[QUOTE=IdiotStorm;28114085]oh god he looks just like a chick I know :ohdear:[/QUOTE]
He looks like a teacher of mine.
Exactly.alike.
[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;28114116]What the hell possesses somebody to do this to themselves[/QUOTE]
The fuck would you do if you'd have tits and a cunt, but were into women and wanted to fuck, not get fucked, hated dresses, doing makeup, periods, romantic bullshit etc, and instead liked video games, beer, porn etc? Would you really go "I feel like a man, I wish a was a man, but oh well, everyone expects me to behave like a girl so I guess I'll just do it and feel unhappy for the rest of my life"?
[QUOTE=Pavarotti;28116233]I think "supposed to" is just a weird way to say it. It implies to me that there's some plan for how someone "should" be born. I know it's not what you mean but it just sounds like there's some intent from a higher power before they're born.
I can see what you mean but the way things can be worded annoy me a bit sometimes.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, sorry, I AM terrible at wording myself from time to time...
Question: He still sounds like a man, right?
[QUOTE=MenteR;28116274]i'm not interested in disrespecting anyone. i'm just saying he's still a man, that's it. as i said you can call him anything you want.
i already get what you're saying, and i completely agree with it, but it won't change the fact that he's a man, and that's a completely true fact. btw i wasn't even talking to you in the first place. why are you arguing with that?
[editline]17th February 2011[/editline]
for example if i ever saw that person in the street i would call him a she eventhough he isn't a female.
why am i retarded, mikey. i'm agreeing with you all, why don't you read the posts properly before you say someone's retarded.
and gender definition means everything, he would still be called a male in case of an accident (car crashes, blood loss: quantities of medication vary between genders) and on his identity documents.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, I agree with everything you said here.
[QUOTE=FPKawaii;28116516]Question: He still sounds like a man, right?[/QUOTE]
probably not.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;28116428]The fuck would you do if you'd have tits and a cunt, but were into women and wanted to fuck, not get fucked, hated dresses, doing makeup, periods, romantic bullshit etc, and instead liked video games, beer, porn etc? Would you really go "I feel like a man, I wish a was a man, but oh well, everyone expects me to behave like a girl so I guess I'll just do it and feel unhappy for the rest of my life"?[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;28116428]The fuck would you do if you'd have tits and a cunt, but were into women and wanted to fuck, not get fucked, hated dresses, doing makeup, periods, romantic bullshit etc, and instead liked video games, beer, porn etc? Would you really go "I feel like a man, I wish a was a man, but oh well, everyone expects me to behave like a girl so I guess I'll just do it and feel unhappy for the rest of my life"?[/QUOTE]
A bit vulgar, but wonderful way to describe how that feels.
:golfclap:
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;28116428]The fuck would you do if you'd have tits and a cunt, but were into women and wanted to fuck, not get fucked, hated dresses, doing makeup, periods, romantic bullshit etc, and instead liked video games, beer, porn etc? Would you really go "I feel like a man, I wish a was a man, but oh well, everyone expects me to behave like a girl so I guess I'll just do it and feel unhappy for the rest of my life"?[/QUOTE]
Jumping on the bandwagon, because you're fucking right. Pretending to be something you aren't is just a pain
[QUOTE=Zondac;28116630]Jumping on the bandwagon, because you're fucking right. Pretending to be something you aren't is just a pain[/QUOTE]
It's more than a pain.
Whoa, that is freaaaky
:fappery:
In one shot it'll look like a girl.
And then the next shows up and it looks like a dude.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;28116663]It's more than a pain.[/QUOTE]
As I've said, I'm horrible at wording myself.
But I still like you a lot
[QUOTE=TheStateTrooper;28116681]In one shot it'll look like a girl.
And then the next shows up and it looks like a dude.[/QUOTE]
Well she wasn't out about it until near the end of the video so she still looked like a guy even with the hormones until she came out.
it was the marijuana
Why the shirtless pictures at the start with none at the end?
[i]She's[/i] hot.
As defined by Princeton:
[quote]
Noun
* S: (n) male (an animal that produces gametes (spermatozoa) that can fertilize female gametes (ova))
* S: (n) male, male person (a person who belongs to the sex that cannot have babies) [/quote]
This is in fact a male.
[QUOTE=CaptainQuirk;28117001]As defined by Princeton:
This is in fact a male.[/QUOTE]
Piss off with your technicalities.
[QUOTE=CaptainQuirk;28117001]As defined by Princeton:
This is in fact a male.[/QUOTE]
most of the thread doesn't understand this concept. again: gender definition means everything, he would still be called a male in case of an accident (car crashes, blood loss: quantities of medication vary between genders, even if he has taken hormones) and on his identity documents.
[editline]17th February 2011[/editline]
the real world doesn't piss off with technicalities, "her" friends may, but hospitals won't if he ever gets ran over or shot.
again a dumbshit rates me dumb for saying something completely right. that's just ignorant.
I [i]wonder[/i]... how many times can you go back and forth?
People always amuse me with the crazy shit they do.
He is quite an eccentric fellow in the video for trying to turn himself into a female.
God, now I have to be worried. Used to I wouldn't have to worry about "Oh god, I wonder if it has ever been a male?"
Yes, I do refer to these kinds of people as "it."
I mind completely skipped over the ethics of this and went to the psychology of it. Skipping back and forth from before and after, the facial features don't seem very different, but the former is CLEARLY a man and the latter is CLEARLY a woman (except for the beefy arms). Is it more the hair style, makeup, and outfit that make someone look their gender? Is that how precarious our gender appearance is? Can't be. There have to be subtle facial feature changes that we pick up on that make someone look their gender, but what are they?
[QUOTE=splitsticks;28117386]I mind completely skipped over the ethics of this and went to the psychology of it. Skipping back and forth from before and after, the facial features don't seem very different, but the former is CLEARLY a man and the latter is CLEARLY a woman (except for the beefy arms). Is it more the hair style, makeup, and outfit that make someone look their gender? Is that how precarious our gender appearance is? Can't be. There have to be subtle facial feature changes that we pick up on that make someone look their gender, but what are they?[/QUOTE]
Lack of beard for starters, the long and clearly worked on hair... let's not forget the make-up that brings attention to the eyes which is often a place where men remember a woman by most(that and their tits). Oh and all the jewelry and the clothes.
[b]Edit:[/b] Oh and also the trimmed eyebrows.
To be honest I'd say the two biggest differences are the very well applied makeup and slightly larger collar on the shirts.
It's a bit hard to tell since the video isn't exactly the highest quality but the underlying facial structure still is somewhat masculine - of course there's a really big load of women with a similar one.
That said the makeup really changed that.
Still pretty amazing what hormones can do to a person. I'd personally love to see a silhouette before and after to compare. Just how big a change is in that.
It could just be me but it seems most of the change was him/her shaving, putting on make-up and doing their hair.
[QUOTE=mbutler2;28117346]God, now I have to be worried. Used to I wouldn't have to worry about "Oh god, I wonder if it has ever been a male?"
Yes, I do refer to these kinds of people as "it."[/QUOTE]
Hello there I see you're incredibly insecure about your sexuality. Have you ever considered joining the evangelical church?
the hair made more of a difference than i though
but that is some freaky stuff right there
i wonder how much it costed her
i don't understand why someone would do this
you can "play woman" all you want but the most important parts of a womans life you'll probably never have. if im not mistaken changes like this are only skin deep, so forever a man you'll be on the inside.
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