• HP Lovecraft isn't all that good
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In all my darkest dreams I could not have conjured such a horror as I had witnessed I the OP. Merely thinking of such queer nightmares is sufficient cause for madness.
All his stories just use a asston of big words. Nothing more.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;19883851]All his stories just use a asston of big words. Nothing more.[/QUOTE] No, nothing more. I mean, tons of books and movies feed off of his ideas and imaginitive style, but in the end it's all just big words. You sir are talking out of your ass. Have you even read any Lovecraft?
I can understand why some people don't like Lovecraft, his style of writing appeals to a certain people, you have to want to read it, to get sucked in, to really like the book. There's fear of the Unknown and fear of the material, fear of being chased down a dark alley by a rapist is Material, Lovecraft writes about a fear of the Unknown. If you don't like it, you can't be forced to like it. But be honest, how many Anti-lovecrafts have read a novel that culminates in a showdown with a gigantic, invisible, tentacled egg ontop of a hill? :tinfoil:
Step 1) Click 'Disagree.' Step 2) Read post.
All his stories are usually really boring. They could be alot more suspenseful, but they just end up...not.
Can anyone explain why Lovecraft seems so mature and smarter than most people in his time, but very racist? I don't understand, I would've never expected racism from him.
I'm going to be honest. I have no idea who HP Lovecraft is. Shoot me.
[QUOTE=Pascall;19892523]I'm going to be honest. I have no idea who HP Lovecraft is. Shoot me.[/QUOTE] *Shooting* Cthulhu? Shadow over Innsmouth? The Colours of Space? Dunwich Horror? Dagon? :argh:
[QUOTE=DeadorK;19892438]All his stories are usually really boring. They could be alot more suspenseful, but they just end up...not.[/QUOTE] All your posts are usually really boring. They could be alot more interesting and meaningful, but they just end up...not.
Fuck your opinion OP!
[QUOTE=cyclocius;19896348]*Shooting* Cthulhu? Shadow over Innsmouth? The Colours of Space? Dunwich Horror? Dagon? :argh:[/QUOTE] If those are books, no I have not heard of or read any of them. :<
Play Call of Cthulhu.
sure is limit creativity preach relativism in here
He's also ugly as a motherfucker
Cthulhu fhtagn.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17064542]bitch let's go[/QUOTE] I fell out of my seat laughing, because knowing you, I knew that you would say that. Classic JohnnyMo! *dying laughing*
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;17065510]That is neither scary, nor does it make for an interesting book. "June 19th 1937: Holy shit a rapist is chasing me, OH FUCK THERE HE IS. June 20th 1937: Holy shit I got raped yesterday"[/QUOTE] June 19th is my birthday. :q:
[QUOTE=kidwithsword;19898843]Play Call of Cthulhu.[/QUOTE] That's an awesome game. I still play it on Gamecube.
LoOK BRO YOU CANT FLAME HP LOVECRAFT BECAUSE ITS A QUESTION OF DEFINITION AND MAKING A RANT IS WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL INFLUENTIAL MEDIA. LET PEOPLE READ IT AND COMMENT ON IT THEMSELVES. I'm sorry. [B]Also add this to OP for those who hasn't read any HP Lovecraft books: [/B][URL]http://manybooks.net/authors/lovecrafth.html[/URL] [B]There are no rights on his books, so they're now free. Download 'em why don't you![/B] Interesting notes: Mr.Lovecraft got inspiration from his nightmares. He looks like a horse in some angles. [QUOTE=Scope0;18736202]This thread has almost convinced me to purchase one of his books. What one do you think is the best?[/QUOTE] Why buy it? Download it!: [URL]http://manybooks.net/authors/lovecrafth.html[/URL] [URL]http://manybooks.net/authors/lovecrafth.html[/URL] [URL]http://manybooks.net/authors/lovecrafth.html[/URL] [URL]http://manybooks.net/authors/lovecrafth.html[/URL]
I think people like the mystery of the monsters, it allows them to imagine it for themselves.
