Today I learned people on Facepunch know nothing about dogs.
[QUOTE=Darkebrz;31594505]Today I learned people on Facepunch know nothing about dogs.[/QUOTE]
Then enlighten us, kind sir.
you see dragons don't have this problem
because they are dragons
[QUOTE=Levithan;31594792]you see dragons don't have this problem
because they are dragons[/QUOTE]
also because they are not restricted to the ground
snip lol
Why is this a problem? You run past them and ignore them, you act like every untamed dog brings you to a grinding halt. I see how it would be a problem if they did bring you to that point, as you would want consistency in your run, I don't think that is the case.
I used to get chased by dogs all the time then I stopped going out.
[QUOTE=Darkebrz;31594505]Today I learned people on Facepunch know nothing about dogs.[/QUOTE]
Thats what I've been learning too, people treat dogs like humans and let them get away with shit because it's "cute" which just lets the dog know that it can do whatever the hell it wants with no consequences.
Was walking with my girlfriend in the dark by the beach one night. This huge black dog came out of nowhere barking and trying to bite her, it got so close I had to kick it to keep it from attacking her.
The owner couldn't apologise enough, and I felt bad for having to kick it as a last resort. :/
Op I love you. No homo.
my dog is trained to walk perfectly without a leash, border collie mix.
She responds to me wistling, snapping, pointing and clapping at different times and such to follow commands.
Snap and point downward and she comes right to my side and sits down.
If she's excited I clap and point down.
Wistling is to follow, snap after wistle is take point.
etc... she's an amazing dog and I've had the animal control guys called on me for not having a leash, my ability to command my dog got me out of a lot of tickets.
You shouldn't display fear when you go up against an aggressive dog, [B]however[/B] the worst idea you can have is to make yourself appear more threatening. Poorly trained dogs will perceive a lot of unfamiliar situations as threatening, and by stomping, making loud noises and/or inflicting any harm on the dog just confirms to the dog that you're a threat.
Inflicting physical harm on a dog isn't a smart solution. Legal issues aside, a large/medium dog isn't easy to knock out unless you get lucky or are quite skilled. They are usually often agile and strong, and hurting them would only make them more aggressive.
And unless you're a massive pussy there'd be no reason to harm a small dog, gently pushing them aside with your leg and asking the owner to take care of it would suffice.
My dog is quite well trained. She never gets overzealous with strangers. She does however very much like to greet pretty much everyone we meet(sniffing/licking, no jumping), but she's easily averted with a gentle tug on the leash or any kind of sound. And if the person looks uncomfortable with her approaching I'll reel her in and keep her on a short leash until we've passed.
Only problem we have with dogs here is the owners not picking up the shit after their dogs, can't really step out into grassy areas without looking.
carry dog treats and throw them as dogs chase you
Keep running, and if they bite/attack you, kick the thing in the fucking face.
I walk my dog, with a leash on, and he's completely mindful of me and fine. The only problem is that all the other idiots in my town can't control their dogs that they have off leash. I've had dogs bolt out of garages and chase me any my dog down 20 houses away.
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img] so much OP.
I have a pug, pugs are either fat and lazy, or eternally a puppy, mine is the puppy kind.
He loves other dogs so when ever he sees one regardless of where he is he always freaks the fuck out and starts barking, I always have to kneel down hold him back.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;31591087]Not letting your dog off the lead will just lead it to becoming frustrated, people need to stop freaking out just because a dog sniffed their foot. Dogs barking and going up to you doesn't mean it thinks you're a human steak, most of the time it's just the dog being excitable and inquisitive and as long as you don't do something to piss it off (like showing aggression towards it) you should be fine, hell even if you do the most it will likely do is give you a warning growl, sure there are some dogs that will try to fuck you up, but they're so rare there's very little chance you'll encounter one.[/QUOTE]
Barking is a little annoying because you have to slow down to stop exciting the dog, but the situations I've described have involved the dog <3m in front of me growling with it's teeth bared looking me straight in the face, lurching forward towards me. I think if I tried to walk away I would have got bitten.
[QUOTE=Ryz0;31591105]Oh my god I can't breath[/QUOTE]
A few people have commented on the stomp and roar thing. The whole point of it is to make yourself look like you'd own the dog(s) if they were to attack. It's like with bears, trying to run will almost always end badly, you're supposed to make yourself look big and make a lot of noise I think.
[QUOTE=Jallen;31599436]A few people have commented on the stomp and roar thing. The whole point of it is to make yourself look like you'd own the dog(s) if they were to attack. It's like with bears, trying to run will almost always end badly, you're supposed to make yourself look big and make a lot of noise I think.[/QUOTE]
Because a dog in the park is just as dangerous as a wild bear. You could just keep running and they'd get bored and leave you alone. Have you tried that?
