it disabled?

[QUOTE=Linelor;20966628]So I should just be fine with it and let them keep it disabled?[/QUOTE] you contacted them, they aren't going to keep it disabled, if you aren't playing MW2, source games, ect then you can be fine..

[QUOTE=Linelor;20966628]So I should just be fine with it and let them keep it disabled?[/QUOTE]No...contact them and tell them to enable your account.

[QUOTE=Benji;20966621]Just because you gifted a few people low cost games doesn't mean you should have your account suspended. I could understand if he's had problems in the past with the account (hacked or something and had to contact Steam to get the account returned to him or something like that), but I'm guessing Linelor's account is in good standing and hasn't had any problems up until this point with it.[/QUOTE] The system doesn't take into account how much the games cost. It looks at the fact that you just bought 20+ games and assumes you've stolen the money used to purchase them, which is perfectly reasonable - Valve expects its users to be intelligent enough to send in a support ticket and they've stated before that if you can't figure out to go to Steam support for support then they aren't going to give your account back. It's not an AI, it's a block of code that executes the same mundane task over and over. It's not smart enough to think "Oh hey these games are cheap this guy probably didn't steal them" and Valve would probably rather put more time into making its games and play it safe than give thieves more chances to get away with shit.

well you were buying games in America for 10-15 dollars cheaper (due to the currency different) and then giving them to brits for the American price, you were basically skipping the conversion of US to brit dollar, and the tax. technically for ever one of those purchase you cheated 5 dollars.

[QUOTE=ScoutKing;20966671]well you were buying games in America for 10-15 dollars cheaper (due to the currency different) and then giving them to brits for the American price, you were basically skipping the conversion of US to brit dollar, and the tax. technically for ever one of those purchase you cheated 5 dollars.[/QUOTE] he didn't cheat 5$ because that's his price and he decided to gift it, if the person wasn't going to buy the game in the first place no money would've been spent

[QUOTE=Erp;20966653]No...contact them and tell them to enable your account.[/QUOTE] I have, the point being is that even after I have explained everything and more than proven I'm the owner they're still asking questions and being generally slow and stupid. If you buy a $50 game there's no problem, but if you spend $50 another way they freak the fuck out.

[QUOTE=Linelor;20966699]I have, the point being is that even after I have explained everything and more than proven I'm the owner they're still asking questions and being generally slow and stupid. If you buy a $50 game there's no problem, but if you spend $50 another way they freak the fuck out.[/QUOTE]Steam isn't very fast, but just wait. Proven that it wasn't fraudulent, do what you have to, and they'll enable your account.

[QUOTE=Metanoia;20966506]EQ is like $2.50 I fully understand the point of the system, but gifting a bunch of people a really cheap game actually shouldn't seem so unusual. If it were a bunch of $50 gifts, then that would be a little different[/QUOTE] Obviously it doesn't care to differentiate, why would it?

[QUOTE=Armotekma;20966697]he didn't cheat 5$ because that's his price and he decided to gift it, if the person wasn't going to buy the game in the first place no money would've been spent[/QUOTE] he bought games for a cheaper price for someone in a different country because different countrys charge differently. he cheated people, even if he did give them money some people still got games for a few dollars extra. maybe he didn't get banned for this, and it is wrong steam banned him if they did for this.

[QUOTE=Linelor;20966699]I have, the point being is that even after I have explained everything and more than proven I'm the owner they're still asking questions and being generally slow and stupid. If you buy a $50 game there's no problem, but if you spend $50 another way they freak the fuck out.[/QUOTE] you must understand there's other people with the same problem awaiting their accounts to get reenabled too

Jeez, the game is cheap, your account shouldn't be disabled. Dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[QUOTE=Linelor;20966699]I have, the point being is that even after I have explained everything and more than proven I'm the owner they're still asking questions and being generally slow and stupid. If you buy a $50 game there's no problem, but if you spend $50 another way they freak the fuck out.[/QUOTE] Guess what? Valve has to deal with hundreds of people in your boat every day, and a large amount of them probably stole their shit or the system wouldn't trip - get over it and work with them if you want your account back. It's their policy and you agreed to it when you signed up for your account. If you don't like it, then don't use Steam.

