[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;43324539]Are there any examples of a woman winning in a situation like this?
I mean marines are supposed to be badass compared to the average soldier anyway, right? Are there any examples of a woman beating an equally trained male opponent in a fist fight at all?[/QUOTE]
My sister and I took TaeKwonDo lessons starting at the same time, and she turned out to be a really good fighter. So much so, that when it came to sparring, we needed 3 people to fight her at once, me included. She started sparring black belts long before she even became a junior black belt. Your sexist question is stupidly out of place.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43325363]If they were both civilians then sure, but these two are soldiers[/QUOTE]
Why is it any different? Refusing to get rid of male chivalry and giving women special treatment is the problem with feminism. These things are still sexist and in a way keep women down.
[QUOTE=D-Roy;43325570]My sister and I took TaeKwonDo lessons starting at the same time, and she turned out to be a really good fighter. So much so, that when it came to sparring, we needed 3 people to fight her at once, me included. She started sparring black belts long before she even became a junior black belt. Your sexist question is stupidly out of place.[/QUOTE]
Fighting ability cannot be broken down into gender and build. It takes a certain mindset as well. You need aggression, good reaction time, and, most importantly, a willingness to practice. Everything involved in fighting rests on practice.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;43325811]Fighting ability cannot be broken down into gender and build. It takes a certain mindset as well. You need aggression, good reaction time, and, most importantly, a willingness to practice. Everything involved in fighting rests on practice.[/QUOTE]
It's not specifically aggression you need, but controlled aggression, you lose as soon as you don't have a clear mind.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;43325811]Fighting ability cannot be broken down into gender and build. It takes a certain mindset as well. You need aggression, good reaction time, and, most importantly, a willingness to practice. Everything involved in fighting rests on practice.[/QUOTE]
Oh and endurance and strength, don't forget that!
[editline]27th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=D-Roy;43325570]My sister and I took TaeKwonDo lessons starting at the same time, and she turned out to be a really good fighter. So much so, that when it came to sparring, we needed 3 people to fight her at once, me included. She started sparring black belts long before she even became a junior black belt. Your sexist question is stupidly out of place.[/QUOTE]
What does this have to do with anything? Your sister is an outlier, unless you wish to claim that most women who take up tae-kwon-do will do better than most people, which is obviously not true and is impossible. My point is that your sister's case is an exception, not the rule.
oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trying to make a shit storm" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
what
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
thread's over guys everyone go home
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43325715]Why is it any different? Refusing to get rid of male chivalry and giving women special treatment is the problem with feminism. These things are still sexist and in a way keep women down.[/QUOTE]
Sure. But most girls I know like chivalry and I trust them more than Facepunch's Social Justice Enforcement Brigade, sorry
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
This literally did not happen anywhere in the thread
Social Justice Enforcement Brigade sounds much cooler than Sanius Squad
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;43326152]Social Justice Enforcement Brigade sounds much cooler than Sanius Squad[/QUOTE]
A brigade is a large force though, Sanius Squad makes me think of a commando unit.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;43326181]A brigade is a large force though, Sanius Squad makes me think of a commando unit.[/QUOTE]
Our power is growing
First it was an insurgency, now we're taking the war to you
[editline]27th December 2013[/editline]
Also Sanius was a dick so I'm happy to not be associated with him
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
do you really think that's what misogynists think?
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
Not really, not many (if anyone) implied they enjoyed watching her fail. It was just way too unbalanced of a fight, and no one comprehends why either contender would engage in such a trivial battle. The only way she could have conquered this man is by skill (which she did not have), in order to combat his muscle. Mind you, if she had managed to do so, she would be looked upon in a whole new light.
[QUOTE=D-Roy;43325570]My sister and I took TaeKwonDo lessons starting at the same time, and she turned out to be a really good fighter. So much so, that when it came to sparring, we needed 3 people to fight her at once, me included. She started sparring black belts long before she even became a junior black belt. Your sexist question is stupidly out of place.[/QUOTE]
So did this fight consist of the 3 of you dancing around taking turns doing fabulously flashy kicks
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;43326471]So did this fight consist of the 3 of you dancing around taking turns doing fabulously flashy kicks[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the 80s action music
[editline]27th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
I hope to God you're in this thread to stay, you'll make it [I]so interesting and productive.[/I]
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
Could you elaborate please? I'm genuinely interested in your thought-process. For entertainment purposes but still.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43325715]Refusing to get rid of male chivalry and giving women special treatment is the problem with feminism.[/QUOTE]
I am 99.9% sure that is not at all part of any feminist doctrine, [I]anywhere[/I]. Feel free to correct me with actual evidence to support your wild claims.
"Chivalric" attitudes are a combined cultural stigma, not a doctrine.
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
oh look
another user being dumb as hell
[QUOTE=D-Roy;43325570]My sister and I took TaeKwonDo lessons starting at the same time, and she turned out to be a really good fighter. So much so, that when it came to sparring, we needed 3 people to fight her at once, me included. She started sparring black belts long before she even became a junior black belt. Your sexist question is stupidly out of place.[/QUOTE]
How the fuck is that question sexist? I have literally never seen a woman beat an equally trained man in a fight. Apparently you have, which is cool. If you have some sort of video documentation I could watch so that in the future I can say that I have seen a woman beat an equally trained man in a fight, that would be nice.
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
I'm feeling embarrassed just reading this. How can someone post something like this and think it's a good idea.
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;43327876]I'm feeling embarrassed just reading this. How can someone post something like this and think it's a good idea.[/QUOTE]
Stirrin' some shit boy. And it's working
[QUOTE=gudman;43324617]Um, if she's a regular soldier, why's she fighting a marine. If that's the same as for Russian regular soldier to fight a airmobile trooper (VDV), it's bloody unfair.