[QUOTE=NickFury666;19970678]I think people like the mystery of the monsters, it allows them to imagine it for themselves.[/QUOTE] Or the greatness of a God older than the universe. Can you define a power greater than all inertia in the universe combined?
This thread is dumb, IE; OP doesn't know what he's talking about.
Time for me to throw my hat in to the ring. [QUOTE=Negrul1;17064538] [B]Plots:[/B] Although there are some exceptions, most of the stories are "I am a guy with a mysterious family history. One time I want to some creepy place and a saw some monster and then I woke up and it was all a dream, except I found some clue to say it wasn't, and it all ties in with my mysterious family history. Also I may or may not be insane". As I said earlier, there are ones that don't follow that, but about half of the ones I have read do, and even the ones that are differant aren't particularly good. See: [URL]http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rats_in_the_Walls[/URL] [URL]http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Tomb[/URL] [/quote] Shadow Over Innsmouth At the Mountains of Madness The Music of Erich Zann The Color Out of Space Call of Cthulhu Reanimator The Shunned House Making a generalized statement about an author with as many works as H.P. Lovecraft is ridiculous. Yes, his works often revolve around the discovery of something horrific, but all authors have some kind of niche that they confine themselves to. Such is the same for him. [quote] [B]Monsters:[/B] Some of the monster ideas are quite good; that invisible egg shaped tentacle monster was certainly inventive, but most of them aren't really that incredible. I mean, Cthulhu is a scaly giant with wings and a squid on his head. What's so incredible about that? Also, half the time he doesn't even bother to describe the creatures at all. It's all either "if I told you, you'd go insane" or "I caught a glimpse of something and then I fainted." or even, in one instance something that pretty much went "It was kind of winged thing, but it wasn't like a bird or a bat or a lizard". Yeah, I can just picture it; the imagery is so vivid. From The Outsider. Yes, you used a lot of words, but none of them really tell you what it actually looks like. [/quote] When you fully describe something down to the last, finite detail, you lose the biggest piece of what makes something horrifying: Mystery. What is more terrifying? The monster that stalks you in clear view? Or is it the formless shadow that flits out of view whenever you turn your gaze? The thing that is rarely seen, but often heard. That is what he is trying to do. Human minds often suppress things that terrify them, so it's not entirely surprising that a lot of his characters are unable to fully account the details of what they encounter. It leaves in that mystery, that fear of things incomprehensibly greater than ourselves, and the fear that they may be lurking in every shadow. This isn't "RAH I'M A MONSTER" horror. It is psychological horror. The horror that twists your perception of reality and toys with your notions of what is truth and fallacy. [quote] [B]Writing Style:[/B] I don't know if it's just the time it was written or what, but he is incredibly verbose. I know some people are going to jump on me with "itz just coz u wont read anyfing wiv atmosfere and description cause u is stoopid an 6 yaers old", but I don't want to read a horror short story where the first 5 pages are descriptions of a boring trip to Egypt (see Imprisoned With The Pharaohs). It would be OK if he was actually particularly good at writing descriptions of things, but he's not; they aren't poetic or awe inspiring, just dull. [/QUOTE] I actually really enjoy H.P. Lovecraft's style. It gives in-depth description without berating you with tiny details. By using multiple, general terms, he strengthens the description of something. He shows just how unspeakably horrible something is by using a series of general terminology that most people would use. If you saw a monster, would you stand there and relate all of the small details to yourself? Or would it be more along the lines of "Shitshitshit that thing is gross, scary, disturbing and all sorts of horrible!" It's essentially the same thing, but with bigger words. These are things that are supposedly so horrible that they defy detailed description. The only exception is the incredibly detailed descriptions of the Old Ones in "At the Mountains of Madness". Again, it is all about mystery. Lovecraft defies you to conjure something in your head as horrible as his descriptions relay them to be. It brings it to a personal level. It says "here is something incredibly malevolent" then brings it home with "oh shit! It could be anywhere!" Then again, opinions are opinions. This is just how I see it.
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