It isn't exactly wrong that he was banned, at least Steam cares to get suspicious and temporarily disable your account if you buy a large amount of games at once. [editline]06:52PM[/editline] [QUOTE=NateDude;20966732]Jeez, the game is cheap, your account shouldn't be disabled. Dumbest thing I've ever heard.[/QUOTE] He bought 20 of them, that's suspicious as fuck calm down. [editline]06:53PM[/editline] Imagine if they DIDN'T have this, someone could just buy $1,000+ of games without being stopped.

[QUOTE=Armotekma;20966731]you must understand there's other people with the same problem awaiting their accounts to get reenabled too[/QUOTE] No, you don't really get it. The representative responded and everything and I have proven I own the account and that it wasn't fraudulent, and even why I did it. And they're still asking questions. I didn't buy them all rapidly anyway. I bought them over the course of a week or so. When I first did it, the auto-block did kick in and stop it for a couple hours, and I even contacted them then and explained what I was doing and they fixed it.

[QUOTE=ScoutKing;20966727]he bought games for a cheaper price for someone in a different country because different countrys charge differently. he cheated people, even if he did give them money some people still got games for a few dollars extra. maybe he didn't get banned for this, and it is wrong steam banned him if they did for this.[/QUOTE] boo hoo someone bought a game for someone else for 5$ cheaper

[QUOTE=kellybear;20966758]Guess what? Valve has to deal with hundreds of people in your boat every day, and a large amount of them probably stole their shit or the system wouldn't trip - get over it and work with them if you want your account back. It's their policy and you agreed to it when you signed up for your account. If you don't like it, then don't use Steam.[/QUOTE] It's pretty much a "for the greater good" type of situation

Steam doesn't understand the concept of generosity :downs:

[QUOTE=Linelor;20966801]No, you don't really get it. The representative responded and everything and I have proven I own the account and that it wasn't fraudulent, and even why I did it. And they're still asking questions. I didn't buy them all rapidly anyway. I bought them over the course of a week or so.[/QUOTE] 20 games is a lot of fucking games, and the system doesn't differentiate price. [editline]06:56PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Jaffar;20966841]Steam doesn't understand the concept of generosity :downs:[/QUOTE] You don't understand the concept of credit card theft :downs:

[QUOTE=kellybear;20966758]Guess what? Valve has to deal with hundreds of people in your boat every day, and a large amount of them probably stole their shit or the system wouldn't trip - get over it and work with them if you want your account back. It's their policy and you agreed to it when you signed up for your account. If you don't like it, then don't use Steam.[/QUOTE] I actually read through the entire agreement and code of conduct last night and there's nothing about large numbers of transactions allowing them to disable your account without notifying you.

[QUOTE=Linelor;20966864]I actually read through the entire agreement and code of conduct last night and there's nothing about large numbers of transactions allowing them to disable your account without notifying you.[/QUOTE]To be perfectly honest, Steam can do whatever the fuck they want with your account. It's technically theirs.

[QUOTE=Erp;20966893]To be perfectly honest, Steam can do whatever the fuck they want with your account. It's technically theirs.[/QUOTE] the point isn't that they can do whatever the fuck they want the question is why this would even occur in the first place when no rules were broken or anything (according to Linelor) even if they have the power to do whatever the hell they want, they should of phoned or sent an email, what kind of shit support is this? Although this is kind of a rare care, Steam doing something as stupid as this. So it's not like I would hold it against them. Well yeah I guess credit card theft is a good reason, and if that's why they potentially did it, well that's not so bad I guess.