[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;31600375]Because a dog in the park is just as dangerous as a wild bear. You could just keep running and they'd get bored and leave you alone. Have you tried that?[/QUOTE]
dogs that were not trained properly are dangerous
The problem with my dog is not aggressiveness, but rather overt affection to people. I'm considerate and always keep her on very short leash if we are passing by people on the street since not everyone is comfortable with dogs. However, if someone looks her in the eyes long enough or she sees kids, her tail will start wagging, ears will pull back, and she'll try to pull towards them so she can say hi. This frightens some people who can't read a dog's expressions (although a wagging tail should be pretty obvious) so I usually don't let her near unless they ask me to let them pet her. Kids are even worse, my dog loves children and would love to do nothing more than frolic in a field of grass with a bunch of kids forever. In real life this obviously isn't very likely to happen and thus when parents are walking around with young kids they usually pull the kids behind them and try to shoo my dog away. I don't really see what this is teaching to the children, since I am obviously in control of my dog. Don't approach dogs, ever?
I don't even remember where I'm going with this
[QUOTE=Laferio;31591146]I remember when a family friend took his dog out on a walk. This lady was walking her dog aswell, her dog is a bit smaller, and it just started to go ape-shit. The family friends dog started to growl at it and such. While the lady thought it would be a smart idea to try and smack the pitbull and say "No!.. Bad!" She was bitten, and then she attempted to press charges.
Thats life for yeah.[/QUOTE]
Small dogs in my experience are always the most aggressive
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;31592509]Ill just say it because its the truth. People should not own a dog if they live in the city. Dogs are bred from pack animals that were once used the the freedom that forests and brushland provided them, being crammed into an apartment or a small back yard is not suitable.
I am not exxagerating in the slightest when I say 95 percent of people buy dogs on a whim, and then fail to take care of them properly. At that point the dog really does nothing but be a nuisance to everybody around them. If you are lazy and irresponsible, buy a cat, because they can take care of themselves.[/QUOTE]
Lazy people should not buy dogs and getting a dog on a whim is the worst thing someone could do, true, but it's perfectly possible to own a large dog and live in an apartment in a city. Our dog would probably be categorized as large, but she's perfectly healthy, gets 3 or 4 long walks per day, goes to the dog park which is nearby, and gets to run free in a forest every now and then. Just being in a city is not a reason not to own a large dog if you can just manage taking them for long walks. Besides, if you own a car, it's a good idea to drive a bit further from the city center and let the dog walk on dirt roads instead of asphalt, it'll do good for their legs.
[QUOTE=COBRAa;31592769]He needs to add about 5,000 calories to the treat, that'll teach 'em.
[editline]8th August 2011[/editline]
[IMG]http://www.ilovedogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/FatDog.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I just feel bad for him.
[QUOTE=Darkebrz;31593453]I mean come on, do you really expect the guy or the dogs to take you seriously when you are stomping and roaring at this thing:
[img]http://www.picgifs.com/graphics/j/jack-russel/graphics-jack-russel-798211.jpg[/img]
It's fucking harmless, the worse it could do is lick your leg.[/QUOTE]
Their bite hurts.
[img]http://seanphannigan.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/angryjackpng-300x300.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Chilean_Wolf;31600375]Because a dog in the park is just as dangerous as a wild bear. You could just keep running and they'd get bored and leave you alone. Have you tried that?[/QUOTE]
I never said it was as dangerous as a bear, the point is to scare the dog. Whether it's as dangerous as a bear or not, if it bit me it would still hurt and possibly cause serious damage.
You are obviously ignorant of dog behaviour if you think continuing to run is a good idea when a dog is growling at you.
Every single source I've read on dog aggression states you should ALWAYS stand your ground.
[QUOTE=Jallen;31599436]Barking is a little annoying because you have to slow down to stop exciting the dog, but the situations I've described have involved the dog <3m in front of me growling with it's teeth bared looking me straight in the face, lurching forward towards me. I think if I tried to walk away I would have got bitten.
A few people have commented on the stomp and roar thing. The whole point of it is to make yourself look like you'd own the dog(s) if they were to attack. It's like with bears, trying to run will almost always end badly, you're supposed to make yourself look big and make a lot of noise I think.[/QUOTE]
You wouldn't have gotten bitten, if they where scared of your pathetic stomping and roaring they're probably not going to do anything, just run past them, they'd probably just jump up on you at most and then leave you alone.
[QUOTE=Hana-San;31594449]But licking means he likes you.[/QUOTE]
iirc, licking is also a sign of submission. It's not being aggressive in any way.
