Guitar Pro 5 songs! - General

You can use the simple verse riff formula before you learn to make better ones. It goes: Power Chord-<2-8 low palm mutes>-Power Chord-<low palm mutes for the rest of the measure>

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;23427580]TuxGuitar doesn't support stereo. :saddowns: And I can't do anything with bass. I don't know why, but I can never make a bassline worth a damn... As for the first part, okay. I personally consider it more Gothic Doom/Death, but whatever. The reason I mentioned prog was because I was listening to a lot of Opeth at the time, and I can hear it. Particularly "Heir Apparent," which is my favorite song off of [I]Watershed[/I]. But, I don't really care either way. I don't even know why I compose these things. It's completely pointless, and I know I suck at it. I should just quit. There's a lot of things I should just quit. Like writing lyrics. They're never going to be used. :frown:[/QUOTE] Don't quit. That won't solve anything and you'll never get any better. Why do you think your lyrics won't ever be used? As for making composing easier, scales and intervals are certainly very helpful :v:. Do you know the names of the notes on a piano/keyboard? I don't what the interface is like for TuxGuitar though. You listen to a lot of melodeath, but have you ever tried composing any? It's much easier to compose songs in genres that you listen to a lot (obviously :v:)

[QUOTE=Z3r0747;23431161]Don't quit. That won't solve anything and you'll never get any better. Why do you think your lyrics won't ever be used? As for making composing easier, scales and intervals are certainly very helpful :v:. Do you know the names of the notes on a piano/keyboard? I don't what the interface is like for TuxGuitar though. You listen to a lot of melodeath, but have you ever tried composing any? It's much easier to compose songs in genres that you listen to a lot (obviously :v:)[/QUOTE] Everything I try to compose I intend to write as melodeath. They end up like the song I posted. My lyrics won't ever be used because I have no musical talent, and I've never heard of bands taking on members simply for lyric-writing. I don't know shit about instrument-specific notes. I took four years of band playing euphonium, so I can read music - but that's it. I never bothered to learn scales because, to be frank, I hated band - I could never play high notes and I got stage fright for solos, being the only euphonium in the school band. TuxGuitar has both a note-name matrix, and a tablature editor. I use the tablature editor.

You should learn to use the note matrix, since that automatically forces your riffs to a scale, unless you use the diminished/augmented notes which you shouldn't yet. I can make nice melodies by just sticking to the scale, it doesn't take much skill.

I don't use a scale. I only use my ear to hear what sounds good :v: [editline]01:17AM[/editline] Heres something I quickly wrote from a little piano-riff I made while improvising with my keyboard: [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Piano.mid[/url] [editline]01:20AM[/editline] Shit, forgot the let-ring effect on the piano: [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Piano1.mid[/url]

[QUOTE=Hakita;23434528]I don't use a scale. I only use my ear to hear what sounds good :v:[/QUOTE] But you're still using a scale even if you think you aren't. I know what you are saying though, you're taking the Marty Friedman approach. But you can still stick to a scale and play what sounds good, just look at the majority of songs and they stick to a scale and song great. [editline]11:12PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Hakita;23434528][editline]01:20AM[/editline] Shit, forgot the let-ring effect on the piano: [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Piano1.mid[/url][/QUOTE] Begging sounds unclear, I know you are sustaining some notes in it, but when the piano first plays I think having the notes not sustaining would make it sound more clear. The instrument that comes in after overpowers the piano a bit much, sound fine a bit later into it, so it's probably just the level jump. The acoustic guitars sounds good with it, and I like it when the drums kick in, I think the progression could be a bit stronger with the resolution because it sounds bad in a few spots, mainly in the begging. It seems to get better with drums and other instruments. I think you should add some length to it and make it into a song, could sound pretty cool.

[QUOTE=Pepin;23436627]Begging sounds unclear, I know you are sustaining some notes in it, but when the piano first plays I think having the notes not sustaining would make it sound more clear. The instrument that comes in after overpowers the piano a bit much, sound fine a bit later into it, so it's probably just the level jump. The acoustic guitars sounds good with it, and I like it when the drums kick in, I think the progression could be a bit stronger with the resolution because it sounds bad in a few spots, mainly in the begging. It seems to get better with drums and other instruments. I think you should add some length to it and make it into a song, could sound pretty cool.[/QUOTE] Well, I'm still pretty new when it comes to instruments other than guitar/bass/drums, but thanks for the tips. I'll try to do a longer song of it.

[QUOTE=Hakita;23434528][editline]01:20AM[/editline] Shit, forgot the let-ring effect on the piano: [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/Piano1.mid[/url][/QUOTE] The strings and guitar sound off key here and there. That I don't like. Cool drums though! Make it a full song.

Gah I want to post some of my work on here, but I'm scared! I don't really know a lot and most of my work is just "guessing" sort of writing.. nor do I know how to put it on here, but I'll give it a shot.. [editline]01:36AM[/editline] You know I write like, generally hardcore metal style :/ [editline]01:34AM[/editline] okay, some bad.. intro thing.. [URL=http://www.zshare.net/audio/7846210289d933a2/]intro one.mid - 0.01MB[/URL] some other bad thing I've found [URL=http://www.zshare.net/audio/784621194433979e/]shit 2.mid - 0.02MB[/URL] something else.. I have no idea which is which now [URL=http://www.zshare.net/audio/784621322243f913/]bad 3.mid - 0.02MB[/URL] same again... [URL=http://www.zshare.net/audio/784621460cc1effb/]nm 4.mid - 0.03MB[/URL] this is the only full "song" I think I'm uploading that I found on this laptop but it's still very, very old.. [URL=http://www.zshare.net/audio/784621632ae14bec/]mumout5.mid - 0.04MB[/URL] and this is just some loop I made messing about I thought it was quite pretty.. [URL=http://www.zshare.net/audio/78462189641386d7/]pretty thing.mid - 0.04MB[/URL] These are all old/unfinished/mess about's that I found on lithifold's computer, I'll upload some finished, fully done ones when I get the internet back at my house. :) [editline]01:43AM[/editline] and the 4th one is bugged. Fml. Ignore the delay :/ there's a lot of rests on the guitar part.