[QUOTE=Linelor;20966864]I actually read through the entire agreement and code of conduct last night and there's nothing about large numbers of transactions allowing them to disable your account without notifying you.[/QUOTE] There's probably a bit where they reserve the right to disable your account for any reason or something like that, though.

[QUOTE=Linelor;20966864]I actually read through the entire agreement and code of conduct last night and there's nothing about large numbers of transactions allowing them to disable your account without notifying you.[/QUOTE] I'm fairly certain something in there states that they can make on the spot addendums to the code of conduct whenever they please.

[QUOTE=lum1naire;20966914]the point isn't that they can do whatever the fuck they want the question is why this would even occur in the first place when no rules were broken or anything (according to Linelor) even if they have the power to do whatever the hell they want, they should of phoned or sent an email, what kind of shit support is this? Although this is kind of a rare care, Steam doing something as stupid as this. So it's not like I would hold it against them[/QUOTE] Stop being dumb, they wanted to stop the account from blowing more of the credit card's money, giving a warning would waste more time.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;20966941]Stop being dumb, they wanted to stop the account from blowing more of the credit card's money, giving a warning would waste more time.[/QUOTE] no shit idiot I edited that in afterwards

Maybe if you steel money from them they'll re activate your account.

[QUOTE=Benji;20966915]There's probably a bit where they reserve the right to disable your account for any reason or something like that, though.[/QUOTE] A. Payment by Credit Card. When you provide credit card information to Valve, you represent to Valve that you are the authorized user of the credit card that is used to pay for Merchandise or Subscription or other fees and authorize Valve to charge your credit card for any Merchandise or Subscription or other fees incurred by you. For recurring monthly Subscriptions, each month that you use such Subscription(s), you agree and reaffirm that Valve is authorized to charge your credit card for the Subscription fee. You agree to notify Valve promptly of any changes to your credit card account number, its expiration date and/or your billing address, and you agree to notify Valve promptly if your credit card expires or is canceled for any reason. B. Charges to Your Credit Card. ALL STEAM FEES ARE PAYABLE IN ADVANCE AND ARE NOT REFUNDABLE IN WHOLE OR IN PART. Valve reserves the right to change our fees or billing methods at any time and Valve will provide notice of any such change at least thirty (30) days advance. All changes will be posted as amendments to this Agreement or in the Rules of Use and you are responsible for reviewing the billing section of Steam to obtain timely notice of such changes. Your non-cancellation of your Account or an affected Subscription thirty (30) days after posting of the changes on Steam means that you accept such changes. If any change is unacceptable to you, you may cancel your Account or a particular Subscription at any time as described below, but Valve will not refund any fees that may have accrued to your Account before cancellation of your Account or Subscription, and Valve will not prorate fees for any cancellation. If your use of Steam is subject to any type of use or sales tax, then Valve may also charge you for any such taxes, in addition to the Subscription or other fees published in the Rules of Use. The European Union VAT (�VAT�) tax amounts collected by Valve reflect VAT due on the value of any Steam Software or Subscription as well as import VAT collected which is to be paid to the tax authorities for the importation of Merchandise. As the Account holder, you are responsible for all charges incurred, including applicable taxes, and all purchases made by you or anyone that uses your Account, including your family or friends. Information on how to cancel your Account or a particular Subscription can be found at [url]http://www.steampowered.com/[/url]. Valve reserves the right to collect fees, surcharges or costs incurred before you cancel your Account or a particular Subscription. In the event that your Account or a particular subscription is terminated or canceled, no refund, including any Subscription fees, will be granted. Any delinquent or unpaid Accounts must be settled before Valve will allow you to register again.

[QUOTE=Linelor;20967019]A. Payment by Credit Card. :words:[/QUOTE] He's talking about anywhere in the agreement they reserve the right to disable your account for any reason they see fit.

[QUOTE=lum1naire;20966972]no shit idiot I edited that in afterwards[/QUOTE] How am I an idiot, I responded to your post that had nothing to do with "credit theft stopping is ok"