And she's a bad fighter too.[/QUOTE]
There are different types of soldiers, just like there are different types of marines. You can guarantee that not every guy in the army is your standard fighter
but yeah its a girl who's probably a pogue fighting a marine so there's that
[QUOTE=Judas;43326045]oh look another thread on facepunch full of misogynists thinly veiling the fact they enjoy seeing women get hurt and claiming men are the superior gender
business as usual[/QUOTE]
*everyone looks over and mutters in the group huddled together, then everyone begins to walk away*
[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;43324788]Even if they had equal training she would have lost. Remember that transwoman who joined the female MMA fighting and had no problems winning?
But I guess people will just dismiss this as ~biotruths~ even if male and female bodies are clearly different.[/QUOTE]
she won 3 fights then got knocked out?
[editline]28th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;43325811]Fighting ability cannot be broken down into gender and build. It takes a certain mindset as well. You need aggression, good reaction time, and, most importantly, a willingness to practice. Everything involved in fighting rests on practice.[/QUOTE]
yeah honestly, it's down to the individual
[editline]28th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;43326889]How the fuck is that question sexist? I have literally never seen a woman beat an equally trained man in a fight. Apparently you have, which is cool. If you have some sort of video documentation I could watch so that in the future I can say that I have seen a woman beat an equally trained man in a fight, that would be nice.[/QUOTE]
'equally trained' is such a stupid thing to say. what do you mean equally trained? how do you know they're equally trained? as people have been pointing out here, this is a marine vs regular army. the whole 'well if you got 1 man and 1 woman and they were equally trained the man would win cause men are stronger' is such a stupid statement. what if it was a weaker male? what if it was a stronger female? what if the man just had terrible hand eye coordination no matter how much he trained?
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43328567]'equally trained' is such a stupid thing to say. what do you mean equally trained? how do you know they're equally trained? as people have been pointing out here, this is a marine vs regular army. the whole 'well if you got 1 man and 1 woman and they were equally trained the man would win cause men are stronger' is such a stupid statement. what if it was a weaker male? what if it was a stronger female? what if the man just had terrible hand eye coordination no matter how much he trained?[/QUOTE]
Oh jeez guys, we better call the professional fighting circuit. Apparently there's no way to match people up by skill, or even measure if they're competent before fighting. And for fuck's sake, I specifically mentioned that from what I knew marines were just generally more competent fighters than regular army members. I wasn't commenting on the video specifically.
And what the fuck is the rest of this tripe? I never said anything about who [I]should[/I] win, or who's stronger than who, or whatever other biotruths nonsense you decided to read into what I wrote. All I'm saying, literally the only thing that I am implying or communicating, is that I have not seen a fight between two peers of opposing gender in which the woman won. I just think that would be an interesting fight to see considering that there's recently been a meager amount of attention paid to the physical capabilities of men and women. But apparently I have to specifically write in what I'm not implying if I want to not be purporting men as the greater sex.
i was just pointing out that the 'equally trained' thing is silly to say because i mean, most fighters you'd say are equally trained, but what makes the anderson silvas or the ronda rouseys different? i'm not trying to bite your head of or anything and i guess alot of what i was saying didn't need to seem as if it was aimed at you
[editline]28th December 2013[/editline]
i guess what i was saying would make more sense being aimed at suddenimpact
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;43326611]I am 99.9% sure that is not at all part of any feminist doctrine, [I]anywhere[/I]. Feel free to correct me with actual evidence to support your wild claims.
"Chivalric" attitudes are a combined cultural stigma, not a doctrine.[/QUOTE]
I generally go about it as, if I like someone I'll do things for them. Male or female. If this woman is a dumb cunt, I'm not about to help her in any way. If there's a person near or rushing to go indoors, I'll hold the door; a man or woman who is having issues with their heavy luggage or groceries, if I'm not in a hurry or busy, I go over and help; etc.
Though, this could just be because I am Canadian...
I remember some people in the US would act so enthused when I'd hold a door or do some other minor task for them.
[editline]27th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=itisjuly;43328292]Stirrin' some shit boy. And it's working[/QUOTE]
Could just be that any discussion that could possibly happen on this topic has already been said, and now they're just picking at replies. The one in question being the most outstanding.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;43329462]Oh jeez guys, we better call the professional fighting circuit. Apparently there's no way to match people up by skill, or even measure if they're competent before fighting. And for fuck's sake, I specifically mentioned that from what I knew marines were just generally more competent fighters than regular army members. I wasn't commenting on the video specifically.
[/QUOTE]
probably because there's tons of factors during training, like personal motivation, time spent, condition before training etc) that play into the process so there's no real way to say 'equally trained'
'equally skilled', maybe, as performance is directly measurable - but obviously if a side loses [i]every time[/i] then clearly they must not be equally skilled
[QUOTE=SuddenImpact;43324788]But I guess people will just dismiss this as ~biotruths~ even if male and female bodies are clearly different.[/QUOTE]
"biotruths" ARE something to be dismissed because they are blanket statements that can not apply in the real world. there are far more differences AMONG the sexes rather than BETWEEN them. any variance between male and female bodies is far outweighed by the variances between men and other men, or women and other women.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43330541]"biotruths" ARE something to be dismissed because they are blanket statements that can not apply in the real world. there are far more differences AMONG the sexes rather than BETWEEN them. any variance between male and female bodies is far outweighed by the variances between men and other men, or women and other women.[/QUOTE]
yeah this, like, if you 'equally trained' me to the point of ronda rousey i'm fairly sure she would still whup my ass and the same would go for virtually anyone
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