Bad? Have you gotten [I]no[/I] confidence in yourself? #2 was the best song I've heard in this thread. And your work overall suggests that you know what you are doing. Which is good. [I]Really[/I] good. You need to cultivate this. Seriously. Form a band or something.

I actually have never had a lesson, nor know any real theory :/ I just kinda, sit and come out with shit.. this is still very old peices.. minus that "pretty thing" I jotted on lithi's pc in like, 2 minutes to put on a loop for him :) I was thinking about studying music properly..

[QUOTE=Hizzle;23460156]I actually have never had a lesson, nor know any real theory :/ I just kinda, sit and come out with shit.. this is still very old peices.. minus that "pretty thing" I jotted on lithi's pc in like, 2 minutes to put on a loop for him :) I was thinking about studying music properly..[/QUOTE] You should, I've found music theory to be a must for almost every composer. You don't have to guess chords( are they Majors/minors/diminished/augmented ), melodies are easier to make, riffs are easier to make and once you learn to read from notes it gets a lot easier to write too.

yeah :) probably be so much easier then just.. coming out with shit :')

[QUOTE=Hizzle;23460156]I actually have never had a lesson, nor know any real theory :/ I was thinking about studying music properly..[/QUOTE] You don't [I]need[/I] theory. Just keep doing what you're doing and you'll become very good at this. Composing requires, like anything else, alot of practice. I don't know shit about theory myself. And to be honest, I think it will just limit one's composing abilities.

I feel I should upload some of my latest stuff when I get the internet back at my house. All these are just unfinished or old pieces.

Something I cranked out last night. Experimented some with Slap Bass 1. It's supposed to have a sort of space- and time feeling. [B]"v → c"[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsd7zcnlDlk[/media]

You're so good. :( *jealous*

Will post mine when i get to my home computer.

[QUOTE=Rad McCool;23465864]You don't [I]need[/I] theory. Just keep doing what you're doing and you'll become very good at this. Composing requires, like anything else, alot of practice. I don't know shit about theory myself. And to be honest, I think it will just limit one's composing abilities.[/QUOTE] Theory is just there to help you, not limit you to a one scale or structure. It makes the process easier. If you look at Igor Stravinsky for example, he knew almost everything about musical theory and did it limit him? No, he created revolutionizing pieces that were something completely new back then.

[QUOTE=whitespace;23467461]Theory is just there to help you, not limit you to a one scale or structure. It makes the process easier.[/QUOTE] I'm thinking of a friend of mine who says he feels somewhat limited when writing music, just because he has studied so much theory. I think that is more relevant than bringing up examples like Stravinsky. :v: But whatever, I just said it's not something one might need. Atleast not Hizzle. He has already proved that he can write stuff that makes sense, so I think he will achieve more by just keep writing material rather than reading books about it.

Ah, what to do :<

I don't know why so many people say not to learn music theory. I really think that people who resist from learning music theory are more limited. Music theory for me allows me to find explanations as to why something sounds good, and allows me to analyze music a lot more and also come up with ideas. For example, if the rhythm plays E minor 9 and the bass plays the second step of the scale (F#), what is that going to sound like. Well it's probably going to have some tension because the G and the F# are going to create some dissonance, but this tension could easily be resolved by play a G major since the F# is a leading tone.

[QUOTE=Pepin;23473280]For example, if the rhythm plays E minor 9 and the bass plays the second step of the scale (F#), what is that going to sound like. Well it's probably going to have some tension because the G and the F# are going to create some dissonance, but this tension could easily be resolved by play a G major since the F# is a leading tone.[/QUOTE] And you can do the exact same thing by just listening. !

Hizzle, you aren't bad at all at composing. Stop saying you suck. :v: Also, music theory is supposed to be helpful, not hindering. If someone feels limited because they crammed their heads with theory, then that's their own fault because they aren't supposed to completely [i]rely[/i] on theory for writing songs.

[QUOTE=Rad McCool;23474266]And you can do the exact same thing by just listening. ![/QUOTE] But the point wasn't that, it was that you don't have to listen to know what it will sound like, thus speeding the process.

[QUOTE=Rad McCool;23466369]Something I cranked out last night. Experimented some with Slap Bass 1. It's supposed to have a sort of space- and time feeling. [B]"v → c"[/B] [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/#"]View YouTUBE video[/URL] [URL]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qsd7zcnlDlk[/URL] [/QUOTE] That was really good.

I'm not a good composer at all. I just guess and do it for entertainment if anything..

[QUOTE=Hizzle;23480551]I'm not a good composer at all. I just guess and do it for entertainment if anything..[/QUOTE] Now how will you ever achieve anything in life with an attitude like that?

[QUOTE=Rad McCool;23483301]Now how will you ever achieve anything in life with an attitude like that?[/QUOTE] Chicks dig emos. Atleast some do.

Heres a short one i recently wrote [url]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/722845/kfcniggabeatdown.mid[/url] If you'd like to here the recorded version its here: [url]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/722845/kfcniggabeatdown.mp3[/url] I've been meaning to add some more to it but I haven't had the time.