It's kind of sad how many people in this thread don't seem to realise that dogs can actually be dangerous. Just because they're (mostly) domesticated, doesn't mean they can't be as dangerous as any other animal their size with four legs and teeth.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;31600807]You wouldn't have gotten bitten, if they where scared of your pathetic stomping and roaring they're probably not going to do anything, just run past them, they'd probably just jump up on you at most and then leave you alone.[/QUOTE]
Firstly, you cannot possibly say I wouldn't have got bitten, you weren't there and even if you were you cannot know for certain. When a dog growls and snaps aggressively towards you, I'd say you can be fairly certain that given the chance they'd take a bite.
Second, I wouldn't call the stomp and roar "pathetic". The whole idea is to make the dog realise you aren't just going to let it happen. Again you weren't there. I'm not 14 or some shit, I'm 20 years old and 6'4". It was effective enough.
If you had seen the dogs, you would realise they weren't just going to jump on me a bit then leave me alone. You are making a lot of assertations about a situation you didn't even witness.
[QUOTE=Chris220;31600884]It's kind of sad how many people in this thread don't seem to realise that dogs can actually be dangerous. Just because they're (mostly) domesticated, doesn't mean they can't be as dangerous as any other animal their size with four legs and teeth.[/QUOTE]
Unless the dog has either been trained to attack people, or his training got seriously fucked up somewhere along the lines in which the dog would probably have been on a muzzle, domesticated dogs are virtually harmless towards humans.
There is o doubt in my mind that there are dangerous dogs out there, but the ones the OP described were not being aggressive and he completely over reacted.
[QUOTE=Chris220;31600884]It's kind of sad how many people in this thread don't seem to realise that dogs can actually be dangerous. Just because they're (mostly) domesticated, doesn't mean they can't be as dangerous as any other animal their size with four legs and teeth.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Even something small can do some nasty damage to your legs.
[editline]8th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;31600913]Unless the dog has either been trained to attack people, or his training got seriously fucked up somewhere along the lines in which the dog would probably have been on a muzzle, domesticated dogs are virtually harmless towards humans.
There is o doubt in my mind that there are dangerous dogs out there, but the ones the OP described were not being aggressive and he completely over reacted.[/QUOTE]
Again making assertations about situations you didn't even witness. Real smart.
Also
[quote]domesticated dogs are virtually harmless towards humans[/quote]
Lmao
[QUOTE=Jallen;31600894]Firstly, you cannot possibly say I wouldn't have got bitten, you weren't there and even if you were you cannot know for certain. When a dog growls and snaps aggressively towards you, I'd say you can be fairly certain that given the chance they'd take a bite.
Second, I wouldn't call the stomp and roar "pathetic". The whole idea is to make the dog realise you aren't just going to let it happen. Again you weren't there. I'm not 14 or some shit, I'm 20 years old and 6'4". It was effective enough.
If you had seen the dogs, you would realise they weren't just going to jump on me a bit then leave me alone. You are making a lot of assertations about a situation you didn't even witness.[/QUOTE]
I can because unless the person owning it was some kind of chav with a Staffordshire terrier, the dogs where probably just being excitable. No seriously aggressive dogs would have been deterred by your little show, especially when they out number you.
[editline]8th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jallen;31600918]Agreed. Even something small can do some nasty damage to your legs.
[editline]8th August 2011[/editline]
Again making assertations about situations you didn't even witness. Real smart.
Also
Lmao[/QUOTE]
Way to cut out the rest of my post.
[QUOTE=Hana-San;31594449]But licking means he likes you.[/QUOTE]
But that's not the point. SteelReal said that he doesn't like if dogs lick him, therefore he doesn't care that it means that the dog likes him.
Not everyone likes dogs, this is not an excuse for licking.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;31600935]I can because unless the person owning it was some kind of chav with a Staffordshire terrier, the dogs where probably just being excitable. No seriously aggressive dogs would have been deterred by your little show, especially when they out number you.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_communication#Aggressive.2F_violent[/url]
[quote]When a dog's lips curl back this shows that the dog has a strong urge to bite.[/quote]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;31600913]... domesticated dogs are virtually harmless towards humans.[/QUOTE]
You'd be surprised at how many aren't trained properly. I've been bitten in the face by a german shepard before, whose owner had let him off the lead in a very public area. These people just have no idea that their dog could do this sort of thing until it happens. And even then they try and shift the blame onto the victim.
I agree that [I]most[/I] domesticated dogs are probably very friendly, but there is still a large percentage which are either trained badly, or simply go by their instincts instead of their training.
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